oojason

SirGnomes said:

Hello,

I recently downloaded Star Wars BD25 and I mounted it on my computer to watch it before I burn it to blu-ray. Unfortunately I noticed on the menus there’s a green flickering line that runs across the entire top edge. I’m not sure which part of the process went wrong so I’m not sure how to fix the problem. Any advice would be very appreciated.

Just this morning I downloaded ROTJ and I encountered the exact same problem. Because of the consistency between the two films, I think it might be resolved once it’s burned to blu-ray. But then I also don’t want to put in the effort and money of burning it to blu-ray only to have the same green line pop up. I’m really not sure what to do now.

Another update, I downloaded TESB and got the same problem. I thought I can’t have replicated the exact same mistake 3 times in a row so I figured it must be a problem with either VLC Media Player or my laptop. I moved ROTJ over to my parents laptop and it played perfectly. I assume the other 2 will work fine as well.

I think I’m going to leave this post up so if anyone encounters the same problem then they can see this and hopefully fix it.

I remember having a similar problem a couple of years back… I think I corrected it by:-

Open the vlc media player, then click on ‘Tools’, then click on ‘Preferences’, and then click on the ‘Video’ icon.

Change the output from Automatic to Open GL video output, and then click Save.

(I think I may have had a play around with the ‘dropdown’ menu options below the ‘Automatic’ setting… to find which worked the best for me (for me, it was ‘Open GL video’ option).

Media Player Classic is a decent and free alternative to VLC player - it may be worth trying too.
 

Good luck with it mate - I hope it works.
 

^ Enjoyed that, nice one. A higher quality copy from ILM (the above video suffers from heavy pixelation for me for some reason):-

‘ILM Behind the Magic: The Visual Effects of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9d1bkRC0Hs - from the ILMVFX youtube channel. (4 minutes long)
 

StarkillerAG said:

jarbear said:

Sooo … leave it as be?

I guess, given that people have pretty thorough arguments for why they like it. It’s obvious I’m in the minority, so I say leave it as be.

That’s probably a good idea… especially as:-
 

'A quick reminder that the Star Wars Preservation and Star Wars Fan Edit sections of the site are NOT the places to bash on certain eras or aspects of the films, actors, film-makers or owners.

There are far more relevant threads in the Beyond the Original Trilogy or General Star Wars Discussion sections of the site to talk about this.

Critiquing a scene in the Star Wars Fan Edits section with the aim of improving it, removing it, altering it etc is perfectly fine. Statements such as ‘Disney sucks’ and ‘this film is so shit no Fan Edit can save it’ is not.’

 
And people are getting annoyed that the Fan Edit and Preservation threads are containing Review/Opinion/Discussion posts about the films - and not the Edits / projects themselves.

Mocata said:

Too subtle, this one is more appropriate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6NPIN_OTLw

Wow - I don’t recall ever seeing that video before… nice find Mocata - and quite a sobering one too.

The full works on it:-

'Original Star Wars Trilogy - Buy It Now Or Lose It Forever (1996):-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6NPIN_OTLw - at the Bamptonoid youtube channel. (28 seconds)
 

The blurb:-

“Star Wars VHS Trilogy Australian-TV Ad (1996)”
 

The voiceover:-

“Star Wars… The Empire Strikes Back… Return Of The Jedi…
Your last chance to own the original Star Wars is almost gone… Buy it today - or lose it forever…”
 

The thread has been somewhat cleaned so it is now back to being about 13las’ video project on ‘The Lost Cut’.

Both the mods and 13las don’t want to see repeat of what occurred in here earlier - thank you.

The video has been released by 13las - in case anyone has missed it - is very much worth a watch, and can be found here:-

‘Star Wars: The Lost Cut Explained’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRmCUjvZti0

The blurb:-

“A comprehensive exploration of the mythical “Lost Cut” of the original Star Wars. Featuring rare footage, audio and behind-the-scenes information.”
 

^ be sure to check out 13las’ other quality Star Wars videos at his Film Spaced YouTube channel too.
 

