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#1082677
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

hairy_hen said:

Well it’s exactly as I predicted, except that the Silly Party won.

Election Night Special

Myself, I voted for Tarquin Fin-Tim-Lim-Bim-Whin-Bim-Lim-Bus-Stop-F’tang-F’tang-Ole’-Biscuitbarrel.

😄

 

in separate news…

Jeremy Corbyn’s performance inspires Bernie Sanders supporters to ask once again: ‘What if?’…

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/corbyn-bernie-sanders-election-result-uk-labour-left-wing-policies-he-could-have-won-beat-trump-a7782421.html

I hope he runs again - or at least someone like him…

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#1082587
Topic
What is your preferred browser? For Mobile; for Desktop? Why?
Time

Tyrphanax said:

Windows Phone is incredible. Best phone I’ve ever owned. I help my dad with his Android phone every now and then and it’s such a frustrating locked down piece of garbage OS.

They’re pushing some new updates for Windows (10 and 10 Mobile) lately that have all been pretty great in my opinion.

Yeah, just don’t install that recently released build 16212 update from MS…

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/02/microsoft_dev_build_snafu_bricks_your_phone/

(as ever with The Reg articles - the comments section is always worth a read 😃)

and that’s not to say that Windows phones aren’t decent - the more choices we as consumers have, the better 😃

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#1082585
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

A question for you Ukers:

What would have happened if the Conservatives had won a majority of the seats of Parliament, but Theresa May lost her own seat?

The Tories would then hold a leadership election - their MP’s vote for the leader of their party (IIRC). Usually the PM is in one of the safest seats in the country - can’t recall a PM ever losing their own seat - but could happen…

I don’t understand, why would the Tories hold a leadership election? I said in my question that the Conservatives won a majority number of seats. So, wouldn’t be the Conservatives holding a leadership election?

Sorry Warbler mate - I should have made it clear that Conservatives and Tories are one and the same thing (as ywhx correctly pointed out).

 

I will pass on your earlier apology to Lord Buckethead - though I think he’ll likely say he’ll forgive you if you go watch his oscar-worthy Gremloids/Hyperspace film from 1984 😉

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#1082572
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

CatBus said:

oojason said:

and a lot more to Theresa May’s friends than that, sadly…

Turns out you’ve got a case of the Trumps too. If Penicillin doesn’t clear it up soon, you have our condolences.

I’ve got the bleach, a scrubbing brush, penicillin, alcohol, The Holiday Special, Gremloids, and several showers to try and get rid of it 😉

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#1082570
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Bingowings said:

Lord Buckethead has a long history of being defeated by gorgons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ0o84yyutQ
And of course a feature film https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperspace_(film)

I’d forgotten about Lord Buckthead’s long and illustrious past - about time there was another film, maybe a reboot? 😉

Full film available here (or most of it) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI0i2YwYABY 😃

https://www.buckethead4maidenhead.com/fandom/

 

Ryan McAvoy said:

Democracy is a good thing but you can have too much of a good thing…

September 2014 - Scottish independence referendum
May 2015 - United Kingdom general election
May 2015 - United Kingdom local elections
May 2016 - Scottish Parliament election
June 2016 - United Kingdom European Union membership referendum
May 2017 - United Kingdom local elections
June 2017 - United Kingdom general election

Only joking but seriously if there is another Indie-Ref, another Brexit vote and another GE this year, I’ll be like the famous Brenda from Bristol…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6-IQAdFU3w

Never stops being funny. That lady summed up the feelings of the whole country in a few seconds.

See in October for the 2nd General Election of the year mate - with Brenda too 😉

 

in other news Labour won Kensington (result finally announced earlier tonight) - the Tories had a near 8,000 majority there back in 2015.

 

Seems the Scottish Tories are distancing themselves from the DUP already (wouldn’t be too surprised to see some English or Welsh Tories join them).

