It does seem there were some scenes cut from the film; from the ‘The Rise of Skywalker The Visual Dictionary’ (out today), in this case Kylo Ren and ‘Cult Colonists’ on Mustafar:-
Same here - the humour from having the characters not be able to talk was pretty sweet 😃
It’d be great if it that talking feature is optional - and I also hope they keep the ‘pick up and play’ feel of the previous games too (whether for a quick 10 minute blast - or sitting down for a couple of hours on it)…
An OT thread on the previous ‘Lego Star Wars’ games - https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/LEGO-Star-Wars-the-games/id/1955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY7agqa-cqY - a 20 minute video at the Nox youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZPcmfZVu70 - a 10 minute video at the Game Evolutions youtube channel
Box Office Mojo has IX at for making $59.1m internationally, so far:-
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt2527338
The-Number has the same $59.1m figure internationally, and with $40 million for the US, so far:-
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Star-Wars-The-Rise-of-Skywalker-(2019)#tab=summary
Seems there will also be an 18-disc ‘Skywalker Saga’ blu ray box set (and a 9-disc box set on dvd) - for the UK at least…
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B082WXD4ZH & https://us.zavvi.com/blu-ray-and-dvd/the-rise-of-skywalker/box-sets.list
^ going on this article - https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/121919-0930
I imagine there’ll also be an option in most other countries too… (or ‘on import’ for those that may prefer it IF it a UK-only thing)
Aight folks, here’s my TROS cover - still not 100% on the logo, but I’ve yet to see any fanmande ones that I like, so I cooked a new one up myself:
Sometime when I’m bored I’ll make a fresh thread with all of my covers in one place.
I love that - and have been staring at the logo for an unhealthy amount of time! It must be the elegance in the simplicity of it (or something like that 😉) - sweet work mate.
You guys asked for it…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUtFCxIWE_o
😃
It’ll be intriguing to find out more about the cut / deleted scenes for the film…
For me, JJ has an abrupt / fast-paced style sometimes where cuts to the next scene come in quite early - resulting in not giving time for the emotion or resonance of some scenes to be fully taken in or absorbed by the viewer (not on the first viewing anyway).
Let’s hope they are also not time-stamped this time around a la TFA 😉
Edit: The Jedi voices speaking to Rey (as best as I can figure out - and so some are probably incorrect):-
Obi-Wan Kenobi (McGregor): “These are your final steps, Rey… rise and take them”
Anakin Skywalker: “Rey”
Ahsoka: “Rey”
Kanan: “Rey”
Anakin Skywalker: “Bring back the balance Rey, as I did…”
Ahsoka: “In the light - find the light, Rey…”
Indistinguishable… - a female voice, and then Yoda?
Qui-Gon Jinn: “Every Jedi who ever lived, lives in you…”
Anakin Skywalker: “The Force surrounds you, Rey”
Aayla Secura: “Let it guide you, as it guided us”
Mace Windu: “Feel the Force flowing through you, Rey”
Anakin Skywalker: “Let it lift you”
Adi Gallia: “Rise, Rey”
Luminara Unduli: “Rey”
Qui-Gon Jinn: “We stand behind you, Rey”
Obi-Wan Kenobi (Guinness): “Rey”
Yoda: “Rise in the Force”
Kanan: “In the heart of the Jedi lies her strength”
Obi-Wan Kenobi (McGregor): “Rise”
Qui-Gon Jinn: “Rise”
Luke Skywalker: “Rey, the Force will be with you… always”
An article on the voices (according to this below, Ezra was not featured):-
And Rey’s ma is a Scouser; nice one 😃
For those interested - an article on projected takings for TROS from the ‘Box Office Pro’ website…
‘Weekend Forecast: What to Expect from Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker‘s Domestic Run as It Now Tracks for $160-190M Launch’:-
Day-of-projections now between $160-180.
Rocknroll41 & Dr. Dre looking pretty good right about now.
