oojason

moviefreakedmind said:

oojason said:

moviefreakedmind said:

oojason said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Troi is laughably ridiculous in Farpoint. What did she say at the end? “Good tidings and joy for all!” or something like that. SAD!

‘Great joy and gratitude…’ eurgh!

I did think ‘The Boy’ Wesley was going to end being Picard’s son in the first few seasons - Picard and Beverley always seemed have that awkward thing going on, and it seemed the obvious place for the writers to go with Picard really not liking children…

I didn’t think that was going to happen. It would’ve made Picard and Crusher seem like pretty big piles of shit to have an affair and let the child and man think that Beverly’s husband was his father.

You’re right - though it could have made for some interesting stories/arcs - especially given just how moral and ‘stiff’ Picard was in the early seasons.

That is true. Maybe in a different show it could’ve worked but it just seems to soap opera-ey for Star Trek in my opinion. Plus I just don’t see Picard or Crusher, even in the former’s young rebellious days as being that heartless.

Possibly a better fit the grey and not-so-moral tones of DS9 (I really miss that show - some great tv at the time) rather than the safer / more moral TNG.

SilverWook said:

oojason said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Troi is laughably ridiculous in Farpoint. What did she say at the end? “Good tidings and joy for all!” or something like that. SAD!

‘Great joy and gratitude…’ eurgh!

I did think ‘The Boy’ Wesley was going to end being Picard’s son in the first few seasons - Picard and Beverley always seemed have that awkward thing going on, and it seemed the obvious place for the writers to go with Picard really not liking children…

She was translating the emotional vibes she was getting from giant matter transforming space jellyfish. She probably didn’t have to say it three times.
They did tone down her getting too emotional all the time after the pilot.

I’m quite glad they did - an obvious expositional character like that could have been quite jarring/distracting if that had continued…

and she thankfully Troi did get some better stories and characterisation throughout the show - and especially late on it’s run.

moviefreakedmind said:

SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

The point is that you think it’s getting worse and worse. Which is funny. Because black people would probably say what is getting worse and worse is the police killing them. But you know, protesting during the anthem is the real problem.

I think both are a problem. Obviously the wrongful killing of African Americans is a more serious problem. This does not mean that people protesting the anthem is not a problem.

It isn’t.

In your opinion.

I hate to sound like someone we all can’t stand, but you’re denying the truth here.

agree to disagree

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

I’d be interested in hearing ric_olie_2’s take on the incident.

He might think that SNL is an inappropriate venue for such a statement. I personally think it’s one of the most beautiful and stunning protests ever done by a musician.

I don’t think I’d call it beautiful.

It was a bold, brave, and beautiful action by a bold, brave, and beautiful woman. She timed and planned it all perfectly so that the producers wouldn’t expect it and would be unable to cut it because it was live, and she pulled out the picture as she sang the final lyric, “Evil”. And who could forget, “Fight the real enemy!” It gives me the chills every time I see it. She was so ahead of her time with it too.

agree to disagree.

I would ask why you object to her but I think that would be a can of worms not worth opening.

Somehow tearing up a pic of the Pope on live tv without any explanation given doesn’t seem like a good way of protesting. It also seems to offensive to Catholics that had nothing to do with the scandal. Do you think it would be ok to protest 911 by tearing up a pic of Muhammad on live tv without giving any explanation?

There was an explanation given.

She took the pic, tore it up, said nothing. That is not an explanation.

She changed the lyrics of the Marley song to refer to child abuse before she tore up the picture.

Do you honestly think people really had an idea why she tore up the pic? There is reason why people disliked her for awhile after that pic and it is not because people approve of the Catholic Church covering for child molesters.

Who cares if it’s offensive?

many people.

If the person whose picture you’re tearing up was, at least tacitly, involved in the cover up of the scandals, then you shouldn’t fear offending people that respect him.

We are talking about Religion here, its complicated.