These threads may be of some help - from just a quick ‘copy & paste’ from the An Index & Help Thread for Preservation of Other Properties…:-
 

In the projects section…

THX 1138: The Original Version - by Rikter
THX 1138 “preservations” - by msycamore
THX 1138 Japanese letterboxed LD preservation - by csd79
THX-1138 (1st Director’s Cut) 35mm Grindhouse Edition - by Mavimao
THX 1138 1971 ‘Flat’ Theatrical version preservation - by poita
 

In the Discussion / unfinished projects section section…

THX on 35mm Tech IB preservation - HELP NEEDED - by Chewielewis
THX 1138 “preservations” - by thxita
THX Italian 35mm - Feedback thread - by mysycamore
THX-1138 Original Warner Brothers Cut (1971) DVD-5 - by Trooperman
HD Transfer - THX-1138 (720p) - by nookupeous
THX 1138 1971 ‘Flat’ Theatrical version preservation. - by poita

THX 1138 - What a Special Edition SHOULD Be. - by ReleaseTheOriginals (in ‘Theatrical Cuts vs. Subsequent Releases’)
THX-1138 - by Trooperman (2005 discussion in ‘Media: Film, TV, Books, Comics, Games, and More’)
THX-1138 - by Luke Skywalker (2004 discussion in ‘Media: Film, TV, Books, Comics, Games, and More’)

a site search, (click here if you don’t know how to do a site search), may yield you some more results - good luck with it 😃
 

The above link will take you to the ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com thread, in the ‘General Assistance’ section.
 

‘Star Wars – One Last Time VHS 1995 Trailer (HD Restoration)’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKr5R1VNPjI - at the Rogue Video youtube channel. (1 and a bit minutes)
 

The voiceover:-

"For those who remember
For those who will never forget
And for a whole new generation who will experience it for the very first time…

The Star Wars Trilogy…
Three timeless adventures which changed movie-making forever!
Now, the entire Trilogy digitally remastered in THX for the ultimate in sound and picture quality.

This will be your last chance to own the original version of Star Wars…
The George Lucas masterpiece that launched the Star Wars Trilogy.
The Force is forever - for all generations!

The original Star Wars Trilogy on video - one last time…"
 

‘Space Adventures (Star Wars Day)’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaSWGwKKFxk - at the Paul Constantakis youtube channel. (2017. 1 and bit minutes)
 

The blurb:-

“It was four decades ago that Star Wars hit the silver screen. This film is an homage to not only the creators of this universe but to all the childhood imaginations that were changed forever. Happy Star Wars Day to all.”
 

Return Of The Jedi occasionally gets a raw deal on the quality of art for it…

^ by Noriyoshi Ohrai - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noriyoshi_Ohrai

^ by Josh Kirby - https://www.joshkirbyart.com

^ by Noble 6 (aka Colin Morella) - https://www.facebook.com/NobleSixDesign

^ by Rick Sternbach - https://twitter.com/ricksternbach

^ by Michel Jouin - https://www.planete-ardechoise.com/art/ardeche/602/michel-jouin---affichiste--dessinateur.html

^ by Nicolas Siner - https://www.artstation.com/nicolassiner

^ by detola - https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Feedback-Please-Original-Trilogy-Poster/id/51688 😃
 

Edit: Detolas Custom BluRay Set - (Pic Heavy) - in the Case Covers, Disc Labels, and Fan Art of the site.
 

^ by Manuel Morgado - https://www.behance.net/gallery/36152289/Star-Wars-Original-Trilogy

(with individual poster images and links, illustrations at various stages, and also a ‘how-to’…)

^ Ralph McQuarrie art re-worked into a ‘film poster’ format (by unknown)
 

V.I.N.Cent said:

^ I just love the animation on this simple gif! 😃

I don’t know how they do it - yet it is pretty cool…

Orla Brady

‘Star Trek: Picard’ Spoiler…

Single-handedly made Irish Romulans cool, or hot or something… ‘cheeky feckers’ indeed! https://twitter.com/orla_brady

Hi & welcome Pizza Time,

There are a few options in obtaining the Despecialized Editions, which are mentioned in this thread:-

Some info & help for Harmy’s Despecialized Editions of the Original Trilogy… - in the ‘General Assistance’ section of the site.
 

