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Post: #55999
Topic: All Of The OT Formats & Releases...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55999/action/topic#55999
Time: 25-Jul-2004 3:20 PM

Hopefully this'll help out anyone wondering about all the differing formats and releases for 'home viewing' of the Original Trilogy out there...

Info taken from the excellent http://www.davisdvd.com website (mainly USA releases and dates):-

It's worth checking out the links themselves as they have the Picture Covers (very cool) of each of the releases...

http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep4.htm

http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep5.htm

http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep6.htm

http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep_misc.htm

"Star Wars : Episode IV - A New Hope

? RELEASE DATE: May 1982
? STUDIO: 20th Century Fox Video
? RELEASE FORMATS: VHS, Betamax
? COMMENTS: This first home video release was for rental only and was unavailable for purchase
? TECHNICAL COMMENTS: Linear stereo audio (mono compatible)
? OTHER COMMENTS: Comes in a plastic case with "Video Rental Library" stickered labels on the front, back and spine

? RELEASE DATE: 1982
? STUDIO: 20th Century Fox Video & CBS/FOX
? RELEASE FORMAT: RCA CED
? COMMENTS: Released first under the 20th Century Fox Video logo, and then CBS/FOX (the rarer of the two)
? TECHNICAL COMMENTS: Pan & scan transfer; linear stereo audio (mono compatible)
? OTHER COMMENTS: The film is time-compressed to 116 min. to fit the 120 min. CED limit

? RELEASE DATE: 1982
? STUDIO: 20th Century Fox Video
? RELEASE FORMATS: VHS, Betamax
? COMMENTS: Repriced for consumer sale
? TECHNICAL COMMENTS: Linear stereo audio (mono compatible)
? OTHER COMMENTS: Comes with a side-opening "drawer" slipcase

? RELEASE DATE: 1982
? STUDIO: 20th Century Fox Video
? RELEASE FORMAT: Laserdisc
? COMMENTS: One Extended-Play CLV disc
? TECHNICAL COMMENTS: Pan & scan transfer; stereo sound
? OTHER COMMENTS: The film is time-compressed to 116 min. to fit the 120 min. CLV limit

? RELEASE DATE: 1982
? STUDIO: CBS/FOX
? RELEASE FORMATS: VHS, Betamax
? COMMENTS: VHS/Beta re-release #1 (under new CBS/FOX logo)
? TECHNICAL COMMENTS: Stereo audio (mono compatible)
? OTHER COMMENTS: Comes with a side-opening "drawer" slipcase with the VHS/Beta logo on the spine in a die-cut window

? RELEASE DATE: 1982
? STUDIO: CBS/FOX
? RELEASE FORMAT: Laserdisc
? COMMENTS: Released under new CBS/FOX logo, the Extended-Play CLV disc was also issued as a 3 platter Standard-Play CAV edition
? TECHNICAL COMMENTS: Pan & scan transfer; Stereo Surround sound
? OTHER COMMENTS: The film is time-compressed to 118 min. to fit the 120 min. CLV limit

? RELEASE DATE: 1983
? STUDIO: CBS/FOX
? RELEASE FORMATS: VHS, Betamax
? COMMENTS: VHS/Beta re-release #2
? TECHNICAL COMMENTS: Audio upgraded to HiFi Stereo (mono compatible)
? OTHER COMMENTS: Now comes in the regular open-bottom VHS slip cover

? RELEASE DATE: 1984
? STUDIO: CBS/FOX
? RELEASE FORMAT: VHS
? COMMENTS: VHS re-release #3
? OTHER COMMENTS: This is the first home video version to include C-3PO's line "The tractor beam is coupled to the main reactor in seven locations. A power loss at one of the terminals will allow the ship to leave."

? RELEASE DATE: 1986
? STUDIO: CBS/FOX
? RELEASE FORMAT: VHS
? COMMENTS: VHS re-release #4
? OTHER COMMENTS: Same as the 1984 VHS release (even with identical ? markings) except with a trilogy commercial added after the feature

? RELEASE DATE: 1987
? STUDIO: CBS/FOX
? RELEASE FORMAT: VHS
? COMMENTS: VHS re-release #5
? OTHER COMMENTS: 1977-1987 Trilogy Anniversary commercial added at start of tape

? RELEASE DATE: 1989
? STUDIO: CBS/FOX
? RELEASE FORMAT: Laserdisc
? COMMENTS: The first domestic letterboxed (2.35:1) edition
? OTHER COMMENTS: This laserdisc edition does contain C-3PO's dialogue in the Death Star control room ("The tractor beam is coupled to the main reactor in seven locations. A power loss at one of the terminals will allow the ship to leave."). The film is spread over 3 sides of 2 Extended-Play CLV discs and is housed in a gatefold jacket

