pat man

You_Too said:

TServo2049 said:

I'm absolutely not faulting you, Y_T - the red information in the transfer is just that screwed up.

No, of course I understand you're not! It sure is screwed up.

frank678 said:

Can someone help me with my knowledge on this - how much of the blu-ray redness is red damage/red shift now in the original damaged negative and how much is redness boosted in the color correction moves done by Lucasfilm.

It is all by Lucasfilm. They call it "George's vision".

Check this, a 70mm frame:

And the same from the blu-ray:

Now let's compare the part at the upper left:

In the original it can clearly be seen that there's no red clipping. You can see that the red light shines through some glass/plastic which has it's own reflection. In the blu-ray the red light shines stronger than the reflection on the outside of it.

EDIT:

Thought about another thing that shows it even more.

Harmy posted this re-timed 70mm frame in the color timing thread, which should look like the original technicolor version:

Here's the same from the blu-ray:

  THE blu-ray has DNR and over saturation.

Thanks for the update Yoo_Too

I also like How Luke's Lightsaber is the same color.And not shifting from blue to green to blue-green.

^You-Too those pictures are great.My Monitor could be calibrated wrong,but can you please add a little red to the skin tones. Everything else is fine in those pictures.Plus I love the gold on C-3PO.  

EDIT: New screenshots! These shots represent the latest avisynth settings which you can find in post 3. They are the exact same shots as the ones in the screenshot thread. They were rendered using the built in imagewriter plugin in avisynth.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.232291520119771.79026.223279371020986&type=1

New pics of behind the scenes. 

 Adywan has used vimeo once.this is the clip. http://vimeo.com/35673497 no joke.This is a clip from a few month ago.

Bingowings said:

Was it this one?

   lol, funny

doubleofive said:

NEWS FROM ADY: Recently he attempted to upload another video, this time using a 25 second leader as he used on his last YouTube vid (which worked) but FB denied this one as they have his past ones and gave his account a temp ban....so he'll be absent for a little bit due to that. On the up side however, he has re-rendered all the files damaged in the Great "April Fools" Hard-Drive Crash of 2012....so NOTHING has been lost.

   Thanks for the Update.

AuggieBenDoggie said:

Lol, I hope that Wampug doesn't find it's way into a future starwars video game, or worse yet, find it's way into a future OT release.

   I hope the Wampug does go into any Future releases either. would be fun for an Ester EGG. sorry for the misspell.

Bobocop said:

This just in: Adywan's new Wampa finally revealed!

http://imgur.com/gallery/VBwQD

   Lol,Funny.

adywan said:

The completed Hoth Shield Generator model. Just need to add the snow and its ready for filming (just click on image to see full size)

  WOW, that is very cool.

OK so it has been a week since April 1ST, so now it is safe to say that it was not an April fools trick. Hope you get all the files off your hard-drive, of your computer. As Han said,"Good luck!...your going to need it."

Loconut said:

Donations have been overwhelming. Check out the latest clip from Adywan here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RSu3qz5SmPU

 

The somewhat long intro is required so that YouTube bots don't immediately block it due to copyrights. The clip itself starts at 0:20. Enjoy!

  Love the new clip never notice all those mistakes. Very nice. I think this has been said before, they need to have you at ILM or LF.

doubleofive said:

NEWS:

The Final Push!

  I wish i can help, but I am only 15, and my parents don't really care for star wars, I can help with the other revisited movies in the near future. Like the    midway point of Return of the Jedi. You and your team who has worked on these movies are awesome. Thank you.      

Adywan, you don't have to make a wampa preview clip.I just said,"if you can?",that's all.

Hey Adywan,if you can, please have a 2 to 3 min clip of the new Wampa. Can you start it at the part where Luke says " Hey...smell something?" Than cut the part out with Han,and cut to the part with Luke hanging upside down,in the cave. Than finish it with Luke running out of the cave.Can you post it on Vimeo please. Thank you.              

adywan said:

TMBTM said:

While I think it's good when continuity errors are fixed I really don't think this shirt thing worths buidling a whole new life size Han in carbonite (!) Unless Adywan plans to use it for some other totaly new shots.

The shirts is something that has bothered myself and many other for years. Building a replica is the only way of fixing it really. Building just the shirt could create all sorts of problems trying to match the lighting, steam etc. Plus its something i would need to use again for ROTJ:R. But i'm only building the front face and NOT the whole unit.

ctlw83 said:

Hey, for those who are "in the know" so to speak, I'm just curious about something.  In the ESB revisit, how many effect shots have been re-done/enhanced with new models, new people, etc?  Basically, how much "new" footage has been needed to correct the mistakes of old and/or to enhance existing scenes?

Personally, I have always been interested in videography but, just don't have much time/money to pursue it anymore.

I would hate to start counting them just yet, but you will be able to see just how many have been replaced with the visual changes guide that will be on the blu-ray and DVD

nightstalkerpoet said:

It's funny, because I have agreed with and been amazed by just about everything Ady has thrown our way...