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#1082463
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

SilverWook said:

oojason said:

SilverWook said:

oojason said:

on the lighter side of politics…

https://twitter.com/LordBuckethead/status/873019060195405824

a shame Mr Buckethead ‘only’ managed 249 votes vs Theresa May in Maidenhead - though he is now free for panto and Dr Who appearances 😉

^ just for clarity - Lord Buckethead is in the black suit, just to the right of the emotionless robot with views from another world in the red suit.

 

‘Everything you need to know about Lord Buckethead’…

http://io9.gizmodo.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-lord-buckethead-the-1795957578

 
point 3 of his manifesto - ‘no 3rd runway at Heathrow Airport - where we’re going we don’t need runways

https://twitter.com/scottbix/status/873014998179745794
https://twitter.com/scottbix/status/873014998179745794/photo/1

Your lunatic fringe candidates are way more fun than ours.

Lord Buckethead looks like the Black Knight from Holy Grail and Darth Vader’s love child.

😄 'Tis only a scratch 😉

Elmo from the Muppets was also there - sadly he only got 3 votes.

The real Elmo? I knew he was evil. It was a dark day on Sesame St. when he took over the show and stole the limelight away from my beloved Grover.

Cookie Monster and his British cousin, Biscuit Monster, hopefully have this covered mate 😃

 

of course Mr Fishfinger was there at the election too…

^ he got 309 votes 😃

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#1082454
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

A question for you Ukers:

What would have happened if the Conservatives had won a majority of the seats of Parliament, but Theresa May lost her own seat?

The Tories would then hold a leadership election - their MP’s vote for the leader of their party (IIRC). Usually the PM is in one of the safest seats in the country - can’t recall a PM ever losing their own seat - but could happen…

From 2010 (but still applies) - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8497014.stm#lose

Labour members (any member of the public who signs up to join the Labour Party can vote on the leader)

Sorry mate - I’ve no idea on the other parties’ leaders how how they elect them.

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#1082450
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

SilverWook said:

oojason said:

on the lighter side of politics…

https://twitter.com/LordBuckethead/status/873019060195405824

a shame Mr Buckethead ‘only’ managed 249 votes vs Theresa May in Maidenhead - though he is now free for panto and Dr Who appearances 😉

^ just for clarity - Lord Buckethead is in the black suit, just to the right of the emotionless robot with views from another world in the red suit.

 

‘Everything you need to know about Lord Buckethead’…

http://io9.gizmodo.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-lord-buckethead-the-1795957578

 
point 3 of his manifesto - ‘no 3rd runway at Heathrow Airport - where we’re going we don’t need runways

https://twitter.com/scottbix/status/873014998179745794
https://twitter.com/scottbix/status/873014998179745794/photo/1

Your lunatic fringe candidates are way more fun than ours.

Lord Buckethead looks like the Black Knight from Holy Grail and Darth Vader’s love child.

😄 'Tis only a scratch 😉

Elmo from the Muppets was also there - sadly he only got 3 votes.

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#1082448
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

CatBus said:

Just read up on the DUP. Not sure any situation that increases their power can be considered a good thing. Hope their alliance with the Tories proves fragile, or at least ineffectual.

Most of us in the UK too mate.

this sums up how far the Tories have sunk to get in bed with the DUP… (despite her, her Party and the right wing media being very keen to try and incorrectly link with Corbyn have links with the IRA since he became leader of the Labour Party and throughout the Election)

https://twitter.com/liamyoung/status/873146824059760642

 

and some interesting comments from Jonathan Powell - former chief British negotiator on Northern Ireland - explaining how a Tory/DUP coalition cannot work in a Sky News interview, and also that John Major, when he was PM and struggling, refused to go ‘into an alliance’ with the DUP and why…

https://twitter.com/EL4JC/status/873188501990371330 (video in link)

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#1082338
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

on the lighter side of politics…

https://twitter.com/LordBuckethead/status/873019060195405824

a shame Mr Buckethead ‘only’ managed 249 votes vs Theresa May in Maidenhead - though he is now free for panto and Dr Who appearances 😉

^ just for clarity - Lord Buckethead is in the black suit, just to the right of the emotionless robot with views from another world in the red suit.