? RELEASE DATE: 1990
? STUDIO: CBS/FOX
? RELEASE FORMATS: VHS, Betamax
? COMMENTS: VHS re-release #6
? OTHER COMMENTS: New package design with a small picture of Vader on the side; Trilogy commercial ('77-'87 anniversary?) at start of tape; Also comes bundled up into the Trilogy Slipcase box set

? RELEASE DATE: 1992
? STUDIO: CBS/FOX
? RELEASE FORMAT: VHS
? COMMENTS: "Special Collector's Edition" letterbox edition (taken from 1989 LD transfer)
? OTHER COMMENTS: Available separately or in a navy blue box set that includes "From SW to Jedi" tape, book, certificate and a hologram of 1977 artwork on the box.

? RELEASE DATE: 1993
? STUDIO: Fox Video
? RELEASE FORMAT: THX Certified Laserdisc
? COMMENTS: Mammoth 9-CAV disc (SRP $250) remastered Trilogy "Definitive Collection" with tons and tons of extras, audio commentaries, trailers, interviews, storyboards, The Creative Impulse hardcover book and more!
? TECHNICAL COMMENTS: New THX digital picture and sound remasters; letterbox (2.35:1)
? OTHER COMMENTS: The new sound mix created for this edition (supervised by Ben Burtt) is once again missing C3PO's "tractor beam" dialogue

? RELEASE DATE: 1995
? STUDIO: Fox Video
? RELEASE FORMATS: VHS
? COMMENTS: New previews; interview with Leonard Maltin and George Lucas; advertised as "the last chance to own the original trilogy"
? TECHNICAL COMMENTS: New THX digital picture and sound remasters; pan & scan versions available separately or in a box set; letterboxed version only available in the slipcase box set
? OTHER COMMENTS: Box set variations: (1) tapes slid out from the right side (2) box had lift-up flap and was made from an entirely different cardboard stock.

? RELEASE DATE: 1995
? STUDIO: Fox Video
? RELEASE FORMAT: THX Certified Laserdisc
? COMMENTS: New previews; interview with Leonard Maltin and George Lucas; "The last chance to own the original version of Star Wars"
? TECHNICAL COMMENTS: New THX digital picture and sound remasters; letterbox (2.35:1)
? OTHER COMMENTS: Uses the same letterbox transfer as the CAV Definitive Collection, only presented on 2 CLV discs (gatefold jacket)

? RELEASE DATE: 1995
? STUDIO: Fox Video
? RELEASE FORMAT: VHS
? COMMENTS: The Executor Box Set: a limited numbered edition tin box set (20,000) released in the UK. Contains THX widescreen VHS tapes of all three films, 'From Star Wars To Jedi - The Making Of A Saga' documentary, 5 hours of supplemental material, scripts for all three movies, three video art prints, six matte painting prints, booklet, and a numbered certificate of authenticity
? TECHNICAL COMMENTS: These PAL VHS tapes use the letterbox transfers made for laserdisc
? OTHER COMMENTS: Supplements include: The Making Of Star Wars, SPFX Empire - The Making Of The Empire Strikes Back, Classic Creatures - The Making Of Return Of The Jedi, From Star Wars To Jedi - The Making Of A Saga, Original Teaser & Release Trailers From All 3 Movies, Interviews With George Lucas, The Lucasfilm Archive Tour, The Star Wars Gallery With Ralph McQuarrie, Sound Advice: An Interview With Ben Burtt, How Walkers Walk: Stop Motion Workshop Footage - Narrated By Dennis Muren, The Flight Throu

Post: #55953
Topic: Changes in 2004 DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55953/action/topic#55953
Time: 25-Jul-2004 3:36 AM

Also at ml.com the running times for the OT films (in PAL format - a 4% difference to NTSC run times):-

Original Trilogy:
ANH: 1h 58min
TESB: 2h
ROTJ: 2h 4min

Special Edition:
ANH: 2h
TESB: 2h 2min
ROTJ: 2h 10min

DVD -trilogy:
ANH: 2h
TESB: 2h 4min
ROTJ: 2h 11min

Post: #55885
Topic: Lost footage...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55885/action/topic#55885
Time: 24-Jul-2004 8:35 AM

The Lost Clones footage info (from AOTC) - http://www.geocities.com/mrghoul_01/

Very clear and concise info - well worth a look at...

Post: #55883
Topic: Changes in 2004 DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55883/action/topic#55883
Time: 24-Jul-2004 7:35 AM

Cheers Hardcore Legend

Just d'ling the video now - damn my infernal dial connection...

