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Post: #167442
Topic: Adding subtitles on DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/167442/action/topic#167442
Time: 3-Jan-2006 7:32 AM

I've been thinking about adding my own subtitles - in this case in Danish - to Moth3r's DVD releases. Of course, I would do my own subtitles rather than just ripping and modifying the ones from the DVD and I'd use the subtitled version for personal use only. However, I'm quite inexperienced in the field of DVD authoring and even moreso when it comes to subtitles. So can anyone with more knowledge than me get me started on this? Thanks in advance.

Post: #167437
Topic: Can someone please explain WHY the audio on the 2004 ANH DVD is so messed up?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/167437/action/topic#167437
Time: 3-Jan-2006 6:19 AM

Well, fact is certain lines have always sounded like shit. Have you ever heard a good-sounding version of "It just isn't fair. Biggs is right, I'll never get outta here!"? I wouldn't mind if they had Mark re-do them - he is a brilliant voice actor after all.

Post: #167433
Topic: The Moth3r PAL DVD Set Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/167433/action/topic#167433
Time: 3-Jan-2006 5:53 AM

There seems to be a glitch on my copy when Leia says "Into the garbage chute, flyboy!". The audio skips a bit as she says the last word. The line begins at approx. 1:13:09. Is this a burning errror or is it present on the "master"?

Post: #167428
Topic: Can someone please explain WHY the audio on the 2004 ANH DVD is so messed up?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/167428/action/topic#167428
Time: 3-Jan-2006 5:23 AM

Yeah, it's annoying they refuse to tell the truth. Again those "creative decisions". If they do not have these lines as ADR, I'll certainly be able to live with the current version, though. Muffled audio or not, overdubbing Peter Cushing would be utter blasphemy!

Post: #167421
Topic: Which did you prefer, the SE or the 2004 DVD edition?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/167421/action/topic#167421
Time: 3-Jan-2006 4:42 AM

Unfortunately not. I've read it somewhere, but I don't remember where. If I have to guess, it's probably in "Within A Minute" somewhere as I think I've seen all of the others, but I really don't have the patience to watch a one-hour documentary about one single minute

Post: #167419
Topic: Can someone please explain WHY the audio on the 2004 ANH DVD is so messed up?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/167419/action/topic#167419
Time: 3-Jan-2006 4:40 AM

Yes. It's easier noticeable because the audio is a whole lot clearer (you can't deny that). Say what you will, it's still there in the original release.

Post: #167415
Topic: Can someone please explain WHY the audio on the 2004 ANH DVD is so messed up?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/167415/action/topic#167415
Time: 3-Jan-2006 4:08 AM

I watched Moth3r's DVD of ANH recently and although it is less noticeable, the changes in quality between Leia and Tarkin are also present here. It has always been that way. It is only because of the enchanced audio clarity on the DVD that it sticks out like a sore thumb. Who knows what went wrong? Damaged reels? Bad recording equipment? The fact is that the problem has been present since 1977 and this would probably indicate that it can't be fixed.

As for why Lucasfilm seemingly rushed the DVDs to get them done, read my theory about it in the OT vs SE forum.

Post: #167176
Topic: Info: Master Edition - the website for future Star Wars DVD changes
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/167176/action/topic#167176
Time: 2-Jan-2006 2:50 PM

Most of these changes are, IMO, not needed. Changing Tarkin's lines? Removing Vader force choking the Imperial officer? Adding a digital interrogation droid? I personally don't think it would do much good...

Post: #167171
Topic: Twas the night before a Wookie Christmas... HAPPY LIFE DAY, HANUKKAH, KWANZAA and a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/167171/action/topic#167171
Time: 2-Jan-2006 2:36 PM

Sent you an e-mail, Rikter!

Post: #166731
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166731/action/topic#166731
Time: 31-Dec-2005 2:23 AM

Well, try to imagine this scenario then...

"Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough..."
"Really? Wow!"
"Nah, actually I just picked it up when he was lying on the volcano burning to death while he screamed 'I HATE YOU!'."
"..."
"Uh... it's an elegant weapon! From a more civilized age."

The colours of the lightsaber blades do not change depending on what side you're on. They do however change when you bring them aboard The Millenium Falcon

Post: #166498
Topic: Modified from its original version
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166498/action/topic#166498
Time: 30-Dec-2005 12:06 PM

Damn you, indie-George! It should have said "These movies have been modified to piss you off"!

