pittrek

Netherhero said:

pittrek said:
Sorry, but no. There have been hundreds of changes done between the originals and the 97 SEs.
The 2004 DVD is basically the 97SE with corrected colours

That’s just not true. The only people who ever say that are people who swear by the original cuts and don’t watch the special editions. I saw the faces release first, that was my intro to star wars when I was a kid, then I watched the special edition growing up, and then I had the DVDs when I was a teenager. Those are just what I had available because they didn’t rerelease the originals. The DVD version is completely different because the changes you describe warp the foundation the films. Adding a cgi dewback is just not the same as adding a Hayden Christensen.

That doesn’t change the fact that they have done hundreds (OK, maybe not literally hundreds, I didn’t count them) changes between the original version and the 1997 SE : https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMh7UH0DbCPGxQyEOdmfmYiFnh3lgoBNNLCPnHTQnvyCtXQnScSo8L_vR3x6A9y_Q?key=aDFfLXE3clp4SldVcndkalc3UjJ4UlU2ZUlDb0JB

The Carrie Fisher tribute video had tons of previously unreleased clips. Can that be a sign of … something?

Netherhero said:

Star Wars is great. The Originals and The 97SEs are fundamentally the same for the most part, but since the DVD release they seem to have changed the way the films actually feel.

Sorry, but no. There have been hundreds of changes done between the originals and the 97 SEs.
The 2004 DVD is basically the 97SE with corrected colours, worse sound mix, new scenes (like “Wesa free” in ROTJ), and re-done effects (new Jabba in E4, new Coruscant in E6). The 2011 Blu-ray is the 2004 master with some minor changes (like the new door to Jabba’s palace) and correction of some lightsabre shots (only the shots which we complained about, and nothing else).

Was there any official confirmation if we get season 4 / how many more seasons will we get?

2.5 years too late?

I’ve finally seen the rest of Iron Fist. I honestly don’t understand the criticism. My current list in order of preference of all MCU shows would be

1. Daredevil
2. Jessica Jones
3. Agent Carter
4. Iron Fist
5. Agents of SHIELD
6. Luke Cage

Speaking about buying/selling bootlegs or other unofficial material is a good way how to get banned on this forum. There are 3 “official” versions of Harmy’s editions, a mkv file, an AVCHD and a DVD-9 (just movie I think). All of them are usually available at the same places, just read the thread Bluto linked and also “The Ultimate Introductory Guide” ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yLsvexWBVM8IYSGopKuSfsGk5YIgCwQWd23bqb5ryD4/pub ).
The extras as far as I know are available only on BD, most of the people here don’t use DVDs anymore, sorry.

Squirrel girl? Well that sounds like some weird porn and not a superhero. Does it take place in the MCU or is it unrelated?

I love the colours, not sure about the contrast

Oh boy, it will be fun to read all the Michael-related comments

We’ll get a special release of the theatrical original trilogy on glorious VHS!

Nick Meyer’s dog tweeted the word “August” before the tweet got removed

SwissArmyTin said:

Fang Zei said:

Search for Spock might be the first movie (in general I mean, not just Trek) that I can clearly remember watching. It was 1990 and I would have been five years old, was at West Coast Video with my mom and she must have randomly picked it off the shelf to rent.

Watched it, loved it, was hooked from there on out. Rented the other movies, even rented Encounter at Farpoint and the uncut The Cage that goes black-and-white during certain scenes. TNG became appointment television every week. Saw TUC in the theater and was blown away. Didn’t even get into Star Wars until around '92 or so, but I knew of them as Bart would say.

What I remember finding out very early on was that ILM worked not only on Star Wars but also several of the Trek films. It felt very cool to realize these two franchises shared that connection.

Oh, and thank you for bringing up Oberth class, SwissArmyTin. I was going crazy back in September trying to remember the name of it without looking it up first.

I live and breathe the Tech Manuals. Ship classes, designs, and layouts are one of my favorite parts of Trek to be honest.

Oh, speaking of that black-and-white version of The Cage, I don’t own the Bluray or DVD of TOS, just a handful of the 80s-run VHS tapes, including that version of The Cage. It has a really neat featurette at the beginning with Roddenberry himself walking along the dimly-lit sets of the Enterprise (circa III). It ended with him in Engineering, which I believe was the last time that set was filmed on before meddling by the TNG crew. Total shame, as that configuration of the set has always been my favorite.

