oojason

suspiciouscoffee said:

generalfrevious said:

The time might come when we may need to take action in the streets to get the OOT released.

A superb call to arms brother 😃

‘Finsbury Park attack: Man dies as van hits worshippers’…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40322960

&

Finsbury Park terror attack: one dead near north London mosque – latest updates

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/19/north-london-van-incident-finsbury-park-casualties-collides-pedestrians-live-updates

Ryan McAvoy said:

Lord Buckethead’s first policy…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhzZCDh6VD4

I’d vote for that!

Is it wrong that Lord Buckethead comes across more human than the current PM? - showing more empathy, compassion and humour -despite being an intergalactic space lord with a bucket for a head, and also being someone Theresa May likely targeted with her…

program as Home Secretary?

https://twitter.com/LordBuckethead/status/873806533074837504

He can also move on the dancefloor…

https://twitter.com/LordBuckethead/status/875681558262411264

and is probably polling higher than Theresa May (and Trump and Putin) right now too 😃

and here he is thanking the people of Maidenhead (which could well be a first, either in earth time or galactic time)…

http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news/letters-to-the-editor/116775/letter-lord-buckethead-thanks-the-people-of-maidenhead.html#.WUOwisLb538.twitter

yhwx said:

Oi! No posting porn on the ot.com 😉

^ That is heavenly - and so far the only proper sandwich in this thread…

my small contribution to this thread of depravity and wrongness so far:-

and now my work here is done… (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5q1dnd)

😉

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Grenfell Tower will forever stand as a rebuke to the right

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/grenfell-tower-rebuke-right-rampant-inequality

^ this is well worth a read.

It should also stand a reason for why you need fire alarms and in a high rise like that building, a sprinkler system. I have to believe many lives could have been saved if the building had those things.

Indeed, seems to make more sense spending money of sprinklers and alarm systems - rather than on dangerous (and banned in other countries) cladding - so the rich people opposite don’t have to look at an ugly tower block.

Amazing in this day and age - and for the past 30 years or so - the UK hasn’t made it law for social housing or buildings with more than x amount of people in, that it must have sprinklers (or other fire-suppression systems) and building-wide alarms.

Hopefully we’ll see a review of building materials used and being used - and how dangerous they could potentially be. We’d do well to look at and learn from other countries laws and systems they have in place as a starting point (especially Germany, where there are many high-rise towers - and they have already banned low-resistant materials and also those materials which become toxic when exposed to heat/fire).

‘Grenfell Tower residents complained two years ago of ‘cheap materials and corner cutting’ in block’s refurbishment’:-

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-residents-fears-warnings-ignored-kensington-chelsea-borough-council-tmo-a7794086.html

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Theresa May interview on BBC Newsnight earlier tonight - still no empathy, responsibility or much compassion - and yet a continued refusal to answer or even address the questions asked - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftY1NlPk5YY

Grenfell Tower will forever stand as a rebuke to the right

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/grenfell-tower-rebuke-right-rampant-inequality

^ this is well worth a read.

Ryan McAvoy said:

I don’t always agree with MP David Lammy but I really got choked up with this speech from the heart, that he gave to Channel-4 News this evening, on the Grenfell fire and cuts to the welfare state…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dISZpogzV_I

Channel-4 have done a sterling job covering this tragedy. Another video interviewing rapper Akala who as always, says it like it is…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9NWK7VOLig

Real anger today directed at the local Tory council and Tory Prime Minister May, as she has seemingly tried to avoided speaking directly to the distraught residents (Something the leader of the opposition, the Mayor and The Queen have done). Protests outside Downing Street too. I hope the anger doesn’t escalate out of control. I was there on the street when the 2011 London riots started kicking off and it was scary to see.

Top post mate - unlike the BBC and Sky and much of the other media, Channel 4 still give a shit about the people involved in the news they broadcast. You can see it in their selection of presenters working for the channel, their questions, their compassion, their questioning of authority/those responsible.

They don’t patronise, or silence or shush people, look down on them, set an agenda or steer them to their political bias - unlike the others.

I lived in a tower block like Grenfell back in '94 to 2001 - fortunately all the work carried out on it back then was by council employees (skilled and experienced tradesman - apprentices under their guidance, bar the odd bad apple) - the work was quality and you knew there’d be little-to-no shortcuts, or corners cut on costs or safety. Council Clerk Of Works would have to sign off on any work - and there was no way they would sign off on anything substandard - they’d get the tradesmen back in to complete or re-do the job whilst standing over them if they did - I even saw on the odd occasion Clerks forcing tradesmen to apologise to tenants for some sloppy sub-standard work before signing off on their work.

Now it’s all sub-contractors and private companies with a mindset of profit - lowest quote wins - despite the quality and safety which gets overlooked. There are now so few Clerk of Works I’m not even sure they have to sign off on sub-contractors work. Instead of hiring more Clerks to ensure quality and safety during that time - the councils, through cuts and pressure from these private companies, got rid of many of them.

