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#147559
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147559/action/topic#147559
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A quick online search revealed that the poster WAS used here in the U.S., in places like, well, Los Angeles, as it was the Spanish-speaking area/Mexican poster.

Used in Germany, Spain, Australia, etc. Something of a common poster in those areas.

They all seem to have used the slightly retouched version as far as I can see, outside Japan.



Here's a lame alternate from Germany.

http://www.br-online.de/kultur-szene/thema/star-wars/foto/ep-5-plakat-cine-gross.jpg



Incidentally, 2005 is of course the 25th anniversary of The Empire Strikes Back, so I'm very happy to be bringing this version to y'all now.
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#147556
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147556/action/topic#147556
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It fits with the concept of "not using the same damned poster again." I know I've seen this poster around as an alternate anyway.

I like the Style D a lot, it's my favorite ANH poster which would be why I used it.

I also like this poster, but I'll have to retouch it in the same way whoever retouched it did, whether they were the original artist or not. Hm.
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#147508
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147508/action/topic#147508
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THAAAAAAT's more like it!

Much better.


Although this is clearly an alternate, inferior version of the poster actually. It took me a while to figure out whether it really was a different version or if I was just imagining things, but the painting isn't quite as good in some parts in this version, suggesting that this is an early version before changes were made and certain parts of the poster fixed. I hope it's an earlier version - otherwise someone just did a really bad job of retouching it for no obvious reason! (Which might happen in Japan ...)

Most noticeably, Luke looks bad in this version. The low-resolution version shows a better likeness of Mark Hamill (low resolution as it is), whereas this one looks pudgy and bug-eyed.

There is less detail at the top of Bespin, it's just painted blue without any crystal lighting effects.

Lando was also repainted a bit, especially around the eyes, giving his expression more subtlety and definition.

The little "starburst" at top right is more awkwardly paintined in this version where in the other it forms a perfect circle and is yellower. The shadows at the bottom are also less defined, as are the shadows on Han's face.


It would be possible to Photoshop this version into something closer to the final version of the poster - it'd take some work and skill though.



It's excellent to have ANY version of this poster in high quality, many thanks. I'll do somethin' with it!







EDIT: Hey, an idea - does anyone have the photos that those painted images of Lando and Luke were based on? It would make good reference if I'm going to try and fix this poster.
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#147460
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147460/action/topic#147460
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Or snow. Like snow and frost covering the whole thing.

That would make for a great cover.



So ..... I sent out the first wave of discs today, a bunch of 'em. Those of you who've asked for 'em, should have 'em shortly.

I sent out some big packages (non SW related) to Britain, which cost me $35-40 apiece, bringing my total cost of postage to $130, plus I had to buy some new shipping materials which was $80 at Staples .... leaving a $200 cost and my bank account $130 overdrawn. Sigh.

Yes, please sue me George Lucas because I'm clearly making a lot of money off of these things.



Shudder.



But it's all for the good o' the community. Enjoy your discs everyone! I'm proud of this release, it was hard to do and I hope you like it.


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#147295
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147295/action/topic#147295
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I don't know if wood would work for ESB, but I'd be curious if something similar could be come up with, who knows ....


The wood Star Wars looks GREAT. Great choice of fonts and crinkled paper and everything, really class.

We REALLY need a better scan of that alternate poster for Empire now - it's infected my disc art and now it's infected your cover too! A lovely design, but the image itself is so low quality it's just not worth printing.

I think there was a copy of this poster at USC actually - they had alternate posters for Empire and Jedi signed by George and the crew, including the pink Vader Empire one and the powder blue Death Star exploding Jedi one. Maybe they didn't have this particular Empire poster though. Is it out there? Who can scan it?


Some minor notes on the text on the back, if you can make some quick changes.

Empire: Should be a space between Clive and Revill. Guess the cat's out of the bag on what the easter egg is!

On the black ones, the font isn't quite working for me. It's very much the kind of font I would use, but usually on the back of DVDs (like the official ones) you'd see a kind of sans serif font, if you can make that look classy, I don't know ... Also the opening crawl text I'd like to see in a slightly different style to set it apart from the rest of the material. Or maybe the problem is that there is too much text and no images or visual style or metal rivets and whozits and doodads, or whatever.

On the back of the wood Classic Edition, the text repeats basically the same thing twice in a row .... so let me rewrite it. Here -

Journey back to 1977 with this faithful reproduction of the original version of Star Wars.

Lovingly restored to its original form, CGI "special edition" elements have been eliminated, and a new soundtrack created from the 35mm stereo mix and the rare 1977 mono mix.

Relive the magic with the film that started it all, the way you remember it. From the editor that brought you Deleted Magic.

How's that?

I like the idea of the stamp on the Classic Edition wood front, but it'll take some getting used to as it really stands out, where a more subtle rendition wouldn't.