That is a very low figure mate 😉
(sorry - it had to be done 😃)
doubleofive posted the following in the 4K restoration on Star Wars thread - though it is also worth highlighting in here too:-
I’m really not liking this defeatist attitude. We’ve been fighting for the OOT for 15+ years. I’m not about to give up now. JJ says he didn’t even understand Disney’s excuse. Which says to me they probably don’t have a valid excuse. Just that they don’t see a demand that would override “George asked us not to”.
The problem I’m seeing is an “I got mine” attitude. Disney doesn’t seem to mind the fan restorations as much as Lucas did (which is why he released the GOUT). The more we go around saying “Well, I guess it’s not coming, doesn’t matter to me because I’ve got [DEED/4KXX/VHS]”, the less likely Disney is going to spend money to give us new scans. I’m not saying we can’t have and enjoy the fan preservations, I’m saying we can’t pretend they would be ANYTHING compared to a professional scan of the uncirculated three color separation backups they have just sitting in an archive. We have to make the demand.
The fact that Disney may be depending on the fans to preserve film history is shameful. And we can’t depend on ourselves to be able to preserve it for future generations. Or even past generations. I shouldn’t have to download shady copies of the movies my parents loved to then convert into a different format to then burn on a disc and hope it works on their disc players. We as fans should not be depended on to distribute the original films.
The simple fact is that the originals are historical artifacts. We need to convince Disney of that.
I have an article written that goes through every addition & how each one ruins the movies & shows how none of them were actually done for artistic purposes. I hope when it’s published that it will be the spark that burns down the Special Editions, or at least shows that they are so flawed that we deserve to at least have the option to watch the originals.
#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy
So wait, is Star Wars really the Saga of Palpatine? %^%&& Disney in their #@4%^!!!
One hundred percent. This isn’t the Skywalker saga, it’s the Palpatine saga. He’s the only character to be continuously present in all eras of this story and is also the only one that actually succeeds in some of his efforts.
But Rey is a Skywalker now. That was the message I thought came across at the end. Family is not just blood. Adoption and all that.
And also the mindset of people too in the wider sense - that the character and actions of a person are more important than past connotations, connections or expectations with the name of someone or a group.
It is more a Fan Film than a Fan Edit mate - albeit a very well done and enjoyable one 😃
There is more info on quite a few Star Wars Fan Films here (including Star Wars: Origins):-
The Star Wars Fan Films / Shorts thread (and scroll down to a list of them)
and also in the Star Wars ‘Fan Films’ section of the An Index Thread for The Expanded Universe & General Star Wars Discussion… thread.
Re ‘Star Wars Origins’… I really enjoyed it, great productions values, concept, style and execution - a lot of fun to watch.
‘J.J. Abrams wants the Original Theatrical versions of Star Wars, too’:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOHgaPQTTlc - by HelloGreedo (6 minutes long)
(with an interesting drinking game in the comments - you know… 😉 )
doubleofive also has intriguing take on it - https://twitter.com/doubleofive/status/1205475281621913603
‘@jjabrams has to watch @despecialized if he wants to see the original cut. It’s INSANE.’
He’s not wrong; as he also points out… a two-time Star Wars film director has to watch a fan-made reconstruction (and a truly beautiful labour of love it is) to view the theatrical versions of the three groundbreaking and iconic films that changed how movies were made…
It’s now been removed.
I think this was the image from the removed link? (likely concept / placeholder art - though you never know):-
The Digital Bits had mention of the set here too (and used the same art as above?):-
Excuse me, can I talk about the movie freely here? Just watched it…
There is a discussion about the JJ interview with NowThis from last week, here mate:-
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/4K-restoration-on-Star-Wars/id/16857/page/302
Shocking that it’s buried in some random thread…
I only posted to them so you could follow the conversations there too - by all means feel free to also / continue to discuss it in here.
(I prefer such topics to have their own threads - it makes them much easier to find and keep tabs on 😉 )
Maclunky 😕
Hey there, everyone, I don’t believe this has been discussed, I see Harmy only quoted it. If it has, just ignore me.
Apparently in the Disney+ release of Star Wars, which I hear looks excellent because of a new 4K scan or something, they once again altered the scene with Han and Greedo. Greedo still shoots first but now they added the line “Maclunky” that Greedo shouts right before he dies.