As well as some more ideas mentioned here:-

I don’t have a computer to acquire project X - or blu ray writer to burn project X to disc - please help…

^ from the ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com thread - which has a few other related posts in there too.

Re the subject of the Despecialized Editions and other projects being sold for profit online etc, this thread may be of interest:-

Dealing with People Selling Fan Projects

^ listed in the An Index & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations… thread.
 

The Best copy for prequel trilogy? thread may be of some interest - along with other discussion threads in the The ‘Which Is Best?’ SW Preservation Project discussion threads… section of the An Index Thread (and more) for Star Wars Preservations…

emanswfan’s ‘Filmized Editions’ can be found in the Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan thread, listed in the Star Wars Preservations (non-Original Trilogy) - from any source… section of the An Index Thread (and more) for Star Wars Preservations….

If you’re looking for Fan Edits - and not Preservations, there are similar ‘Index’ and ‘Which is the best Edit?’ threads in the Star Wars Fan Edits and Other Projects section of the site.
 

Good luck with it 😃
 

^ PM sent.

Many happy returns, Ray - have a top weekend mate 😃

DrDre said:

oojason said:

DrDre said:

yotsuya said:

StarkillerAG said:

yotsuya said:

StarkillerAG said:

yotsuya said:

DrDre said:

A good and balanced analysis by the channel Films&Stuff of why TROS doesn’t work as a film for many (12 min):

The broken structure of Rise of Skywalker

https://youtu.be/HQrNK8NYevI

While it may not work for some, a great many seem to love this film, including myself. I found his argument that because we didn’t see landings that indicated a problem to be silly. And his analysis that Rey redid her journey in one film is off. Star Wars has always had a larger structure than a single film, but each film has always followed the 3 act structure and this one did as well Rey goes on her final journey - her final test if you will.

Maybe you loved it, and that’s fine, but the majority of audiences didn’t, which seems to indicate that there’s something wrong with the pacing and structure of the movie. That’s what the video is about, it isn’t about not having any shots of the heroes landing on a planet, although that is part of the pacing problem.

Sequel movies have a hard job in coming back to revisit the same characters and places with a new story. They were never going to please everyone. I think they set up to please the people who wanted to be entertained and I think they succeeded.

That’s my main problem with the movie. JJ didn’t want to make a meaningful movie, he didn’t even want to make a good movie, he just wanted a big dumb blockbuster that lots of people would enjoy without really thinking about it.

The box office numbers are not final yet, but it has done very well. People have wanted to see it and keep seeing it.

All Star Wars movies are blockbusters. And many think they have good stories, but I can find reviews clear back to 1977 calling them mindless drivel for the masses.

The old-fashioned reviewers who thought the OT was drivel were a minority. Those movies were universally praised by almost everyone else. There’s a reason why Star Wars and Empire consistently rank high on film critics’ top 100 movies lists.

The box office numbers are still disappointing. Keep in mind that most people were expecting this movie to make almost as much as TFA, and the ones who successfully predicted the current box office numbers were labeled as pessimists.

I was predicting around the same as TFA. And it is close to that, though still not quite there.

What alternate universe are you living in? 1 billion dollars isn’t anywhere near TFA’s insane 2 billion dollar gross. TROS has no chance of making as much as TFA or even TLJ.

Sorry, I mistyped. I meant TLJ. And it is getting pretty close, at least as I see it.

The numbers indicate that the critic score is way off on RT. The audience has not been that divided and a great many love it and have called it the best Star Wars since the originals.

Where are you getting this from? The audience reception is almost as divided as TLJ, and even the people who like it know it isn’t even close to being as good as the OT.

The people you talk to and communiate with maybe. The ones I see mostly loved it. I guess it all depends on what circles you are in. And like I said, the people I know personally who have seen it have all (save one) loved it. Lots of die hard Star Wars fans among them.