Post: #166476
Topic: The Moth3r PAL DVD Set Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166476/action/topic#166476
Time: 30-Dec-2005 9:50 AM

Thanks, but it doesn't really matter. I can't really take the word "hate" serious when it's in an internet context. Anyone who can hate me because of a few lines of text need to switch to decaffeinated

And I did actually smile when I saw that post! Anyway, we're drifting off-topic here, so never mind

Post: #166457
Topic: The Moth3r PAL DVD Set Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166457/action/topic#166457
Time: 30-Dec-2005 7:56 AM

Oh, I'm sorry. My mistake entirely

Post: #166441
Topic: The Moth3r PAL DVD Set Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166441/action/topic#166441
Time: 30-Dec-2005 5:30 AM

Hmm, can anybody step in and seed the ANH torrent on Myspleen? The current seeder seems to have trouble keeping his uploading rate steady - everytime I've tried it starts at 50 kb/s or something and then slowly drops to 0 kb/s. I'm at 97% and there are 8 other peers. Please, anyone?

Post: #166271
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166271/action/topic#166271
Time: 29-Dec-2005 12:46 PM

Perhaps they sent him to the front lines to get rid of him as fast as possible

Post: #166181
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166181/action/topic#166181
Time: 29-Dec-2005 4:30 AM

Hmm... will these be posted on MySpleen in the near future? I would love a copy of the XviD's for viewing on my laptop - the quality is amazing!

Post: #166160
Topic: Idea: Would it be possible to reconstruct the 70mm ESB?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166160/action/topic#166160
Time: 29-Dec-2005 2:56 AM

Apparently, the mask scene exists. If I remember correctly, it's seen during the end credits of the "Empire of Dreams" documentary. Obviously, a cropped and re-sized MPEG2 is not exactly pristine quality, but somebody could possibly get it to work. As for the others, no idea, I'm afraid...

Post: #166024
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166024/action/topic#166024
Time: 28-Dec-2005 4:06 PM

Okay, here's my suggestion for the ROTJ-flashback. The shot-descriptions below are quite obviously the ones that accompany the previous line. They should probably have been above the lines rather than below, but hopefully you can imagine how it would come together.

---

Luke: "Why didn't you tell me? You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father."
Obi-Wan: "Your father..."

(At this point, the scene fades to white and switches to a flashback. The music used should probably either be "Anakin's Betrayal" or "Padme's Ruminations". The first shot we see is the close-up of Anakin with yellow eyes)

"... was seduced by the Dark Side of the Force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and BECAME Darth Vader."

(Shot of Anakin burning)

"Anakin was a good friend."

(A shot of Anakin and Obi-Wan as friends, probably something from the beginning of ROTS.)

"When I first knew him, your father was already a great pilot."

(Anakin in the Naboo Starfighter in TPM.)

"But I was amazed how strongly the Force was with him. I took it upon myself to train him as a Jedi."

(Anakin and Obi-Wan at the celebration in TPM)

"I thought that I could instruct him just as well as Yoda. I was wrong."

(Anakin preparing to kill the younglings.)

"He's more machine now than man; twisted and evil."

(The shot of Anakin's cybernetic hand trying to climb up the volcano. The ominous image fades to white and we return to the movie.)

Luke: "There IS still good in him. I've felt it... I can't do it, Ben."

---

And then the scene would go on as usual. Like I said earlier, I think a flashback here could be quite effective. And it wouldn't be very difficult to put together.

Post: #166009
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166009/action/topic#166009
Time: 28-Dec-2005 3:47 PM

I'm glad you agree

I'm currently toying a bit around with a modified version of Obi-Wan and Luke's chat on Dagobah in ROTJ. I was pretty impressed by your first clip of the flashback in ANH, so I think it would be a shame to ditch that idea. It would make a great emotional impact if we were reminded of Anakin's horrible fate in that chapter. I'll post my script when it's finished - I'm unable to contribute with a clip, sadly.

Post: #165995
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/165995/action/topic#165995
Time: 28-Dec-2005 2:56 PM

Originally posted by: InfoDroid
This was recently posted by "CO" in another thread:

-He just looked at me and said, "I am your father!" That is the best part of all the movies.

Now, this goes to show that even though we know the whole story of Anakin, Vader's revelation could still be quite potent. Look at ROTS. We all knew what was going to happen and we all knew how, but that was really what made it more horrifying to watch. I mean, I always end up crying during the order 66-montage even though it hardly came as a surprise when it finally happened! So overall, I'd be strictly in favour of keeping that scene as it is, even though it means Obi-Wan will still be a liar, though I like to think he's just protecting Luke from the truth.

Post: #165729
Topic: I have seen the Holiday Special!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/165729/action/topic#165729
Time: 27-Dec-2005 4:47 AM

Hmm, I need to download The Holiday Special sometime. I've only watched the animated segment which is okay, except that Boba Fett is quite dull. "Friiiiieeeend...".

