oojason

Collipso said:

It really seemed like Finn was more than able to destroy the cannon to me. He was still going relatively fast in the cannon’s direction, while all the others turned back, which it in itself is a plot hole (how did Rose even get to him?) and something I noticed upon first viewing.

The cannon’s beam appeared to slow down anything in it’s path - and was also stripping away parts of the ski-speeder (including the ski-speeder’s guns).

Dialogue from the Crait battle… (taken from another site - so for whatever it’s worth on accuracy)

Rose (to Finn): Hey! Engage your mono-ski.
Poe: All right, listen up - I don’t like these rust buckets and I don’t like our odds (‘What the hell?!’ - as part of the floor falls off). Just keep it tight and don’t get too close until they roll that cannon out front.
Poe: All right - Ground Forces - lay down some fire!

Hux: Thiteen incoming light craft. Shall we hold until we clear them?
Ren: No… the Resistance is in that mine. Push through.

(Tie Fighters enter the fray)

Poe: Fighters! Break off! We gotta hold them until they pull up that cannon!

(The Falcon enters the battle)

Ren: Blow that piece of junk out of the sky!
Hux: All fighters! (after the Falcon)

Rey: Chewie, peel off from the battle - draw them away from the speeders.

(The Falcon leads away the Tie Fighters)

Poe: She drew them off - all of them.
Finn: They hate that ship!

Rose: There it is. That is a big gun…
Finn: Okay. It’s heavily armoured - our only shot is right down the throat.
Finn: The cannon is opening (emitting it’s beam) - this is our chance.
Kylo: All fire on those speeders.
Hux: Concentrate all fire on the speeders!
Rebel on radio in base to Leia: We’re taking heavy losses.
Poe: They are picking us all off - we are not gonna make it.
Finn: Alright - it’s my final approach. Target in sight. Guns are hot.
Poe: No - pull her off.
Finn: What?!
Poe: The cannon is charged - it’s a suicide run. All craft pull away.
Finn: No! I’m almost there.
Poe: Retreat Finn! That’s an order.
(rest of craft break off - Finn stays on course)
Rose: (indecipherable) - its too late. Don’t do this.
Finn: No! I won’t let them win.
Rose: No, Finn - listen to Poe. We have to retreat.

The cannon’s beam start to hit the rebel base door.
Finns’ craft’s guns melt in the cannon’s beam.
Finn disengages the stabiliser and flies up level with to the cannon.
As he’s about to enter the cannon mouth Rose hits him from the side.

Finn: Rose! NO! (runs to Roses’ damaged speeder). Rose! Rose? Why would you do that? I was almost there. Why would you stop me?
Rose: I saved you, dummy. That’s how we’re going to win - not fighting what we hate, but saving what we love.

Cannon explodes the rebel base door.
Rose kisses Finn. Passes out shortly after.

RU.08 said:

Guys please stop asking for invites, it’s annoying. Members have to earn and then exchange reward points to make invites there, your requests for invites are not practical.

This.

No more asking for invites for Blutopia as per RU.08’s request - thank you.

^ love that art 😃

Not sure if this was posted already (without the creases)t:-

The original art (with creases) is by Alexey Kot.

by Numan Ahmed

‘How to Make an Origami Star Wars X-Wing’…

https://imgur.com/gallery/PJRC4

Very good the pair of you
😃

Reminds me of one of Rikter’s Jedi Beat Machine 😉

Mocata - it’s 3 times now that I’ve seen you post TLJ content outside of TLJ spoiler threads.

Pack it in.

Buy them?
 

When you say ‘international theatrical versions for all 3’ - which versions are you referring to? (Is there a difference between certain parts of the world in what they saw on the screen?)

Someone put up their own version of an Episode III Revenge Of The Sith VHS cover, in the same thread as linked to above:-

https://i.redd.it/26bmu0xk4yjz.jpg

^ from https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/7possx/tie_fighter_wood_burner/

DrDre said:

oojason said:

DrDre said:

Anchorhead said:

DrDre said:

oojason said:

Well said, mate.