From other people outside OT. Literally for every negative impression of it I’ve read here, I’ve read another elsewhere that praises it in very high terms. And of the people I personally know who have seen it, the worst review was “I’ll have to think about it”. So I’m seeing the numbers to make that 86% on RT accurate. And the box office numbers agree that it is a popular movie. The best performing movie of a trilogy is always the first. Three for three.

But people (well, other Star Wars fans specifically) are praising this as an amazing movie. I think it is an amazing movie. So I know where they are coming from. I don’t think this trilogy has risen to quite the quality of the OT, but it has gotten closer than Lucas did with the PT. People whose writing skills I trust and who blasted Abrams for Star Trek Into Darkness have admitted this one was well done. So while a great many around here and probably other similar online groups may have found something wrong with it, the numbers do not indicate a majority hated it or thought it was bad. Even the critics, as harsh as they were, leaned a tiny bit in favor of it (the RT critic score never dropped below 50%).

Once again, are you living in an alternate universe? Where is this universal praise you’re talking about? I’ve seen reactions to this movie from all across the internet, and almost all of them are mixed to negative. I haven’t seen a single person (except you) who thinks this movie was anywhere near as good as the OT. Even the people who like it admit it could have been so much better. If you love the movie that’s fine, I’m glad you were satisfied by it. But don’t pretend that everyone else loves it just to get validation for your personal feelings.

I’m not pretending everyone loved it. I’m saying that I see that 86% audience rating on RT as accurate. It matches the personal feedback I’ve gotten.

So, you accept the 86% feedback on RT, which is seen as notoriously unreliable both in a positive, and a negative sense, because it fits with your personal perception, but ignore the lackluster 6.9 rating on imdb, or the fact that its has the lowest cinema score of any of the films (some would argue the cinema score is the most accurate, since it is done by direct polling of the general audience), or the fact that it has the worst RT review score of any of the films (52%). Look this is not the worst movie ever, and certainly not the best, but I would say it is an accurate statement, that its reception is pretty lackluster in general, pretty poor critically, with even the majority of its proponents agreeing it is a very flawed film, and its box office, while still pretty good when compared to the average blockbuster, falls well below expectations, and can thus be classified as dissappointing. So, while I would say it is inaccurate to state a majority hated or disliked this movie, I would say it is equally inaccurate to say a majority liked it as much as you do.

The first reply in this very thread, by yourself below, referred to RT - apparently ‘notoriously unreliable both in a positive, and a negative sense’ - to paint the film as ‘looking to be a disaster’ with a score of 54%.

DrDre said:

It’s at 54% now on RT, and 53 on metacritic. The reviews on youtube are very similar in tone to the critic reviews. It’s looking to be a disaster. For reference TPM is at 53% on RT.

Disaster in terms of its critics’ score, which is perfectly reliable. It’s the audience score I was referring to as being unreliable, which has been controversial for years now. I thought that was obvious, as I refer to the RT critics’ score in my reply to yotsuya (now being at 52%). Why would I do that, if I thought it was unreliable? I also think it was clear, yosuya was speaking about the 86% audience score, which I called into question.

I was attempting to highlight you both using the same site to enforce your respective personal viewpoints / perceptions on the film - and yet also try to dismiss / negate each other’s view for using the same site.

RT has both approved critic scores and audience scores, eh? And one is reliable, whilst the other is not?

Got it. Or I think I’m starting to get it…
 

StarkillerAG said:

it’s not a checkmate that invalidates his argument.

Nor was it posted as such.

Perhaps you could explain to me why you thought it was - via PM - as to not derail this thread.

DrDre said:

yotsuya said:

StarkillerAG said:

yotsuya said:

StarkillerAG said:

yotsuya said:

DrDre said:

A good and balanced analysis by the channel Films&Stuff of why TROS doesn’t work as a film for many (12 min):

The broken structure of Rise of Skywalker

https://youtu.be/HQrNK8NYevI

While it may not work for some, a great many seem to love this film, including myself. I found his argument that because we didn’t see landings that indicated a problem to be silly. And his analysis that Rey redid her journey in one film is off. Star Wars has always had a larger structure than a single film, but each film has always followed the 3 act structure and this one did as well Rey goes on her final journey - her final test if you will.