Am I crazy, or in the wood version, didn't the "Star Wars Classic Edition" logo on the back originally have a more smudgy woodburning type effect on it? I liked that, if true.

It would be nice to post all of these without text as well, for those who like 'em that way.



Now, for the questions.

>> can't wait for classic edition return of the jedi.

There's a good chance of that, if Moth3r gets his version out anytime soon. =)

>> Any chance on a deleted magic strikes back, or return of deleted magic?

Probably not, but anything is possible. I said that Deleted Magic was the first in a series, but so little actual deleted footage has been leaked from Empire and Jedi that it was hard to make it worthwhile.

There is a good chance that at some point in the future I will record voices (once I can find good actors for, say, Leia and Obi-Wan and etc.) and recreate certain major deleted scenes myself, as small featurettes that people will be able to use on their future releases of the trilogy.

>>when you do return of the jedi is there any way you can put an alternate title crawl recreation for revenge of the jedi?

Uh ......

Never thought of that. Maybe someone could do one. With the release of Revenge of the Sith, I think that whole title strand has been played out though.


>> what the best software for the pc to watch both ntsc and pal or reauthor pal in ntsc?

You can watch PAL discs on your computer normally. Many, many DVD players also play PAL. I've used my AKAI and Philips machines for PAL playback.

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#147290
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Help: looking for... anyone have FIRE WALK WITH ME footage?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147290/action/topic#147290
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Twin Peaks is fine the way it is, Little Nicky and James/that woman subplots and all. You don't mess with a masterpiece. Anyway ...


I would kill to see these scenes, have wanted to for some time. But what we really need is a reunion of the original cast that wraps up some of the "Evil Cooper" story. If more time passes and they all get too old perhaps it could be done as an audio CD, a la the recent Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy radio show reunion.
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#147083
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147083/action/topic#147083
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>> But surely it is the way it was... isn't it?


Yes, and no. One of the interesting things about both the classic Star Wars and the classic Empire is that they combine several versions of the film into the "definitive" theatrical presentation.

With the Star Wars one, would you want the mono mix or the stereo mix? Of course you'd want elements of both, so those were combined.

With the Empire one, would you want the 35mm mix or the 70mm mix? Of course you'd want elements of both, so those were combined.


The most "memorable" elements of several versions have been combined into the best version of the film that people can recognize as the original theatrical version ... when in truth of course it's taken a lot of work to create something that looks effortless!

And of course in addition you get a nice recent transfer of the picture.

It really is "how you remember it!"



Anyway.


Disc art:

Deleted Magic.

http://orangecow.org/starwars/swcovers-ocp/dmdvdround2.jpg

Return of the Ewok.

http://orangecow.org/starwars/swcovers-ocp/ewokcover.jpg


All covers available in:
http://orangecow.org/starwars/swcovers-ocp/



The disc art I posted earlier for Empire, well, I used it and it looks awful. The picture I used to make it was just too low resolution and quite nasty. I've made some tweaks to it, and out of desperation applied a drybrush filter. It still doesn't look much better, so I'd REALLY like a higher quality version of that poster ....
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#147064
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Star Wars: Classic Edition by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147064/action/topic#147064
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Some have asked what the text on the back of the covers ought to be. Well, here goes - my blurb for the film I guess.




The original version of Star Wars. Not the way it was, but the way you remember it.

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, George Lucas released a film which changed the face of science fiction filmmaking forever.

Journey back to 1977 with this faithful reproduction of the original version of Star Wars.

"It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire. During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's ultimate weapon, the DEATH STAR, an armored space station with enough power to destroy an entire planet. Pursued by the Empire's sinister agents, Princess Leia races home aboard her starship, custodian of the stolen plans that can save her people and restore freedom to the galaxy...."

Using video from official DVD and laserdisc sources, the 1977 theatrical version of the film has been reproduced in high quality. CGI Special Edition elements have been eliminated, and the original opening crawl recreated. A new soundtrack has been created for this disc, based on the 1993 Definitive Collection laserdisc, reinstating lines from the original 1977 theatrical monomix.

Relive the magic with the film that started it all, the way you remember it. From the editor that brought you Deleted Magic.

Features: Feature-length Audio Commentary by: George Lucas, Anthony Daniels, David Prowse, Peter Mayhew, Kenny Baker,
Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford, Garrick Hagon, Ken Ralston, Dennis Muren, Ralph McQuarrie, Charles Lippincott, James Earl Jones, John Williams, Irvin Kerschner, Frank Oz, Jeremy Bulloch, Matthew Carter

16:9 Anamorphic Widescreen

Dolby Digital Sound

Isolated Score by John Williams

Interactive Menus by Van Ling

Twentieth Century Fox presents a Lucasfilm Ltd. production
Star Wars
Mark Hamill Harrison Ford Carrie Fisher
Peter Cushing
and Alec Guinness

Written and directed by George Lucas Produced by Gary Kurtz Music by John Williams


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#147063
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147063/action/topic#147063
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Some have asked what the text on the back of the covers ought to be. Well, here goes - my blurb for the film I guess.