Not well said. As long as debates are civil, any subject should be open for discussion. I don’t tell anyone else what they should or should not write about, and I expect the same courtesy.

Neither did I. In fact, I specifically said feel free to dissect and rant. My point was to occasionally give some thought to taking a break from trying to beat the franchise and the fans who may not agree with you.

…It has been suggested by Jason, that too many negative posts allways warrent moderator action. I obviously feel this is not in the best interests of an open forum with a free flow of ideas, but also feel this is a bit disingenuous, considering the mostly negative threads on the prequels and special edition changes on this forum.

Actually, what I posted was… (and the full post can be found here - http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1156598)

oojason said:

An issue for anyone trying to read through this thread most likely - whether they agree or disagree - whatever their stance. Most topics on the site with seemingly endless repeated and circular negative content will eventually result in a mod trying address the issue therein.

Let’s not put words into the mouths of others, nor take them out of the context in which they were used. Ok.

The problem with this reasoning is, that:

1. As far as I can tell only those that disagree with the criticisms have expressed their frustration with what they apparently percieve to be endless repeated and circular negative content.

2. The endless repeated and circular negative content valuation is entirely subjective IMO.

3. The endless repeated and circular negative content is IMO inaccurate, as these debates involve two sides of the equation, which by extension must imply there’s endless repeated and circular positive content also.

4. I’m not the only poster who has expressed frustration with this in my view one sided approach. Several very eloquent posters have indicated they too feel the same way. These opinions are apparently ignored, in favour of the complaints by those posters with positive opinions of the film.

5. Most if not all toxic discussions are based on one side disrespecting the other with statements like “I can’t understand how anyone can like this movie”, “RJ has destroyed Star Wars”, or “First they complain about a lack of originality, and now it’s too original”. So, it’s not really about the positivity or negativity of the opinions towards the film, that are expressed, but how they are expressed.

6. Your post fails to address the apparent bias towards percieved endless repeated and circular negative content as opposed to percieved endless repeated and circular positive content. Aside from the lack of support in the forum rules, why is only negative content singled out? The forum rules restrict themselves to bad behaviour, and logically don’t put any restrictions on content, unless inflamatory or profane.

No, the problem is that you are sidestepping the issue and ignoring putting words into others mouths and taking them out of context.

All of these posts from your reaction to a moderator posting ‘By all means feel free to vent, deconstruct, debate, rage, etc. I do it occasionally myself. It’s what makes this forum work. However, maybe give some serious thought to focusing on what you like. The stuff we don’t like about the franchise isn’t going away.’ - wow.
 

Now, as not to derail the thread further - feel free to PM with any concerns you may have.

Back on topic…

DrDre said:

Anchorhead said:

DrDre said:

oojason said:

Well said, mate.

Not well said. As long as debates are civil, any subject should be open for discussion. I don’t tell anyone else what they should or should not write about, and I expect the same courtesy.

Neither did I. In fact, I specifically said feel free to dissect and rant. My point was to occasionally give some thought to taking a break from trying to beat the franchise and the fans who may not agree with you.

…It has been suggested by Jason, that too many negative posts allways warrent moderator action. I obviously feel this is not in the best interests of an open forum with a free flow of ideas, but also feel this is a bit disingenuous, considering the mostly negative threads on the prequels and special edition changes on this forum.

Actually, what I posted was… (and the full post can be found here - http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1156598)

oojason said:

An issue for anyone trying to read through this thread most likely - whether they agree or disagree - whatever their stance. Most topics on the site with seemingly endless repeated and circular negative content will eventually result in a mod trying address the issue therein.

Let’s not put words into the mouths of others, nor take them out of the context in which they were used. Ok.