Maybe you loved it, and that’s fine, but the majority of audiences didn’t, which seems to indicate that there’s something wrong with the pacing and structure of the movie. That’s what the video is about, it isn’t about not having any shots of the heroes landing on a planet, although that is part of the pacing problem.

Sequel movies have a hard job in coming back to revisit the same characters and places with a new story. They were never going to please everyone. I think they set up to please the people who wanted to be entertained and I think they succeeded.

That’s my main problem with the movie. JJ didn’t want to make a meaningful movie, he didn’t even want to make a good movie, he just wanted a big dumb blockbuster that lots of people would enjoy without really thinking about it.

The box office numbers are not final yet, but it has done very well. People have wanted to see it and keep seeing it.

All Star Wars movies are blockbusters. And many think they have good stories, but I can find reviews clear back to 1977 calling them mindless drivel for the masses.

The old-fashioned reviewers who thought the OT was drivel were a minority. Those movies were universally praised by almost everyone else. There’s a reason why Star Wars and Empire consistently rank high on film critics’ top 100 movies lists.

The box office numbers are still disappointing. Keep in mind that most people were expecting this movie to make almost as much as TFA, and the ones who successfully predicted the current box office numbers were labeled as pessimists.

I was predicting around the same as TFA. And it is close to that, though still not quite there.

What alternate universe are you living in? 1 billion dollars isn’t anywhere near TFA’s insane 2 billion dollar gross. TROS has no chance of making as much as TFA or even TLJ.

Sorry, I mistyped. I meant TLJ. And it is getting pretty close, at least as I see it.

The numbers indicate that the critic score is way off on RT. The audience has not been that divided and a great many love it and have called it the best Star Wars since the originals.

Where are you getting this from? The audience reception is almost as divided as TLJ, and even the people who like it know it isn’t even close to being as good as the OT.

The people you talk to and communiate with maybe. The ones I see mostly loved it. I guess it all depends on what circles you are in. And like I said, the people I know personally who have seen it have all (save one) loved it. Lots of die hard Star Wars fans among them.

From other people outside OT. Literally for every negative impression of it I’ve read here, I’ve read another elsewhere that praises it in very high terms. And of the people I personally know who have seen it, the worst review was “I’ll have to think about it”. So I’m seeing the numbers to make that 86% on RT accurate. And the box office numbers agree that it is a popular movie. The best performing movie of a trilogy is always the first. Three for three.

But people (well, other Star Wars fans specifically) are praising this as an amazing movie. I think it is an amazing movie. So I know where they are coming from. I don’t think this trilogy has risen to quite the quality of the OT, but it has gotten closer than Lucas did with the PT. People whose writing skills I trust and who blasted Abrams for Star Trek Into Darkness have admitted this one was well done. So while a great many around here and probably other similar online groups may have found something wrong with it, the numbers do not indicate a majority hated it or thought it was bad. Even the critics, as harsh as they were, leaned a tiny bit in favor of it (the RT critic score never dropped below 50%).

Once again, are you living in an alternate universe? Where is this universal praise you’re talking about? I’ve seen reactions to this movie from all across the internet, and almost all of them are mixed to negative. I haven’t seen a single person (except you) who thinks this movie was anywhere near as good as the OT. Even the people who like it admit it could have been so much better. If you love the movie that’s fine, I’m glad you were satisfied by it. But don’t pretend that everyone else loves it just to get validation for your personal feelings.

I’m not pretending everyone loved it. I’m saying that I see that 86% audience rating on RT as accurate. It matches the personal feedback I’ve gotten.