 

‘Everything you need to know about Lord Buckethead’…

http://io9.gizmodo.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-lord-buckethead-the-1795957578

 
point 3 of his manifesto - ‘no 3rd runway at Heathrow Airport - where we’re going we don’t need runways

https://twitter.com/scottbix/status/873014998179745794
https://twitter.com/scottbix/status/873014998179745794/photo/1

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#1082337
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Bingowings said:

Bingowings said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

CatBus said:

this is really more about getting May out from under that “temporary caretaker government” shadow after Cameron left?

I don’t think she is seen as a “temporary caretaker government” at all, she was the overwhelmingly popular candidate for Party Leader/PM. I think it’s more about shutting up dissenting voices (of all parties) in Parliament of the “Yes we agree you’ve got a mandate for Brexit, Prime Minister… but not this kind of Brexit!” variety. She’s going to ask the country clearly and directly “Do you want a Brexit on my terms?”. The electorate will most probably answer, “Yes please!” emphatically and she can get on with the business of doing just that.

CatBus said:

Is my understanding correct that this isn’t really expected to change anything substantive? i.e. the people, parliamentary percentages, policies, etc, aren’t really expected to change much at all

Not really, I think things will change quite a bit because the Labour opposition party will most likely be wiped out due in large part to how deeply unpopular their leader (and cabinet) is, which I’m sad to say is probably for their own good in the medium to long term. Hopefully the Lib-Dem party will get back some seats after they were annihilated at the last election.

I think the general consensus is that the Conservative party will win.
This is possibly a misjudgement. When Gordon Brown the most unpopular PM for aeons finally got around to doing what May is doing here after inheriting a gulf war mess from Blair all the Tories could manage was a coalition. They were expected to lose the last election or have to make another coalition with UKIP or some other party.
The secret ingrediant to their majority was Brexit. UKIPers flipped sides to insure they got the referendum. Scotland evicted Labour for supporting the Conservatives and the Liberals lost their nice guy image propping up the Tories in coalition and breaking their manifesto pledges.
We have now a slightly different world. Brexit has happenend, it can’t unhappen so UKIP doesn’t need to exist anymore. Austerity isn’t working and isn’t popular. The SNP need someone the can do business with in Downing Street and May is not that PM.
Corbyn has always been anti-EU (just like Tony Benn). The old Labour zealots that voted Tory to get Brexit may return to the fold now that Brexit is unavoidable. The people that voted Tory as a protest against Blair and Brown will now vote Green rather than vote for the Tories.
My prediction Corbyn will suprise everyone by narrowly winning with the remainers voting against the Conservatives with the same zeal that the Brexiteers voted for them.
That’s if he stays of the hills and doesn’t have a heart attack.

Close but no cigar.

a few seats off a coalition of the left and centrist parties mate - better than most of us thought.

And a clear message sent to the Tories that they’ll have to change if they want as many seats next time, as well being possible to run a decent andeffective anti-austerity campaign by the values of ‘old’ left of Labour.

and not sure a Tory coalition with the DUP will last…

https://twitter.com/liamyoung/status/873146824059760642

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#1082276
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

CatBus said:

Please explain the implications of all this to some people here who would rather focus on anyone else’s government right now, but don’t know how to interpret it.

The Conservative Party, under Theresa May, called a snap election (something which she consistently said she wouldn’t do previously) - expecting to romp home and get an even larger majority than the 17 seats she had, basically with a strong mandate to go to Europe and negotiate Brexit…

The Labour Party was supposedly in trouble; lots of infighting and it’s leader Corbyn being unpopular among many other Labour MP’s - but a strong grassroots support and winning 2 leadership elections.

It has been a massive miscalculation by Theresa May. She hasn’t campaigned well at all, whilst Labour - under Corbyn - did, and did it very well.