Post: #55874
Topic: Changes in 2004 DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55874/action/topic#55874
Time: 24-Jul-2004 5:18 AM

^ any links m8?

Post: #55847
Topic: Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55847/action/topic#55847
Time: 23-Jul-2004 8:12 PM

^ Give Rikter a buzz m8 - most of his SW stuff is on the 1st post on the 1st page in this thread.

Post: #55850
Topic: The ultimate editorial to GL
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55850/action/topic#55850
Time: 23-Jul-2004 2:28 PM

I don't know much about the Holiday Special - but did GL actually make it himself (was he in charge?). If so, I'm surprised he hasn't gone back and done his vision of the film he wanted to do but the technology wasn't available at the time...

It does make me wonder if GL is aware of how many people own the Theatrical Edition of the OT on DVDr now... and how many more would get them if they knew where to look.

Post: #55849
Topic: That Feeling
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55849/action/topic#55849
Time: 23-Jul-2004 2:17 PM

Did anyone have the DeathStar? - it was a huge almost cardboard-like thing of which half the outer shell was removeable to reveal some corridors and other rooms in it.

(I think it was an official product - some kid in my class brought it into primary school, must've been around 8-9 at the time so my memory may be failing me a bit)

Post: #55848
Topic: I'm thinking lawsuit...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55848/action/topic#55848
Time: 23-Jul-2004 2:14 PM

^ Like Ewan McGregor did whilst filming his sabre scenes for TPM?

Post: #55846
Topic: OT.com appearing in GQ Magazine in September
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55846/action/topic#55846
Time: 23-Jul-2004 2:08 PM

Great news Jay - keep up the good work.

Post: #55775
Topic: Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55775/action/topic#55775
Time: 22-Jul-2004 9:02 PM

Cheers Fluke (sorry for the name error - tis late here in the UK and I'm too tired and too old to be typing stuff. lol)

Post: #55771
Topic: Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55771/action/topic#55771
Time: 22-Jul-2004 8:34 PM

Flash - how easy is (or was) it for a projectionist of dubious standing to erm... make a decent copy of a film (or off the print itself) whilst engaging in your previous line of work?

Post: #55768
Topic: Star Wars DVD Covers
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55768/action/topic#55768
Time: 22-Jul-2004 8:17 PM

MagnoliaFan - I posted a thread on the SW offal BBS about your 2 Edits here:-

http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jsp?forum=20&thread=80513&start=45&msRange=15

There are a couple people interested in seeing them - is it ok to post your email address there and point them in your direction?

Post: #55777
Topic: Could This Be True or Just An Elaborate Hoax?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55777/action/topic#55777
Time: 22-Jul-2004 3:13 PM

R2 - LMAO.

When I got the MagnoliaFan Edits of Eps 1 & 2 delivered I was excited like a little kid and immediately put Ep1 on - got a big tut and roll of the eyes from my missus, after a few minutes she's engrossed in them and no longer going shopping with her mates - and she put Ep2 on straight after. A few weeks later she's loaned them out to her mates (without telling me!!!) and now keeps asking questions about all things SW and 'how come it was so boring when she saw it at the cinmea?'

Sci-fi - good or bad does have strange effects on women...

Post: #55774
Topic: MagnoliaFan Edition Episode III-VI Titles
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55774/action/topic#55774
Time: 22-Jul-2004 2:59 PM

an Ep3 suggestion (found on SW offal BBS) - 'Mask Of Deception'

Something containing, or another word for 'deception' would be appropiate?

For Ep4 how about a title focusing on the Rebellion's 1st major victory of the Empire?

and perhaps for Ep6 '?' of the Jedi (? = another word for re-emergence)?

Post: #55769
Topic: Could This Be True or Just An Elaborate Hoax?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55769/action/topic#55769
Time: 22-Jul-2004 2:28 PM

It's strange - on one hand I can see no reason as to why GL would want to relive the Holiday Special in almost the same type of 'badness' that was the Holiday Special.

On the other hand - I wouldn't put it past him to try and have another go

R2 - how on earth did you come across that site?

Post: #55765
Topic: Could This Be True or Just An Elaborate Hoax?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55765/action/topic#55765
Time: 22-Jul-2004 2:12 PM

Erm...

words are failing me right now...

Post: #55741
Topic: The ultimate editorial to GL
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55741/action/topic#55741
Time: 22-Jul-2004 5:38 AM

Good sentiments from the guy at JediNet - though nobody is quite sure what the content of the dvd set is going to be, in regard to the commentaries (are they?).

Having the 3 directors (Kasdan standing in for RoTJ) would seem to be proper way of doing it - though if one of the other 2 were critical of GL in some way is GL the type of bloke to allow it on 'his' set? Or would it be edited out etc? Would the other 2 be ok with that, or demand that they are shown in full or not at all?