I found this take on Canto Bight scenes, with Rose’s effect on Finn and his journey in the film - going from Finn to being mainly concerned for his friend Rey, all the way to committing to the Rebel cause - to be of interest - and had some insight on events which I hadn’t considered during the first couple of viewings…

https://i.redd.it/lrjogkba1c701.jpg

(that’s not to say that message could have been made a little clearer and some of the scenes didn’t play too well)

‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi Secrets Explained’…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p09c0MXDxto

(from the Star Wars youtube channel)

TV’s Frink said:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=give your head a wobble

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Softlad

DISCLAIMER: It’s Urban Dictionary. Does not necessarily represent oojason’s usage.

give your head a wobble - means ‘have a re-think’ / step back and think it through again.

soft lad - means ‘mate’. Sometimes a mate who’s having a slow thinking day (like before a morning coffee - or someone having one of those days).
 

I’ll try and stick to the more generic English vernacular from now on.

DrDre said:

oojason said:

DrDre said:

oojason said:

DrDre said:

oojason said:

Well said, mate.

Not well said. As long as debates are civil, any subject should be open for discussion. I don’t tell anyone else what they should or should not write about, and I expect the same courtesy.

Anchorhead suggested ‘However, maybe give some serious thought to focusing on what you like’ - there’s nowt wrong with that - if you have a problem with that - that’s your problem.

He also said ‘By all means feel free to vent, deconstruct, debate, rage, etc.’ - so what is your problem here?
 

My problem is with the concept of a moderator giving advice on what people should focus on in their debates. In my opinion the focus should always be on the content, not on the people who write the content, and their motives.

That the seemingly endless repeated and circular negative content in here has become an issue

An issue for whom? For those that don’t agree with that content?

An issue for anyone trying to read through this thread most likely - whether they agree or disagree - whatever their stance. Most topics on the site with seemingly endless repeated and circular negative content will eventually result in a mod trying address the issue therein.

where a moderator has asked members to maybe also give some thought to the things they like about the film - in amongst the ‘free to vent, deconstruct, debate, rage’ - and you give him or me shit for it… says a lot - about you.

What’s that supposed to mean? Moderators can do personal attacks now? I’m advocating for a “discuss the films, and not the fans” policy. I don’t see why that would warrent such a response.

How on earth have you got ‘moderators can make personal attacks now?’ from a moderator has asking members maybe also give some thought to the things they like about the film? And you then giving us shit for it… (Don’t bother replying - it’s rhetorical).

I will stop discussing the subject, since I don’t want to keep going off subject, but this is a serious issue for me.

Probably a very good thing if you’re going to go off on one like this.

‘By all means feel free to vent, deconstruct, debate, rage, etc. I do it occasionally myself. It’s what makes this forum work. However, maybe give some serious thought to focusing on what you like. The stuff we don’t like about the franchise isn’t going away’ - what a terrible thing to suggest. Aye, a serious issue that, indeed…

DrDre said:

oojason said:

DrDre said:

oojason said:

Well said, mate.

Not well said. As long as debates are civil, any subject should be open for discussion. I don’t tell anyone else what they should or should not write about, and I expect the same courtesy.

Anchorhead suggested ‘However, maybe give some serious thought to focusing on what you like’ - there’s nowt wrong with that - if you have a problem with that - that’s your problem.

He also said ‘By all means feel free to vent, deconstruct, debate, rage, etc.’ - so what is your problem here?
 

My problem is with the concept of a moderator giving advice on what people should focus on in their debates. In my opinion the focus should always be on the content, not on the people who write the content, and their motives.

That the seemingly endless repeated and circular negative content in here has become an issue where a moderator has asked members to maybe also give some thought to the things they like about the film - in amongst the ‘free to vent, deconstruct, debate, rage’ - and you give him or me shit for it… says a lot - about you.

Give your head a wobble Have a good re-think about it, soft lad.

TV’s Frink said:

oojason said:

Wind your neck in.

I have no idea what this means (I mean I get it via context but no idea what it means from a “how it became a saying” standpoint) but I love it and I will be using it at every opportunity from now on.

I think it as an alternative (or derived) from ‘keep your nose out of other people’s business’ - though if so it has a different meaning now.

Also could be something derived from conflicts - ‘put your head down’ or ‘keep your head down’ etc - again a different meaning now though.