Hell, I think it’d all be okay even without cause and explanation honestly. They’re men, not gods. That said, in the context of protest, it’s fair, effective, intense, and powerful. In the case of Sinéad’s performance, beautiful.

agree to disagree

By the way, I’m rarely into the whole “agree to disagree” thing. I don’t like opinions that dramatically differ from mine. Who does?

too bad.

Don’t you think that’s offensive to insane people like me that don’t like opinions that dramatically differ from my own?

*sigh*

IIRC, she said Fight the real power when she tore up the photo.

I forgot about that. In any case, I am pretty sure people at the time were confused as to why she did what she did.

Or were too busy being outraged to bother finding out why she did what she did.

Exactly. It’s a very similar case with the athletes. I really don’t even care if people are going to still complain about the protests, but refuse to acknowledge the reality behind it is what gets me.

In my experience there are sections of many a country’s population that refuse to believe that it’s Govt, or establishment, or authorities are capable of such things. They have put so much trust into these pillars of society that even when faced with overwhelming evidence they will still deny these pillars’ faults, will try to deflect away for the topic - or attempt to discredit those who bring about the attention to their cause / subject at hand - often without evidence or facts, in a bid to try and somehow distort events.

Thankfully the truth usually prevails in the end - it may take along time; the fight for the truth is often prolonged by those with much to hide - especially when backed by those in power or influence. Yet, it’s always easier to expose a lie when the facts are known…

SilverWook said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

The point is that you think it’s getting worse and worse. Which is funny. Because black people would probably say what is getting worse and worse is the police killing them. But you know, protesting during the anthem is the real problem.

I think both are a problem. Obviously the wrongful killing of African Americans is a more serious problem. This does not mean that people protesting the anthem is not a problem.

It isn’t.

In your opinion.

I hate to sound like someone we all can’t stand, but you’re denying the truth here.

agree to disagree

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

I’d be interested in hearing ric_olie_2’s take on the incident.

He might think that SNL is an inappropriate venue for such a statement. I personally think it’s one of the most beautiful and stunning protests ever done by a musician.

I don’t think I’d call it beautiful.

It was a bold, brave, and beautiful action by a bold, brave, and beautiful woman. She timed and planned it all perfectly so that the producers wouldn’t expect it and would be unable to cut it because it was live, and she pulled out the picture as she sang the final lyric, “Evil”. And who could forget, “Fight the real enemy!” It gives me the chills every time I see it. She was so ahead of her time with it too.

agree to disagree.

I would ask why you object to her but I think that would be a can of worms not worth opening.

Somehow tearing up a pic of the Pope on live tv without any explanation given doesn’t seem like a good way of protesting. It also seems to offensive to Catholics that had nothing to do with the scandal. Do you think it would be ok to protest 911 by tearing up a pic of Muhammad on live tv without giving any explanation?

There was an explanation given.

She took the pic, tore it up, said nothing. That is not an explanation.

She changed the lyrics of the Marley song to refer to child abuse before she tore up the picture.

Do you honestly think people really had an idea why she tore up the pic? There is reason why people disliked her for awhile after that pic and it is not because people approve of the Catholic Church covering for child molesters.

Who cares if it’s offensive?

many people.

Well, I’m sure the victims of the priests that got away with rape and abuse have it a little worse than being offended by an SNL stunt.

If the person whose picture you’re tearing up was, at least tacitly, involved in the cover up of the scandals, then you shouldn’t fear offending people that respect him.

We are talking about Religion here, its complicated.

I don’t agree. I don’t see why it’s okay to talk about how evil people like Trump are when we all know plenty of people worship him, but it’s not okay to do the same to the pope or people in positions like his. Why does religion get a pass? Especially when we’re talking about a man that is a religious figure. She didn’t tear up a picture of Jesus Christ or anything like that. I would get people’s complaints a little more if that were the case.