The funny thing is that the version is actually a DIFFERENT cut than the other releases.
The Cage has way too many versions :

1. 35mm version - never “leaked” so we have no clue what it was
2. 16mm version - much longer than any officially released version, different sound mix containing alternate/missing music cues
3. The Menagerie - the 2 part story features many bits from The Cage, including a couple of shots which were not used in any other “restoration” of The Cage
4. 1986 hybrid version - this is the version which has the Roddenberry intro and is partially black & white, this version unfortunately contains many video/audio changes done specifically for the Menagerie, it’s shorter than the 16mm version but still longer than any later releases. The most notable cut is during Vina’s speech when she explains why she is obeying the Talosians, and a cut during the final confrontation between the Magistrate and Pike. Also the Talosians speak with high pitched voiced during the colour parts and with low pitched voice during the black and white parts, they spoke with low pitched voiced all the time in the 16mm version.
5. 1988 full color restoration - Bob Furmanek found the colour trims and sold them to Roddenberry, so this version took as its base the 1986 version, the audio is taken directly from the 1986 version (with some brutal hiss reduction done for the parts coming from the black and white print), but the video is a mess. They probably didn’t find all the trims, because way too many times they cut do a reused shot or slow down a shot (sometimes drastically) so that it matches the audio. This version was part of the TV special “The Star Trek Saga : From One Generation To the Next” and apparently also released on a Japan-only laserdisc.
6. 2001 DVD restoration - some of the original music was restored (meaning some of the changes done for both The Menagerie and the 1986 version are undone), however this version is again shorter. Many shots were trimmed and we lost the “wild little animal” monologue. Also some shots are different. At least the original speed was restored on the previously slowed down shots, and if I remember correctly again some shots were replaced by other shots. Also all of the Talosian voices were pitch corrected to sound more female.
7. 2008 Blu-ray “original” version - some shots are trimmed even more, making this version again slightly shorter than the previous one, if I remember correctly some shots are again replaced
8. 2008 Blu-ray “enhanced” version - the same as version 7, but all the effects are now CGI

Fang Zei said:

pittrek said:

Fang Zei said:

Handman said:

The old Blu-ray was very blue, they corrected it somewhat. Plus, it was the safest option for the 50th, seeing as how it’s the most beloved film of the series.

The old blu-ray also shows some of the same contrast-boosting issues as the other five. I remember seeing a screenshot comparison of the shot where the Reliant and Enterprise first approach each other and the 2016 re-restoration is much more natural looking. The first six were released all at once back in '09, which probably means the same person/people were responsible for the final tweaks on all of them before the discs were pressed. There’s even a bit of dnr on that first WoK bd, it’s just nowhere near as bad as on the others thanks to the restoration.

Sorry for my voice / accent : https://youtu.be/vPfiYtBo0Wk?t=7m19s

Thank you for sharing, I subscribed as well!

Did the 2002 dvd recieve a different color-timing from the original dvd release a couple years earlier? I seem to recall reading a review that mentioned it. It would be interesting to see that initial dvd compared against the 2016 release as well.

Thanks guys 😃 I unfortunately don’t have that DVD (yet). Are you talking about this DVD ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Trek-2-The-Wrath-Of-Khan-DVD-William-Shatner-Leonard-Nimoy-DeForest-Kel-/381512058926?hash=item58d3e4082e:g:51gAAOSwjVVVkUyN It claims to be from 2000…

That Klingon ship looks like complete shit.

Fang Zei said:

Handman said:

The old Blu-ray was very blue, they corrected it somewhat. Plus, it was the safest option for the 50th, seeing as how it’s the most beloved film of the series.

The old blu-ray also shows some of the same contrast-boosting issues as the other five. I remember seeing a screenshot comparison of the shot where the Reliant and Enterprise first approach each other and the 2016 re-restoration is much more natural looking. The first six were released all at once back in '09, which probably means the same person/people were responsible for the final tweaks on all of them before the discs were pressed. There’s even a bit of dnr on that first WoK bd, it’s just nowhere near as bad as on the others thanks to the restoration.

Sorry for my voice / accent : https://youtu.be/vPfiYtBo0Wk?t=7m19s

God the colours are beautiful. I know I’m a minority, but I love the greenish DS walls and the yellow desert scenes

Never heard about it. Can’t even google it.

Well, that was pretty boring. Seriously, am I too old for this, or not enough nerdy? I don’t think I truly enjoyed an episode of season 3, even though season 1 was OK and season 2 had a couple of interesting episodes.

I start to see why you have been banned…

My obvious question which I unfortunately repeat every couple of months - any progress, guys?

I’m watching Iron Fist. Why do the critics seem to hate it? Even on rottentomatoes it has 17% (WTF?) and Luke Cage, one of the dumbest things I have seen in many years has 96%??? Seriously what’s wrong with these people? Luke Cage was boring, I had to force myself to finish it, I have seen only 3 episodes of Iron Fist so far, but I love it.

To be honest I thought he died decades ago. But Rest In Peace sir

Yeah, the 480i CGI would probably not look very good upscaled to 1080p

Why so much hatred for The Motionless Picture? It’s one of the best ST movies. To me