My one disagreement is putting ANH:R HD out before his PT:R. My kids are 1 and 2. I was hoping he'd fix the prequels before they ever had to see them :P And it's amazing what a good upconverting player can do to ANH:R.

There is plenty of ESB:R love... they're just hitting the final shots and stages, so it seems there is a little less new info rolling in.

There will be a lot of preparation needed before beginning the PT as i will be doing all 3 together. Now, while the preperation is being done, i can work on the HD version of ANH. So, even if i did leave ANH:R HD until after the prequels, you wouldn't be getting any of the PT any quicker.

Dark_Lord_of_the_Pith said:

Sharpen your pitchforks.

I was watching Episode II yesterday (yeah, on purpose!) and I noticed a small detail that I'd not seen before so I skimmed through the OT and found that it didn't occur anywhere but it's a detail I think might improve the visuals. Let me explain what I'm on about...

In the scene where Slave One pursues Obi Wan through the asteroids pay close attention to the cockpit window and you will see subtle reflections of the control panel lights in the glass. It's a small detail but I think it looks ever so slightly more "realistic" than the shots from that same ship's cockpit in Episode V. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I probably am) but in a lot of the behind the scenes footage I've seen from the OT inside the Falcon, the Snow Speeders, Slave One et al cockpits there wasn't any glass built in, only the frame with the blue/green screen behind so there would have been no naturally occuring reflections. Compare the scene in Episode II with Boba following the Falcon from the garbage dump in V and hopefully you'll see what I mean. I think the addition of subtle reflections (something akin to ANHR's holo-chess table's reflections) or perhaps some grime along the window edges would bring the visuals together and make them look a little less "one stuck over another".

I know it would be a stupendous amount of work to put reflections in every window shot (or even to work out if they should be there at all) and I'm not sure your average sane person would even notice if they were there or not but I just thought I'd run it up your flagpole, see if any of you salute it.

The Slave 1 cockpit in the OT is a lot different than the one we see in ESB. For one, the displays are a lot different and brighter. And the cockpit is also a lot brighter in the PT too. this would account for the reflections showing in the PT, whereas the darkness of the cockpit in ESB may not show any reflections. (Well thats my excuse anyway. lol)

Kurgan said:

So people without a blu-ray *burner* or an Xbox 360 will still be able to watch this?

I've added the new fuller change list to the first post and this includes a list of which versions will be available.

thorr said:

Just watched clip 2.rar and it looks great!  One minor observance: In the wide shot where Vader is looking out the windows, the Star Destroyer only appears in one window, but shouldn't the back of it be in the next window over similar to how it is in the blu-ray version above it?  It is hard to tell if it should be there because it might be right on the edge of needing to be there.

I think it would probably be just out of view

ImperialFighter said:

Monroville said:

 

video posted February 5, 2012:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0Z1dsAerm0

Notice that the TIEs are not just blue but are the same exact color as the 2004 dvd ... thus the issue is still relevant.

At the risk of keeping this one going even longer, lol...only *some* of adywan's TIEs seem to be the same exact colour of the blu-ray shots seen in the latest preview.

But as I mentioned in my 2nd post on the previous page, there seems to be a noticeably 'greyer' colouration to the 'Revisited' ones seen during the comparison shot of the close-up of the Executor's underbelly, compared to some of his other shots...so I'm not sure if that's meant to look like that, or not.

Stick that Youtube comparison clip on full-screen at it's highest quality to see what I mean.  Pause it if you have to, for a clearer look.

All the TIEs have been tinted with the same settings. the shade would vary depending on the lightings, which is why they may look slightly different . But never trust the colour of Youtube. Here are a few comparisons between the blu-ray and Revisited TIEs. You can see that the revisited TIEs aren't the same blue as the blu-ray versions

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/108834

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/108835

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/108836

This is the colour i will be sticking with for the TIEs

If you want to see the colour of one of the original TIEs used in ANH then you can see it here:

http://www.geekologie.com/2008/07/tie-fighter-model-used-in-star.php

vbangle said:

To me Yoda should look less blue-green. But let me make this perfectly clear. This only my opinion. I know and accept that my opinon has no bearing on ADYWAN"S edit. But I am free to voice my opinion here, am I not?

Just taking a quick look out in Google Land here are a few pics that look more like I remember Yoda looking.

As compared to this...

 

It is my hope that Adywan will take some time and reconsider the color choices he's made for Yoda. The color differences alone in Yoda's outfit and hair color are striking...surely I'm not the only one here that thinks this?

The publicity photos can't be used as a means for getting the correct colour for Yoda and dagobah. I'm trying to get ESB, for the most part, to look how it did pre 2004. The main problem is that we have been so use to the faded print used for the GOUT that we think that this is the way it originally looked. You would be surprised just how dagaobah originally looked. The 1997 is the closest to how ESB originally looked and, thanks to puggos 16mm print, i can see that the SE is so much closer to how it originally looked than the faded GOUT/ laserdisc prints

Now you can see that i have used a balance between the SE, Puggo and GOUT for the colouring. But this also shows just how incorrect the colouring of the 2004 DVD/ Blu_ray releases is.