Hell, I think it’d all be okay even without cause and explanation honestly. They’re men, not gods. That said, in the context of protest, it’s fair, effective, intense, and powerful. In the case of Sinéad’s performance, beautiful.

agree to disagree

Nope. I don’t agree to disagree. If you don’t want to talk about this then you’ll just have to admit that you’re walking away from the discussion. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that, but agreeing to disagree tends to be a mutual decision.

By the way, I’m rarely into the whole “agree to disagree” thing. I don’t like opinions that dramatically differ from mine. Who does?

too bad.

Don’t you think that’s offensive to insane people like me that don’t like opinions that dramatically differ from my own?

*sigh*

What? I thought you cared about being offensive?

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

The point is that you think it’s getting worse and worse. Which is funny. Because black people would probably say what is getting worse and worse is the police killing them. But you know, protesting during the anthem is the real problem.

I think both are a problem. Obviously the wrongful killing of African Americans is a more serious problem. This does not mean that people protesting the anthem is not a problem.

It isn’t.

In your opinion.

I hate to sound like someone we all can’t stand, but you’re denying the truth here.

agree to disagree

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

I’d be interested in hearing ric_olie_2’s take on the incident.

He might think that SNL is an inappropriate venue for such a statement. I personally think it’s one of the most beautiful and stunning protests ever done by a musician.

I don’t think I’d call it beautiful.

It was a bold, brave, and beautiful action by a bold, brave, and beautiful woman. She timed and planned it all perfectly so that the producers wouldn’t expect it and would be unable to cut it because it was live, and she pulled out the picture as she sang the final lyric, “Evil”. And who could forget, “Fight the real enemy!” It gives me the chills every time I see it. She was so ahead of her time with it too.

agree to disagree.

I would ask why you object to her but I think that would be a can of worms not worth opening.

Somehow tearing up a pic of the Pope on live tv without any explanation given doesn’t seem like a good way of protesting. It also seems to offensive to Catholics that had nothing to do with the scandal. Do you think it would be ok to protest 911 by tearing up a pic of Muhammad on live tv without giving any explanation?

There was an explanation given.

She took the pic, tore it up, said nothing. That is not an explanation.

She changed the lyrics of the Marley song to refer to child abuse before she tore up the picture.

Do you honestly think people really had an idea why she tore up the pic? There is reason why people disliked her for awhile after that pic and it is not because people approve of the Catholic Church covering for child molesters.

Who cares if it’s offensive?

many people.

If the person whose picture you’re tearing up was, at least tacitly, involved in the cover up of the scandals, then you shouldn’t fear offending people that respect him.

We are talking about Religion here, its complicated.

Hell, I think it’d all be okay even without cause and explanation honestly. They’re men, not gods. That said, in the context of protest, it’s fair, effective, intense, and powerful. In the case of Sinéad’s performance, beautiful.

agree to disagree

By the way, I’m rarely into the whole “agree to disagree” thing. I don’t like opinions that dramatically differ from mine. Who does?

too bad.

Don’t you think that’s offensive to insane people like me that don’t like opinions that dramatically differ from my own?

*sigh*

IIRC, she said Fight the real power when she tore up the photo.

I forgot about that. In any case, I am pretty sure people at the time were confused as to why she did what she did.

She said “Fight the real enemy!” And no, no one was confused.

Been ages since I’ve seen the actual incident. (It was cut from rebroadcasts ever since.) Thanks for the correction.

It is available here - for those that wish to see it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCOIQOGXOg0

moviefreakedmind said:

oojason said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Troi is laughably ridiculous in Farpoint. What did she say at the end? “Good tidings and joy for all!” or something like that. SAD!

‘Great joy and gratitude…’ eurgh!

I did think ‘The Boy’ Wesley was going to end being Picard’s son in the first few seasons - Picard and Beverley always seemed have that awkward thing going on, and it seemed the obvious place for the writers to go with Picard really not liking children…

I didn’t think that was going to happen. It would’ve made Picard and Crusher seem like pretty big piles of shit to have an affair and let the child and man think that Beverly’s husband was his father.