Having the 'Lost Cut' on there too would be great - though the amount of cut scenes GL has held back from Eps 1 & 2 on their dvd releases gives me the impression that there won't be - unless GL is planning some sort of bumper uncut scenes dvd to ocme out in a few years time. More likely is that there will be more tinkering with all of the films in the next batch of whatever edition GL is going to release in a few years - OR - that he deems the unseen stuff as unnecessary or unworthy and we'll only get to see it drip fed through his pay-net Hyperspace service, a la the failed Jedi mission to the control ship in AOTC.

With less than 2 months to go GL or his staff have let specualtion build as to what is on the latest set - how long they can keep the wall of silence going for is yet to be seen - personally I think the silence tells us not to get our hopes up... there is still more tinkring to come.

Post: #55732
Topic: Episode I-VI: Archival Editions
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55732/action/topic#55732
Time: 22-Jul-2004 3:22 AM

I think you smoked a lot of stuff last night?

...my brain is still taking some of your post in...

Cheers for the description of the Executor box-set lads - am I right in thinking it was a UK only release?

Post: #55683
Topic: Bootleg DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55683/action/topic#55683
Time: 21-Jul-2004 8:01 PM

The 2 MagnoliaFan Edits are in anamorphic format and sourced from DVDs.

They are well worth getting.

Post: #55690
Topic: Episode III Storyline
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55690/action/topic#55690
Time: 21-Jul-2004 3:19 PM

Cheers Luke, with a fair few Ep3 stories having the same course of events I'm surprised the Lucas 'Thought Police' Lawyers havn't been out and about - hmn...maybe GL has something a little different planned?

Post: #55689
Topic: Episode I-VI: Archival Editions
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55689/action/topic#55689
Time: 21-Jul-2004 2:57 PM

^ Well, at least you're in the right place if you ever feel the need to get 'em on dvd

I have often heard of the Executor Box-Set - in fact my m8 has one (tho it's still in it's wrapper and he hides it from me when I go around - prob petrified I may unwrap it or something! lol). Though I don't know much about it - apart from it goes for quite a sum on ebay and are obviously very rare.

Could you fill me in on the details and contents?

(one day someone'll do a thread with all the differnt available versions and thier formats... - that'd come in handy.)

Post: #55687
Topic: Episode I-VI: Archival Editions
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55687/action/topic#55687
Time: 21-Jul-2004 2:30 PM

die-jarjar-die - as a fellow UK'er I took great delight in seeing AOTC before our US friends and discussing all sorts of spoilers amongst other people who'd seen as well on the 'net. It's not often this happens...

It's good for a role reversal at times.

On a different matter, I love the Theatrical Version OT - and will gladly watch them over any other of Lucas' edits, though a list of further changes that possibly will be made by GL should not upset people here. GL will go on to tinker with each new home viewing format - he has done so in the past, he is doing it now and he will do so in the future.

Even after the 'Arhival Edition' or whatever they'llbe called I'm sure he'll go onto make further changes with each new passing home format - giving the fans the excuse that this was his vision and the new latest technology has only just made it possible for such and such a scene to exist...

All of which makes GL look an arse - and more of the fans will be disillusioned and join or begin thier own quest to get their preferred, or maybe even all, edits out on the latest format too.

Luckily for us, we already have a damn fine choice of dvds of the OT - and soon no doubt the quality of those will improve with the introduction of a good dual-layered dvd, and then it'll move onto the next newer format.

In the end Lucas has lost - the Theatrical Edit of the OT will be seen by an ever increasing group of people - it exist's now and it will exist for a long time after GL and many of us here have passed on.

Post: #55613
Topic: Star Wars DVD Covers
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55613/action/topic#55613
Time: 21-Jul-2004 12:54 PM

Rik - are you gonna do the basics for an Ep3 MagnoliaFan Edit cover too? lol - watching the 2 Edits has given me a new impetus to look forward to Ep3 in the cinema - sort of given me hope that EVEN if GL doesn't get it right there is a bloke out there who can do the job, and do it very well.

Look forward to you posting the discs (if poss) from the above set too - very fine selection.

Sweet 4 disc cover btw

Post: #55591
Topic: Star Wars DVD Covers
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55591/action/topic#55591
Time: 21-Jul-2004 9:31 AM

Rikter - those are fantastic m8, great work.

I'm SO gonna print them off for my 2 Edits - plus they'll match my 'Inksaver' OT set too!

Nice touches and praise to MagnoliaFan in the blurb too.

I havn't managed to get hold of MagnoliaFan on AIM yet - so havn't received his covers yet, but yours are damn impressive Rik.

Any news on the new MFE Ep2 subtitled disc?