Self-assessment by the contractors - or their sub-contractors was and is the order of the day - as well as ignoring tenant’s complaints or putting out PR spin or pre-prepared messages saying they ahdere to the highest quality and safety requirements and are doing quality work - which we all know is bullshit.

The block I lived in wasn’t in a nice estate, the building was a 60’s concrete tower block, there was high unemployment, drugs, gangs, high crime, police collusion with dealers and escorts. But I felt safe - I’d hate to live in a block like that now - given what has happened over the years with the cuts to the councils (and emergency services) through ‘austerity’, and the proliferation of these often shoddy sub-contractors. I certainly wouldn’t feel safe living there now.

Really hope these terrible events force a re-think not only on the safety of social housing - but also the upkeep and the way contractors are given work on them. Profit before people hasn’t, doesn’t and will never work - and only ends one way - at the expense of the people using them.

(my rant over 😉)

a video of Justice For Grenfell Protesters marching towards Downing Street - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8aY8pufZ7c

and ‘Ishmail speaks reality to a sky news presenter GTR’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcJPlkqOYX0

^ both sum up how a fair few people are feeling at the moment.

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Cladding for Grenfell Tower was cheaper, more flammable option…

(Omnis Exteriors asked to supply cladding £2 cheaper a square metre than fire-resistant type, investigation finds)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/manufacturer-of-cladding-on-grenfell-tower-identified-as-omnis-exteriors

 

& more despicable actions from The S*n…

S*n journalist ‘impersonated Grenfell Tower victim’s relative at hospital’…

(King’s College hospital launches complaint with watchdog over behaviour of Sun reporter)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/sun-journalist-grenfell-tower-victim-hospital

Have I heard correctly that the building that burned down had no sprinkler systems and no fire alarms?

You heard right mate - there were no sprinkler systems - and going on the article below…

'Several residents said they did not hear a building-wide alarm. One man said the first thing he heard was the sirens of emergency vehicles. How was the building’s alarm system set up?

More than one resident has claimed there was no central fire alarm system for the tower block – or that it had failed – and only smoke alarms in individual flats were working. Were they battery operated or hard-wired into the system? Board minutes suggest installing hard-wired fire alarms had been planned.’

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/14/key-questions-about-the-grenfell-tower-fire

Thankfully it was Ramadan at the time of the fire breaking out - and several Muslims (awake and sitting down to have meals) in the area raised the alarm - http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-tower-fire-muslims-breaking-ramadan-fast-saved-everyone-when-alarms-failed-a3565081.html

London fire: Protests grow as fire anger increases:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40298473

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Grenfell Tower fire: protesters march as anger mounts over disaster response – live:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/16/grenfell-tower-fire-london-police-criminal-investigation-into-tragedy-latest-updates

I knew there were more surviving Jedi out there…

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jeremy-Corbyn-action-figure-/182613985056

Cladding for Grenfell Tower was cheaper, more flammable option…

(Omnis Exteriors asked to supply cladding £2 cheaper a square metre than fire-resistant type, investigation finds)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/manufacturer-of-cladding-on-grenfell-tower-identified-as-omnis-exteriors

& more despicable actions from The S*n…

S*n journalist ‘impersonated Grenfell Tower victim’s relative at hospital’…

(King’s College hospital launches complaint with watchdog over behaviour of Sun reporter)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/sun-journalist-grenfell-tower-victim-hospital

Manic Street Preachers - Generation Terrorists

Lord Haseo said:

oojason said:

Darth Id said:

oojason said:

^ That’s likely someone’s mum,

Yeah, she probably spawned some cretin worse than she.

someone’s wife,

You mean the guy that helped conceive her cretinous, gluttonous, waste-of-space spawn?

someone’s daughter,

Some pile of rotting flesh, who’s more tolerable dead than alive. Actually, two of those.

someone’s neighbour,

Believe me, her neighbors wish she was dead more than Haseo does!

someone’s colleague,

Do all welfare parasites qualify as “colleagues” of each other? Then I’m guessing not a “colleague.”

someone’s friend,

Poor bastard probably wishes he were dead…

someone…

Nope. Nobody.

Is that it? I thought you were meant to be the OT forum troll?, and that’s all you can come up with? It’s not even worthy of a decent retort.

Haseo at least came up with his own inferred and deliberate misinterpretation of what I was saying (whilst ignoring the other main points - as he has so far demonstrated he can’t seemingly think before hitting the keyboard and shifting from ‘I hope she’s dead’ onto ‘bending laws of reality’ - and would like to steer the conversation further away from his original post) - but your reply, just meh…

You said I was backtracked… now provide the sentence prior to you saying that (or even after for shits and giggles) of me somehow pivoting on any of my points. If you can’t substantiate your claims then we have nothing else to discuss.

And I ignored the sentimental stuff for a reason.

Your posts are there for all to see - and you continue your backtracking and excuses/‘reasoning’ since.