You’re right - though it could have made for some interesting stories/arcs - especially given just how moral and ‘stiff’ Picard was in the early seasons.

Warbler - has your signature grown of late? It seems to be taking up half the screen.

moviefreakedmind said:

Troi is laughably ridiculous in Farpoint. What did she say at the end? “Good tidings and joy for all!” or something like that. SAD!

‘Great joy and gratitude…’ eurgh!

I did think ‘The Boy’ Wesley was going to end being Picard’s son in the first few seasons - Picard and Beverley always seemed have that awkward thing going on, and it seemed the obvious place for the writers to go with Picard really not liking children…

😄 (especially when written as a child genius - viewers usually should be able to connect with the characters - or at least some of their characterisations)

I was about to give Troi as an example of some of the poor characterisation ‘I’m feeling so much pain’ or similar, Captain Obvious type lines of dialogue (and at times delivery) early on.

Another is Worf pointing his phaser at the viewscreen in one episode too. Poor Dr Pulanski as well for season 2.

Very glad they improved in the main throughout the series 😃

moviefreakedmind said:

What’s the general consensus on Wesley Crusher here? Was he irredeemably horrible or just poorly written most of the time. He doesn’t bother me at all in episodes like First Duty and Coming of Age, but his good episodes are so few and far between.

Very poorly written for - especially early on.

(having said that, the writing in the first couple of seasons wasn’t great, certainly - and thankfully - improving in season 3 and beyond)

In the latter seasons I wish we’d actually seen a bit more of him, as he became a more rounded-out character and was interesting where the writers were seemingly going with him.

Bingowings said:

Handman said:

I’m surprised this wasn’t a bigger headline than it was.
Graham: ‘The war is headed to Africa’ (CNN.com)

I like how he says follow the enemy when he really means follow the mineral resources. The Chinese will not like US neocolonial adventures in Africa. It’s been their arena for decades now. The political elites collect wealth like I collect computer games that I haven’t the time to enjoy. The world would be a better place without them

Fully agree - and quite troubling to note that in that article…

'Graham also said “the rules of engagement are going to change,” and explained that the US approach to counterterrorism operations will be more aggressive, moving to what he called “status-based targeting.”

“So, if you find somebody who’s the member of a terrorist organization, then we can use lethal force, they don’t have to present an immediate threat,” he said.’

Labelling someone a member of a terrorist organisation - and then taking lethal force to remove them had better require some serious oversight and heavy weight of evidence before the green lighting of operations such as that. Both in the labelling of what a ‘terrorist organisation’ is, or not - and whether a person is a member of one at all.

Warbler said:

Where pedophilia scandals being discovered back when she tore up the picture? I don’t remember the pedophilia scandal being all that big at that point in time.

Very like due to members of the establishment keeping a lid on it - also at a time where such things were considered taboo to talk about (here in the UK and especially in Ireland). The average person in the street wouldn’t dream that their priest (or priests in general) may have received orders from higher-ups at the Vatican to not report abuse, many may have turned a blind eye, and that many of those who were involved were merely moved away to an new area, or that the authorities/establishment would turn a blind eye - or not investigate fully accusations made by those who were abused…

…and so there would also be less media coverage and attention to it.

What Sinead (and others) did was help shine a light on the whole thing - investigative journalists would do a little more digging around as her actions were a story in itself, and slowly over time more information would surface, more people coming forward, more evidence (whether circumstantial or actual) being pieced together, and it snowballs, and so on.

Unfortunately so - if you’re under 18 you can’t legally buy them - but take a guess how well that works in practice 😉

https://www.gov.uk/fireworks-the-law & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireworks_law_in_the_United_Kingdom
 

People still let them off after 11pm too - a bit annoying if you have pets, kids or on shifts, or for those who have animals on farmland nearby etc.

Category 3 fireworks (often referred to as display fireworks) are meant to be for organised displays only - but doesn’t really work out like that either.