Post: #165373
Topic: Which did you prefer, the SE or the 2004 DVD edition?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/165373/action/topic#165373
Time: 24-Dec-2005 8:37 AM

Well, from what I've heard, Lucas can be seen discovering a minor flaw in ESB in one of the docs on the Episode III DVD. He responds with a "We'll fix that next time". So I doubt these are final versions. The 2007 "archival edition" will probably be the one where they smooth out all those little errors, but this time he'd better do it right! That man probably won't stop tinkering till the day he dies

As for the DVDs really being WIP-versions, who knows? It certainly seems to sloppy to be a final product and knowing how serious Lucas is when it comes to "his vision", I doubt he even knew it had so many errors in it. So that seems more logical to me as well - I doubt Vader's pink saber was a "creative decision".

Post: #165371
Topic: Which did you prefer, the SE or the 2004 DVD edition?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/165371/action/topic#165371
Time: 24-Dec-2005 8:13 AM

Well, I've been lurking around at millenniumfalcon.com for a while. Weeks before the DVDs were released, people shared DivX videos that were at the very least very close to DVD-quality, judging from the screenshots I've seen. So technically, you didn't even need to buy the box. Just to buy a few DVD-Rs! Back then, people were discussing how these videos could be nothing more than work-in-progress versions, since the colours and new effects looked quite shoddy. I'll admit that I have downloaded some various file myself before the DVDs were released, but nothing more than a clip of the new ROTJ-ending and an mp3 of the new Emperor-dialogue in ESB as far as I remember. And I deleted those promptly after having played them.

However, as we all know, it was the versions that these people so happily shared on BitTorrent, IRC and God knows what else that ended up on the DVDs. After that, the complaints were endless; "teh sabers greeeen", "omg vader is gay - pink sabre!!!111", "hayden sux0rz" etc. It angered me because several weeks before the release date, they had happily shared what turned out to be the final products, oblivious to the fact that such piracy obviously hurts the people who are putting so much energy into it.

Had the release date been delayed for just a few weeks, the discs could have been perfect. No miscoloured lightsabers, no surround-channel switching, no unbalanced mixing and perhaps even a proper ROTJ-ending where Hayden knew he was to be in the movie! But because the final products were already shared at this point, it's obvious that Lucas' decision was to get it out earlier in order to lose as little money as possible. Of course, that severely hurt the final product.

Everytime I see somebody on MF.com complain about the quality of the DVDs, I get a sudden urge to register and just post a big "FUCK YOU!" to all those greedy bastards out there. Because they just had to leak what was probably not supposed to be the final versions, every SW fan now has to wait till 2007 at least and spend even more money to get a flawless copy of these films. Of course I can understand that people were eager to see how their favourite films would fare on DVD, but they've not just pissed at the people who made them this time. They've pissed on themselves and their fellow fans. Bravo. May the Force be with you...

Post: #165369
Topic: Which did you prefer, the SE or the 2004 DVD edition?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/165369/action/topic#165369
Time: 24-Dec-2005 7:45 AM

You may be right. Again, this strangely enough leads back to the fans who leaked the so called work-in-progress DivXs

I wish Lucasfilms themselves would shed some more light on this (whether the sound reels are damaged or not), but they seem to be more into trying to turn all their fuck-ups into "creative decisions".

Post: #165353
Topic: Which did you prefer, the SE or the 2004 DVD edition?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/165353/action/topic#165353
Time: 24-Dec-2005 6:46 AM

The AHN audio-track has received much bashing. Like you, I'm clueless when it comes to the surround-channel switching and the loss of the Force-fanfare during the assault on the Death Star, but it's my belief that the audio quality problems are unsolveable. It's obvious that the audiotrack was either damaged or in bad quality from the beginning, due to the indie-nature of the first film. I'm glad that they managed to improve on it as much as they did, cause in the old version, the whole soundtrack sounded like it had been recorded in a can. At least the problems have been narrowed down to a few lines now.

Furthermore, this is not the only DVD I have noticed this problem on. The exact same glitch is present on my DVD of Sergio Leone's "A Fistful of Dynamite", which is an MGM release. In the same scene, one line and be crystal clear and then the next can be muffled. Both films are getting older and technlogy has certainly changed quite a lot in all those years. So again, let's be grateful for what we do have. It is obvious that despite the drawbacks, a lot of effort was put into both picture and audio. If you ignore the colour "correction", it's actually virtually impossible to see that these films were shot 20-30 years ago. I know this is originaltrilogy.com and that the DVD's are certainly not perfect, but I think the criticism of things like the audio quality has been quite unfair. When they finally decided to restore the films for good back in '97, the picture had deteriorated so much Darth Vader was turning blue. So I'm just grateful to have these films in at least average quality!