If you can’t see it then that’s on you - try thinking more (or re-reading your previous posts - and edits) before posting.

Though your efforts to continue to deflect are wasted on me - as I won’t be wasting any more time on your posts. But you carry on - deflecting and backtracking away…

Alderaan said:

Theresa May visited the site of the burned out Grenfell Towers–where 17 fatalities have been confirmed and scores more are feared dead–for a photo-op with firefighters.

She declined to meet any of the victims or survivors.

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/15/theresa-may-avoids-survivors-grenfell-tower-fire-visit-scene-disaster/

Scum of the earth. Sorry to our British friends who have to live with her.

Theresa May Snubs Grenfell Tower Survivors As Jeremy Corbyn Is Mobbed In Street:-

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/theresa-may-grenfell-tower-survivors-jeremy-corbyn_uk_59426df4e4b09ad4fbe58141

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A lot of people are asking why Theresa May couldn’t spare time to meet Grenfell Tower residents:-

http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/15/a-lot-of-people-are-asking-why-theresa-may-couldnt-spare-time-to-meet-grenfell-tower-residents-6711249/

Hopefully she won’t be PM for much longer.

Theresa May’s chief of staff ‘sat on’ report warning high-rise blocks like Grenfell Tower were vulnerable to fire:-

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-mays-chief-staff-sat-10620357

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Experts warned government against cladding material used on Grenfell:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/15/experts-warned-government-against-cladding-material-used-on-grenfell

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Police launch criminal inquiry into Grenfell Tower blaze:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/15/grenfell-tower-police-fear-they-will-not-be-able-to-identify-all-the-dead

Darth Id said:

oojason said:

^ That’s likely someone’s mum,

Yeah, she probably spawned some cretin worse than she.

someone’s wife,

You mean the guy that helped conceive her cretinous, gluttonous, waste-of-space spawn?

someone’s daughter,

Some pile of rotting flesh, who’s more tolerable dead than alive. Actually, two of those.

someone’s neighbour,

Believe me, her neighbors wish she was dead more than Haseo does!

someone’s colleague,

Do all welfare parasites qualify as “colleagues” of each other? Then I’m guessing not a “colleague.”

someone’s friend,

Poor bastard probably wishes he were dead…

someone…

Nope. Nobody.

Is that it? I thought you were meant to be the OT forum troll?, and that’s all you can come up with? It’s not even worthy of a decent retort.

Haseo at least came up with his own inferred and deliberate misinterpretation of what I was saying (whilst ignoring the other main points - as he has so far demonstrated he can’t seemingly think before hitting the keyboard and shifting from ‘I hope she’s dead’ onto ‘bending laws of reality’ - and would like to steer the conversation further away from his original post) - but your reply, just meh…

Lord Haseo - ‘I hope she’s dead’

later followed by ‘No one like that adds anything to society nor the relationships they have cultivated. I don’t think it’s harsh at all when you think about it in that way.’

^ That’s likely someone’s mum, someone’s wife, someone’s daughter, someone’s neighbour, someone’s colleague, someone’s friend, someone…

Seems you don’t think much at all, certainly not before posting that hate-filled line of yours, and not during your backtracking and excuses/‘reasoning’ since.

teharri said:

Hello everyone. I am not new to this site, but I am to this thread. I like all of the work I see posted here. I am always looking for great Saga series posters. I have all of the SW films streaming on PLEX and I looking to have a similar style for all 8 films. Does anyone know if someone has made a series of posters for all of the Star Wars films? The only ones I can find involve covers that focus on shadows or locations.

This thread may be of interest to you mate:-

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/KodiMedia-Center-Posters/id/54292

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http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Steelbook-Villain-Posters-for-AOTC-and-Rogue-One/id/54745

and also the ‘HD Box size covers’ thread, here - http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Blu-Ray-and-other-HD-box-size-STAR-WARS-covers/id/11843

and there maybe some art of interest in the ‘Awesome SW Art’ thread, here - http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Awesome-Star-Wars-art-pic-heavy/id/47273
 

Good luck - hope you find what you are looking for…

and if you do find some other quality plex/media centre style covers please post up a link to them - thanks 😃

SilverWook said:

Sad to have to say this again, but I hope all our UK members are safe and sound.

Hard to believe such a thing could happen in a building in a modern city.

Horrific, mate.

Fair play to all those offering spare rooms, clothes, food and toiletries in and around the nearby area to the Grenfell Block residents.

And to the emergency services too.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/grenfell-tower-fire

According to fleeing residents there was no building-wide alarm heard, no sprinklers, and a ‘stay put’ fire advice strategy in place.

Seems to be a lot of people missing/unaccounted for - unfortunately as the fire started just after 1am, many may have been asleep - I really hope not, though. Hopefully many escaped and are ‘just’ in shock or with friends/family etc.

TV’s Frink said:

^ inserts the ‘blew his socks off’ gag here 😉