Cat 4 (professional fireworks) are harder to get hold of - and carry more sever punishment (the police will take mis-use with these seriously) - as it’s difficult to prove you are entitled to have them in your possession if not at an organised show.
 

The Fire Brigade and the NHS don’t really like fireworks either - weekends are busy enough for them as it is - let alone more people being injured through fireworks and idiots mis-using them.

In an effort to cancel out the fireworks constantly going off nearly every night of late - and freaking the dog out - loud music with a heavy bass or beat has been the order of the day…

‘Motown Junk’ by the Manics on repeat is doing it tonight - and the dog is relaxed too 😃

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vruRbTTGDM4

FrankT said:

Remember when I made that Star Trek Remastered DVD cover for Revisited?

I don’t mate - but that is one sweet cover - nice one 😃

darth_ender said:

Made me emotional.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/protester-hugged-nazi-pleads-hate-article-1.3575977

Well in Aaron Courtney, and thanks for posting that link d_e - positive news/stories in politics is always welcome 😃

John Doom said:

I was wondering why did Ren kill Tekka instead of interrogating him like later with Poe? As much as he knew, Tekka might’ve been the only person to know of the map. What if he didn’t find Poe after killing Tekka?
Also, how did he know that Tekka gave the map to Poe? Did he read Tekka’s mind? Tekka might be old, but doesn’t seem to be weak-minded (except when he goes straight to them to get captured 😄 ). So, did he read Poe’s mind, instead? That would be odd too, because he later has to interrogate him for quite some time before he can get the informations he wants.

For the first part of your post… I took it as both Tekka and Ren knew that Ren wouldn’t be able to interrogate that information from him - whether that is due to Ren not having finished his training / skills - or Tekka having some knowledge (of the force) to be able to resist him. So if Tekka would not give Ren the info then Ren would ensure no-one else would be able to get it from Tekka…

It wasn’t made clear enough though - if this was indeed the case.
 

Re the second part - Ren knows and acknowledges that they have captured the best pilot in the resistance in Poe - so he likely knew that was the reason Poe was on Jakku - to meet with Tekka - likely re the map / or Skywalker’s whereabouts…

Just my guess at it.

Anakin Starkiller said:

oojason said:

Anakin Starkiller - please refrain from creating new unnecessary multiple threads in the Star Wars Fan Edit section - especially as some of these threads could easily fit into your ‘My list of potential changes for my edits’ thread.

Thank you.

Sorry. I’m used to Reddit, where threads don’t stay in use longterm, and every topic gets a new post. It’s not just that, though. I find it more intuitive to have threads dedicated to ideas than those dedicated to edits. When a thread is dedicated to an edit, you have no way of knowing in advance what kind of changes will be discussed, whereas if we dedicate threads to ideas, you know exactly what you’re getting into, making it easier to find threads that interest you. All in all, adding completely new ideas to an old thread is just a foreign concept to me.

I’ll try to remember to do it this way in the future, if that’s what’s prefered. I get where you’re coming from. I won’t deny I make much more individual threads this way. That said, I haven’t noticed anyone else complaining…but you’re a mod, so I assume you know what you’re talking about.

No worries mate - though as others have said we are a fair bit different from reddit; some of threads on here have been on the first couple of pages of various sections for a long, long time 😃

Remember, you can always edit/alter the thread titles to reflect/cover what is currently going though your mind for ideas etc.

It may also give posters on here a better idea for the type of Edits you are going for - should they see many of the ideas you are aiming to achieve in together in one or two threads.
 

And keep on with the ideas for your Edits - it also may be worth watching or reading up on some of the other Edits available too for even more ideas.

Good luck with it all 😃

Ha! A nice addition there mate 😃

Top work with Luke’s hood and a bit more extended Rey’s sabre too.
 