DrDre said:

oojason said:

Well said, mate.

Not well said. As long as debates are civil, any subject should be open for discussion. I don’t tell anyone else what they should or should not write about, and I expect the same courtesy.

Anchorhead suggested ‘However, maybe give some serious thought to focusing on what you like’ - there’s nowt wrong with that - if you have a problem with that - that’s your problem.

He also said ‘By all means feel free to vent, deconstruct, debate, rage, etc.’ - so what is your problem here?
 

Personally, if I think something is well said then, for me, that is well said.

I don’t need you pulling me up on it.

Wind your neck in.

Well said, mate.

^ love those Celebration '16 crawls for Rogue One 😃

a little late for the quality Fan Edits already out there - yet thought this was worth a mention…

^ from https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/7pey0x/i_made_an_opening_crawl_for_rogue_one/

The text:-

'The World is become undone, Imperial Flags reign across the galaxy. The only known combatants to push back the menacing GALACTIC EMPIRE have heard rumors of an Imperial Super-Weapon.

In an attempt to stop this doomsday device, the brave REBEL ALLIANCE has dispatched two rebel soldiers to locate the daughter of the weapon’s creator.

Being held captive in an Imperial Prison, Jyn Erso is unaware of the intentions of the two rebels, as they race off to Wobani to recruit her and destroy this mysterious weapon.’
 

A little confusing to have that as a crawl if opening with Jyn as a kid in the opening flashback sequence - yet for other Fan Edit ideas… a pretty decent crawl.

13. I’ve read about someone else’s project and I want a copy. What should I do?

 
Firstly, please read the forum rules - you may only obtain a fan edit if you own the official retail release.

Do NOT start a new thread in the forum requesting something, or post a list of DVDs offered for trade. Such threads will be deleted immediately.

Reading the project thread should give you an indication of what method the creator has chosen for distribution, if indeed it is to be distributed at all. (See 7-8).

The I have found a Fan Edit / Preservation I am interested in - but don’t know how to get / acquire / download it? post should also be of some help on asking how to acquire a project on here.
 

Certain members have taken it upon themselves to distribute fan edits and preservation DVDs on Usenet (newsgroups) or torrent sites. You should be able to find out if the project is available for download in one of these threads. Torrent reseed or Usenet repost requests should be posted in the appropriate thread; don’t start a new thread.

If you need help with a torrent client or downloading from newsgroups, you can make a post in the technical discussion forum. Please try to keep general newsgroup or torrent questions out of project feedback threads.

If the creator had started a PIF chain and you want to get on it, post a message in the project thread.

Some members are open for trade or B&P offers on discs they have obtained. This correspondence should be carried out privately. If you send a private message to someone, please have the courtesy to make sure that “allow PMs” is turned on in your user profile - otherwise they will not be able to reply!

Originaltrilogy•com does not accept any responsibility or have any control over:

• activities that may occur through private email correspondence of its forum members,
• or for files/data that may be found elsewhere on the internet.

 

Harmy has put up a video on youtube - just to remind everyone that Fan Edits must never be bought or sold.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrwKZHv4OS0 - a 4 minute video at the Harmy Despecialized youtuhe channel.

Personally, as a member here, I’d encourage everyone to watch it and upvote that video.

Hi and welcome to the site 😃

Please take the time to look around - and you’ll likely find what you are looking for.

The thread above that Frink linked to may well be of help too.
 

Re L8wrtr’s Star Wars Prequel Trilogy Edits - these threads may be of interest…

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SW-EP-1-Shadow-of-the-Sith-by-L8wrtr/id/11778/page/1
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-II-The-Republic-Divided-by-L8wrtr/id/12973
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/dote/

Star Wars.

Occasionally in the context of talking about the Star Wars saga as a whole… the '77 Star Wars.

That’s great - but let’s just have one thread about your Edit mate 😃 (I’ll delete the other thread)

You may wish to put a little more info about your Edit too - like how it differs from the theatrical version etc?

Best of luck with it.