Dark_Lord_of_the_Pith said:

This is my first post too but I'm nice so I'll say hello first. So, hello nice to meet you all.

Now, I was wondering if you'd give me your opinions about the communication holograms. In ANHR Leia's hologram looks (to my eyes at least) completely blue in long shots but with flashes of normal colour across her face in close up. The same happens with Luke's in ROTJ save the one shot of his back that appears to be fully blue. But from what I've seen of the new Emperor hologram from TESBR it looks as though Ady has made him completely blue just as Lucasfilm did when Ian McDiarmid re-shot the scene in 2003. So with every single hologram in the PT appearing to be fully blue my question is this: Is there an official scheme Ady is using for holograms in the revisited saga, will PT holgrams be altered to match the OT or vice versa?

I've got to say that I quite prefer the PT holograms but what do the rest of you folks think?

I see the PT ones as early holograms which are black & white and the OT ones as more advanced and they now have colour ;). The emperor hologram isn't completely blue, but there wouldn't be a huge amount of colour as the Emperors face is pretty pale.

 

  I like the colors of the Ties,and the rest of the background  and the color correction of Yoda. Thank you.  

adywan said:

vbangle said:

fishmanlee said:

the Revisited pane looked a little blue in the Luke and Yoda training bit...

Yep this is the end of the world as we know it. Hell has frozen over. I actually agree with fishmanlee on something.

Thanks to the red shifted and faded GOUT and the abominations that are the DVD & Blu-Rays, the true colour of dagobah has been lost. But thankfully i have been privileged to have the opportunity to work on Puggo's latest 16mm transfer of ESB, which is a glorious print and you would be surprised just how great the colours of the original version of ESB looked. As you can see here Revisited is pretty close to how this movie originally looked all those years ago (thanks to Puggo for allowing me to post the screenshots from his version)

 

Another thing is the skies during the approach to Cloud City. The whole scene on the blu-ray/DVD has had a strong red filter added. But the skies were originally blue in most of the shots.

 

Oh and here is the second clip:

http://hotfile.com/dl/143871694/e7dfef2/clip_2.rar.html

 

  Wow very nice job, the colors are really close to the actual film. But yours have a few additions to it. Very nice job! 

doubleofive said:

UPDATE:

From Adywan:

Ok guys, i've been quiet lately due to the fact that my internet sucks. had little or no connection for days now and i'm having to use a pre-pay mobile internet dongle, which give you no internet time at all. I'm down to my last 30p credit on it and i refuse to pay for any more, especially when i'm already paying for net use with my ISP. Doesn't look like the problem is going to get fixed any time soon either(crappy TalkTalk). when i do get a landline connection it has been 32kbit/s, which is slower than bloody dial up.

This is why he hasn't been able to respond to anything recently. Work continues offline though. He said on Facebook the last week that he had been up for 48 hours working on a single shot!

EDIT: Yes, we were fighting for who would update you all first. Well, no one can out Twitter me!

 

 Sorry to hear that.

doubleofive said:

As far as we can gather, the 97 SE was scanned at 1080p (the same resolution Episodes 2 & 3 were recorded at) and further modified at that resolution into what was put on DVD and shown on HDTV. That 1080p master was again used for the Blu-ray, uncompressed, but still bearing a lot of the problems the DVD apparently had at its source.

   I knew they used the negative film cells fort the SE, but never Knew they where scanned at 1080p.

Jaitea said:

Sorry to bring up snowspeeders again, but they seem to only develop orange markings in daylight.....strange photosynth paint?

J

  Never notice that before.

greenpenguino said:

Bravo Zulu said:

                                       

Anyway, I wonder how Ady's doing.

Two of Jedi's biggest FAILS together in one shot...

Happy Now?

   Yes I have notice that Luke never kicked the guy.

Bester said:

Download VLC Media Player.  It's a free app and can be found with a simple Google search.  VLC plays pretty much any video file you can throw at it!  :)

  OK I got the VLC ,but any thing i play it is just a black screen?  

adywan said:

Here is this years Revisited clip for Christmas. This scene is mostly complete apart from the overhead gantry matte shots( just after Luke gets his hand cut off), where i will be replacing the background matte and one close-up shot of Vader. This scene uses the Blu-rays as a source.

Now, because facebook have now decided to start blocking and deleting videos and i received warnings of a ban for uploading this clip and another last night, you will now have to download the video to view on your PC or TV. Same thing is happening with Youtube so this is the only option (Vimeo give me a lot of problems uploading). The video is approx 150mb and is a 1080p mkv file.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OIZP19AJ

   Can anyone help me, I download the footage, but all I have is Windows Media Player, and it will not play any thing I download. Thank you who ever helps me.