I can’t confirm this, though, since I’m not from the US and Disney + isn’t available over here, I thought it was a joke at first. This is why I thought I would discuss it here.
Why, in the name of the force, would they do that? Unbelievable.
On a lighter note, I’d like to thank you, Harmy, for all the hard work. I’ve had the privilege to watch the Despecialized Editions once again this year in preparation for The Rise of Skywalker. I will watch it tomorrow at midnight, I’m quite excited. Hope you and everyone have a great time when you see it. MTFBWY.
CatBus has nailed it on the head mate.
There are more discussions on the change(s) here:-
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/4K-restoration-on-Star-Wars/id/16857/page/281 - and onwards
and also here:-
doubleofive also did a comprehensive article for The Digital Bits here:-
https://thedigitalbits.com/featured/articles/sw-new-hope-disneyplus-4k-2019 (ESB & ROTJ to come)
and his https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp is well worth following (or bookmarking if you’re not on twitter)
His site - https://starwarsviscomp.wordpress.com
And Blog too - https://doubleofive.wordpress.com/swsevc
(I don’t know where he finds the time! 😃)
There is a discussion about the JJ interview with NowThis from last week, here mate:-
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/4K-restoration-on-Star-Wars/id/16857/page/302
and a little more in Harmy’s Despecialized thread too:-
Warning, deep spoiler:
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/ecbvpa/rey_vs_palpatine/
That looks so awful.
Rey: “I am all the Jedi”???!?!? She’s not even a Jedi how can she claim to be them all? And Palpatine claiming to be “all the Siths” literally makes no sense as in the prequels, and indeed the Original Trilogy as well, he literally destroyed all the Siths. He killed them first, then the Jedi. He showed absolutely no allegiance to the Sith order. In my favourite Prequel he sends an ill-prepared apprentice Darth Maul to his death with the false-promise that he is much stronger “they will be no match” he tells him. That’s one of my favourite things about Phantom Menace is how heartless he is towards Maul, he’s really testing him to see if he’s strong enough to serve him - it’s complete self-interest. Just like how he tests Luke in Return of the Jedi (but he isn’t prepared for Luke).
Oh dear this is what Star Wars has become. Bringing back a beloved villain, just to make a complete mockery out of him.
If we take these scenes in isolation - and without context - then we may not have the full understanding of what is occurring (or has already occurred) 😉
Without the full story (or events around this part of the plot / film) we’re just guessing - though you still may be right, of course.
In the linked thread above there is no need for spoiler tags / codes etc - and members can talk about the film freely in there…
Well in to Rodney-2187 for compiling & updating all the predictions, Rogue Leader for kindly & generously offering up some prizes, Dre for creating the thread, and also to everyone taking part.
Good luck 😃
It’s at 54% now on RT, and 53 on metacritic. The reviews on youtube are very similar in tone to the critic reviews. It’s looking to be a disaster. For reference TPM is at 53% on RT.
It was a ‘disaster’ back in February too:-
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-9-review-bombed-rotten-tomatoes/
IMDB also temporarily pulled the ratings for The Rise Of Skywalker earlier in the week when many people started posting reviews/ratings of the film - thousands of people, apparently… as they were all at the US Premiere.
I have no doubt there’ll be some people bashing it who simply haven’t yet seen TROS - or won’t be seeing it. Yet bash on it they will - with some considerable time and effort put into doing so - both repeatedly and vocally… (just in case anyone forgets they don’t like it 😉)
As for MetaCritic - at the time of writing this, MetaCritic says… 11 reviews are positive, 20 are mixed, 2 are negative: link
20th December Edit: RT’s ‘audience scores’ for TROS are at 86% (on 6,200+ odd ratings) - link
Oh sorry, i missunderstood this.
A pdf from the cover and inlays is available, with some infos about it.
https://ia803101.us.archive.org/31/items/cd_star-wars-shadows-of-the-empire_joel-mcneely/cd_star-wars-shadows-of-the-empire_joel-mcneely.pdfThe complete disc is also on archive.org, but the content is locked.