So, you accept the 86% feedback on RT, which is seen as notoriously unreliable both in a positive, and a negative sense, because it fits with your personal perception, but ignore the lackluster 6.9 rating on imdb, or the fact that its has the lowest cinema score of any of the films (some would argue the cinema score is the most accurate, since it is done by direct polling of the general audience), or the fact that it has the worst RT review score of any of the films (52%). Look this is not the worst movie ever, and certainly not the best, but I would say it is an accurate statement, that its reception is pretty lackluster in general, pretty poor critically, with even the majority of its proponents agreeing it is a very flawed film, and its box office, while still pretty good when compared to the average blockbuster, falls well below expectations, and can thus be classified as dissappointing. So, while I would say it is inaccurate to state a majority hated or disliked this movie, I would say it is equally inaccurate to say a majority liked it as much as you do.

The first reply in this very thread, by yourself below, referred to RT - apparently ‘notoriously unreliable both in a positive, and a negative sense’ - to paint the film as ‘looking to be a disaster’ with a score of 54%.

DrDre said:

It’s at 54% now on RT, and 53 on metacritic. The reviews on youtube are very similar in tone to the critic reviews. It’s looking to be a disaster. For reference TPM is at 53% on RT.

arnautovic said:

Hi,
This version seems to be very difficult to find… 😦
Anyone who has it and can share it with me?
I’ll appreciate it a lot!!

It appears in this site:
http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/index.html
http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/2005-TUN-sith1.html

Thanks in advance.

none has a thread about the topic on here:-

Theater Performance Preservations

^ it may be worth reading through the thread to see if any / they are available etc - or sending him a PM.
 

These, also by none, may also be of some interest?:-

F:L:I:M:S:I:P:L:A:S:T: D:A:T:A:B:A:S:E:

Treadwell Collection

SW Line Movies/Documentaries/Films/Shorts/Etc
 

Good luck with it mate.
 

‘Star Wars: Underworld - test footage + Making Of’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tpTOwXVu8g - from the holonet youtube channel. (10 mins)
 

The blurb:-

"All rights belong to Stargate Studios and Lucasfilm.

Released test footage from 2010 of the cancelled Star Wars TV show “Underworld,” which was to take place in the lower levels of Coruscant. The series was set after the events of Order 66. The video game “1313” was to be a tie-in of this series. Due to the immense cost of shooting the series, as well as the selling of Lucasfilm to Disney, “Underworld” was delayed and eventually cancelled.

This footage was produced by Stargate Studios (whose VFX resume includes Doctor Who, The Walking Dead, The Orville) in partnership with Lucasfilm. The VFX technology displayed in the making-of portion is Stargate Studios’ impressive real-time rendering Virtual Backlot Live technology.

For more information about the concept art, stories, and development of “Underworld,” as well as “1313,” this archive has much information: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DdxDngZpm6acDGOjXTmj6YeFSMO9aI2fNnAc1lL5HOY/edit"
 

Hi Indi the star wars fan - maybe looking in, and then asking in, one of ronwlim’s threads is a good idea mate.

Or PMing ronwlim to ask him?
 

Good luck with it 😃
 

The silence from Lucasfilm on the changes made to the 2019 SE releases is staggering - if not somewhat insulting…

Is it because they don’t care anymore?
That they have lost track of the sheer number of changes made to the Original Trilogy films themselves?
That they cannot come up with valid reasons for the changes made without further ridiculing past claims and statements by them / George as to why changes were previously made?
Or Lucasfilm is simply content that the fans will throw more money at them for yet another version release featuring more unknown changes every 7-8 years?

It’ll be interesting to see if any details are forthcoming from them for the physical media release of the ‘Skywalker Saga’ come March 2020…
 

The cost of the 27-disc 4K UHD set at Amazon UK is now £200 - up £20 on the price previously listed.

The prices for the 18-disc blu ray set, and the 9-disc dvd sets remain the same as before - £65 & £45 respectively.

Edit: the release dates on BestBuy and Amazon have also been removed or amended to no longer have a release date of 31st March. Instead, they now read as ‘Release Date: Not Announced’ on BestBuy, & have a date of ‘2030’ on Amazon…
 

The previous 31st March release date for ‘The Rise Of Skywalker’ on 4K UHD, blu ray and dvd… have also been changed and withdrawn as above too.