 

The Conservatives have lost power - it IS officially a hung Parliament…

 

The Conservatives are still the largest Party - but WILL need the back-up of the right-wing DUP (from Northern Ireland) to be able to get a majority vs the other combined Parties.

Labour could form a coalition of left/centrist/independent Parties to obstruct near on anything they wished - IF they get a couple of objections from the Tory/DUP - a position no-one thought possible at the start of this election.

 

The Tories did surprisingly well in Scotland - which is an unexpected bonus for them. However, it does seem a lot of Tory MP’s aren’t happy with Theresa May - even before tonight’s results - a couple have openly asked her to ‘consider her position’. Ironically she campaigned on ‘strong and stable’ leadership!

A few Tory big names lost their seats too - and that big result Theresa May was hoping for when she called this snap election has not materialised - and has only damaged them - despite a very big push from the majority right-wing press for her.

More results to come of course…

One thing is certain - Labour, under Jeremy Corbyn, running on an anti-austerity campaign, have certainly done better than nearly everyone expected. Even winning in Tory strongholds like Canterbury (who have been Tory for 99 years).

For the US users on here Corbyn is a bit more left than Bernie Sanders - something which the Labour Party was once a fair few years ago (socialist-based) - and something many ‘modern’ aspects of the Labour Party fought against - though will now be very likely backing…

 

Any Party needs 326 seats for a majority (there are 650 MP’s in the House Of Commons):-

All the results have now been announced…

Tories are on 318 seats, losing 13 seats.
Labour are on 262 seats, gaining 30 seats.
SNP (Scottish National Party) are on 35 seats, losing 21 seats.
Liberal Democrats are on 12 seats, gaining 4 seats.
DUP (Democratic Unionist Party) are on 10 seats, gaining 2 seats.
Sinn Fein are on 7 seats, gaining 3 seats.
Plaid Cymru (Wales) are on 4 seats, gaining 1 seat.
Green Party have 1 seat.
Others (independent) are on 1 seat, losing 2 seats.

UKIP lost their only seat - so now have 0 seats.
Social Democratic & Labour Party lost 3 seats - and now have 0 seats.
Ulster Unionist Party lost 2 seats - and now have 0 seats.

 

Sinn Fein now have 7 MP’s - though they do not sit in Parliament as they oppose Westminster’s jurisdiction in Northern Ireland and its oath to the Queen - so its MPs abstain from sitting in parliament.

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#1082259
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Labour doing well in the UK elections - looking like a minority/hung Govt - so far…

Amber Rudd, the Home Secretary, is looking like she will lose her seat too (she’s demanded 3 recounts) 😃

Education Secretary Justine Greening held her seat - but the majority dropped from 10,000 to 1500

Tory minister Jane Ellison loses in Battersea to Labour.

Tories have won in Angus - some say they may do ok in Scotland - and parts of Wales…

Labour have taken 4 seats from the Tories so far (very early days though)

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#1082189
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Ryan McAvoy said:

The whole world today…

oojason said:

A Message for Donald Trump from Former Mexican President Vicente Fox…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZKrn7Bbl8

😄

I thought it was brilliant - and quite funny too

That was the most savage burn since what PS4 did to XBoxOne…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

😃

 

an handy guide for election result announcements in the UK - and what time they will (or should be) be announced…

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/08/what-time-does-each-constituency-declare-its-results-in-the-2017-general-election

(UK times obviously 😉)

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#1082154
Topic
Last song you listened to.
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Sougouk said:

oojason said:

Sougouk said:

The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UQK-UcRezE

50 years on and still a beautiful song mate - like so many of theirs are - seemingly timeless 😃

 

one from Paul, from 1970… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm2YyVZBL8U

Yes, it’s a great song from Paul.
Here’s a fun song from Ringo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-BdGchS0yk

Ringo certainly has that Scouse humour in him still 😃

one song by George - performed by others in tribute to him - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y