DrDre said:
oojason said:
DrDre said:
yotsuya said:
DrDre said:
SilverWook said:
I’m almost at the point where I will have no use for the community at all. I hope that guy gets paid by the word.
I’m not even sure that guy is part of the community. He seems to be writing about film in general, but I share his view, that Star Wars has become a franchise, that doesn’t go forward, because it’s obsessed with looking in the rearview mirror.
Funny, I thought TLJ moved to new territory and broke the pattern. And Solo should be fun, not epicly serious.
I seriously wonder if we will ever get a Star Wars film, that isn’t in some way a remix of Lucas’ greatest hits. What’s wrong with just telling a story about a new smuggler type character (or any other new character for that matter) set in the Star Wars universe, where we don’t know where all the characters end up? How about getting people to view your film simply on the merit of telling a good original story with good original characters, rather than relying on the classic characters, story tropes, nostalgia, and fan service to draw people in for another deja vu experience.
Well, this is the just 2nd Standalone film so far - and it seems Lucasfilm/Disney will be making more, so I’m not questioning why they haven’t made a ‘wholly new’ Star Wars film yet. I didn’t know most of the R1 characters, and I didn’t know most of the Solo characters either - and was quite happy to let the story tell me about them.
Yes, but the problem is, that except for Qi’Ra these new characters have no future, because they’re either killed in the film, or have been killed in other media. As such these new characters don’t stand on their own, but were created in the service of expanding the canon of classic characters (Solo -> Han & Chewie) or stories (RO -> ANH). In many ways they are equivalent to the redshirts in Star Trek - the original series:
Solo continues the trend of RO, where a good villain in the form of Krennic is ultimately the warmup act for Tarkin & Vader. In Solo Dryden Vos, another good villain played by a good actor who might have had a bright future, turns out to be the warmup act for another legacy character Maul, who we know is going to die at the hands of Obi-Wan, meaning he’s another dead end.
How can Solo continue ‘the trend’ of R1 - where the trend is one film previously?
I see where you’re going in trying to establish a pattern - though that pattern has been just the two films - like your complaints that we’re not getting new stories or characters… yet we are, and have. Now you point out some characters will die - will it’s kind of the nature of the film and the universe they are set in (especially R1) - some characters will die, some will live - all part of the emotional aspect of the story. The same would likely happen if set in a different era or story. And besides, not everyone died in Solo; I’d like to see more Enfys Nest and her crew - those few bands of people coming together… more Maul / Crimson stuff too - and to be honest if the films want to re-write/ignore the events of Rebels then they should.
2 standalone films in, 2 new separate trilogies to come, likely more standalone films to come, a tv series filling in between events of ROTJ and TFA (?) - seems strange to ask for new stories and characters - when they are in fact coming already.
Anyway back to Solo - what aspects did you enjoy about it, Dre?