As you said in one of the other art threads (nice catch btw) - strange how Rey and Finn’s eyes have that ‘eye-level meet’ when the two poster are places side by side.

dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

SilverWook said:

I simply can’t imagine browsing the forums on anything with such a tiny screen. 😉

When you’re in the Legoland Hotel waiting for dinner, there’s no other choice.

I trust it went down like this

Also, geocities still exists?

geocities.ws has done a decent job of archiving many of the old geocities.com websites - I think it’s to later blackmail the old owners as to embarrassing content and layouts from the 90’s etc 😉

Very cool - if you do remove the TLJ text from the poster it will leave what would seem to be quite a large gap there… though would likely still look quality 😃

Be nice to see both posters without text too 😃

Mocata said:

Yeah something like that. I would put the URL on the back personally but it’s your project dude.

Cheers mate (it’s not really a project though - I’m just messing around a couple of ideas in MS paint with a few spare minutes 😃)

Dirge said:

Speaking of Star Wars shirts with a Space Invaders vibe, I recently added this little piece to my wardrobe:

Quality fun t-shirt that 😄

Possessed said:

I’ve never heard of calling someone a newt as an insult lol I think we’re all overreacting. Frink didn’t seem bothered by it anyway.

You’re all just a bunch of salamanders anyway.

Although it may appear an ‘overreaction’ mate, sometimes it helps to be a little pro-active in trying to nip these things in the bud - and also just to give posters a gentle nudge or reminder… that ‘name calling’ will not be tolerated on this site (as has been stated in a few others posts of late as a reminder).

Now, as said to LordZerome1080, it’s not a good idea to post something like that without context. Frink could have taken it badly (or to another poster could have) - and then it escalates…

(The Mods are busy enough trying to ensure the smooth-running of the site without having to go look up the various definitions of ‘newt’ out there on the internet - local, cultural, insults etc - to ensure that this wasn’t something more - or having to keep an eye on ‘newt’-based posts.)
 

‘Newt-based posts’ - what a way to start the day 😃

LordZerome1080 said:

TV’s Fink is a Newt.

It’s not a good idea for that sort of post mate - even in here (the Random Thoughts thread) - and especially without context.

I believe you were referring to Monty Python yet…

without that context it could likely lead to some confusion, misconception and possibly some escalation - plus, name calling between posters of this site is a big NO.

‘No Donald Trump, ‘Radical Islamic Terror’ Did Not Cause A 13% Rise In UK Crime’…

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-uk-crime-tweet_uk_59e9d224e4b0df10767c4afd?utm_hp_ref=uk

^ an interesting read, not only for highlighting Trump’s inability to read past a headline (again), but also that this’ll be another error from him whether there will be no apology or acknowledgement that he got it so wrong (again)… and he’ll likely move on to the next new subject in a bid to try and deflect focus/scrutiny away from his own shortcomings (again).

They’ll be super cool signatures by then - 3D holographic and all - with a little death ray emerging from the Death Star to shoot through your monitors at the unruly / pesky members when needed~ 😉

Jay’s coding on this is something to behold.

~ the moderators apologise now for any future ‘accidental discharges’ and cases of mistaken identity. All disintegrations are final - thanks 😃

LordZerome1080 said:

oojason said:

LordZerome1080 said:

HerekittykittyX said:

This is not an idea for return of the Jedi I have an idea for revenge of the sith and attack of the clones I was going to do it for my edit but you can go right away you should add darth mual into attack of the clones and revenge of the sith use after effects and take out count dooku and then replace with darth mual use a green screen and add him in. Another idea add Anakin in the Darth Vader costume for revenge of the sith when Order 66 goes down and the battle with Obi-Wan
I was listening to Darth Vader audio I would recommend using audio from Star Wars rebels when Vader fights Ashoka
And it would take out most of the clunky audio for the final battle

I love your idea.

Edit I just read the last part I thought it would be a good Edition to the prequels giving Obi-Wan an arc

LordZerome1080 - once again, please do not post your comments in the text block of other posters - thank you.

I won’t do it again. Sorry.

Cheers, mate.