Seems to work just fine:
https://archive.org/details/StarWarsShadows/01-Main+Theme+from+Star+Wars+-+Leia’s+Nightmare.mp3True, but he’s referring to this copy: https://archive.org/details/cd_star-wars-shadows-of-the-empire_joel-mcneely
Yes, that is the disc.
I was unsure if i allowed to post that link here.
The link is fine mate as there are only audio samples on there (along with general information about the release).
If the link featured downloads of the full disc (or complete tracks from it) then it would be a problem…
Plus, it seems, that soundtrack is available to buy.
This is the official spoilerific Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker review thread.
Please post all reviews and opinions containing spoilers in this thread. There’s no need to preface your post with spoiler warnings.
As a courtesy to fellow members, when linking to youtube videos or articles etc, please give both the title and source to which you are linking to - thank you.
Keep it civil and be on your best behavior. If you disagree with someone’s opinion, do so politely. We’re not kidding about banning people.
This thread is NOT the place for members to rehash previous circular and oft-repeated debates that have taken place in the TFA/TLJ or more relevant character threads etc - this thread is for discussing Episode IX.
Thanks goes to whoever edited my above post I didn’t know how to post a spoiler. Here are the photos/screenshots so far:
Nothing in those photos makes me, personally, want to see the film. I’m personally thankful to have seen & read the leaks because at least I know this film isn’t for me instead of buying a ticket and being disappointed.
I thought the leaks were based on trailers, tv spots, other promo content and some material from the books & comics leaking early? (with some obvious gaps filled in along the way)
Was this not the case? And somebody actually had more info to leak other than what appeared in the above promo and book content?
No, as far as I can see pretty much the entire movie was leaked months ago, apart for a number of aspects, that were changed in the reshoots (many of which leaked in the last few weeks). I’ve been following the leaks for a while now, and I’m personally suprised how accurate they are.
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I thought the leaks were based on trailers, tv spots, other promo content and some material from the books & comics leaking early? (with some obvious gaps filled in along the way)
Was this not the case? And somebody actually had more info to leak other than what appeared in the above promo and book content?
Ah you can see from (most of) those photos there’s not proper cinematic masking, which gives away it certainly isn’t from the premiere screening. There have been deep leaks for ages, all of the screenshots confirm them. Heck even TFA’s plot leaked in full months in advance. The entire ROS plot leaked on Reddit, plain and bare, for all to see, around three or four months ago.
Nice one lads, thanks.
I’m looking forward to seeing the film itself - and didn’t bother very much with the leaks (and only watched a few of the numerous tv spots available).
I did see those photos appearing online last night - but given the lack of context for me there’s nothing that puts me off seeing it.
‘Rian Johnson on ‘Knives Out,’ ‘Star Wars’ and Toxic Fandom’:-
https://variety.com/2019/film/spotlight/rian-johnson-knives-out-star-wars-last-jedi-1203410899
Seems his Star Wars project is still a go.
Given Kathleen Kennedy’s recent comments on future Star Wars content not having to adhere to a trilogy format:-
“I think it gives us a more open-ended view of storytelling and doesn’t lock us into this three-act structure,” she said. “We’re not going to have some finite number and fit it into a box. We’re really going to let the story dictate that.”
Maybe we’ll get two films instead - or maybe four 😉
Bar calling out the toxic fans - the racists, sexists, homophobes, trolls, death threat makers and announcers, and bullies who chase people involved in films they don’t like off the internet etc… I haven’t seen quotes from Rian Johnson chastising genuine criticism of The Last Jedi - I’ve only seen quotes from him stating he was perfectly fine with fans expressing genuine criticism of the film.
Perhaps someone can provide quotes from him to the contrary? (I am somewhat surprised nobody has done so previously.)
Thanks goes to whoever edited my above post I didn’t know how to post a spoiler. Here are the photos/screenshots so far:
Nothing in those photos makes me, personally, want to see the film. I’m personally thankful to have seen & read the leaks because at least I know this film isn’t for me instead of buying a ticket and being disappointed.
I thought the leaks were based on trailers, tv spots, other promo content and some material from the books & comics leaking early? (with some obvious gaps filled in along the way)
Was this not the case? And somebody actually had more info to leak other than what appeared in the above promo and book content?