The original version of The Empire Strikes Back. Not the way it was, but the way you remember it.

Relive the original version of one of the greatest science fiction/fantasy films ever made, with this faithful reproduction of the original release of The Empire Strikes Back.

It is a dark time for the Rebellion. Although the Death Star has been destroyed, Imperial troops have driven the Rebel forces from their hidden base and pursued them across the galaxy. Evading the dreaded Imperial Starfleet, a group of freedom fighters led by Luke Skywalker has established a new secret base on the remote ice world of Hoth. The evil lord Darth Vader, obsessed with finding young Skywalker, has dispatched thousands of remote probes into the far reaches of space...

The Empire Strikes Back is not just a sequel to Star Wars. It goes beyond the original and in many ways surpasses it.

Using video from official DVD and laserdisc sources, the 1980 theatrical version of the film has been reproduced in pristine DVD quality, equal to the 2004 DVD release. CGI Special Edition elements have been eliminated, and a new soundtrack has been created for this disc, based on the 35mm mix heard on the 1993 Definitive Collection laserdisc, but reinstating some lines and music cues from the 70mm version as heard in more recent releases.

Relive the magic with one of the greatest science fiction/fantasy films ever made, the way you remember it. From the editor that brought you Deleted Magic.

Features:

Isolated Score by John Williams

16:9 Anamorphic Widescreen

Dolby Digital Sound

****** scene comparison featuring the voices of **** and *******
(censored to keep it a surprise)


Interactive Menus by Van Ling

TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX Presents a LUCASFILM LTD. Production
STAR WARS EPISODE V THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
Starring MARK HAMILL HARRISON FORD CARRIE FISHER
BILLY DEE WILLIAMS and ANTHONY DANIELS as C-3PO
Co-Starring DAVID PROWSE as Darth Vader KENNY BAKER as R2-D2
PETER MAYHEW as Chewbacca FRANK OZ as Yoda
Directed by IRVIN KERSHNER Produced by GARY KURTZ
Screenplay by LEIGH BRACKETT and LAWRENCE KASDAN Story by GEORGE LUCAS
Executive Producer GEORGE LUCAS Music by JOHN WILLIAMS

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#147062
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Star Wars: Deleted Magic (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147062/action/topic#147062
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Some have asked what the text on the back of the covers ought to be. Well, here goes - my blurb for the film I guess.


"Deleted scenes.

Alternate footage.

A look behind the scenes at what didn't
make it to the final cut of the Star Wars trilogy."



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Deleted Magic
A film by Garrett Gilchrist

So you think you know all there is to know about the Star Wars trilogy? Now, go behind the scenes with this in-depth look about the scenes that didn't make it to the final cut of Star Wars.

"It's great! ... What a terrific edit and collating job and such very good quality reproduction!" - Garrick Hagon, "Biggs Darklighter"

"Absolutely one of the best things to come out of fandom ever." - Skot Kirkwood, starwarscutscenes.com

"Deleted Magic" is a feature-length documentary about the deleted scenes of the Star Wars trilogy, and a completely different way of looking at Star Wars. It deconstructs the film to show you how the movies we know and love really came to be. It is taken from footage, information and home videos officially released by Lucasfilm. The project combines alternate, deleted and making-of footage into a full-length film that gives you a new perspective on how the masterpiece we know as Star Wars was edited together.

In addition to rare deleted scenes like the Biggs Darklighter material, you'll get a sense of the "Lost Cut" of the film, a longer edit that didn't have finished voices or effects. Whether you're a casual viewer or you're a hardcore Star Wars fan and you think you've seen it all, you'll find this film is full of surprises.

"Deleted Magic" is an unofficial, not-for-profit research project, created in the truest spirit of fandom to be both informative and entertaining.

Special Features:

Animated menus & Chapter Selection.
"Play Deleted Scenes Only" feature.
"Play Deleted Scenes/Film with Extra Notes" feature.
"Deleted Magic: The Empire Strikes Back" & "Deleted Magic: Return of the Jedi" featurettes.
"Lapti Nek" extended music video, and "Making of Lapti Nek" featurette.
Extensive photo galleries featuring deleted scenes from five Star Wars films.
Extended Garrick Hagon (Biggs Darklighter) interview.
Jefferson Starship "Light the Sky on Fire" music video.
Kenner Toys Ad (1978).
Original 1977 opening crawl.
Declan Mulholland Jabba clip from "From Star Wars to Jedi."
Chief Bast clip from the Star Wars Holiday Special.
DVD-ROM content including the four original drafts of Star Wars, drafts of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, the Lost Cut crawl, "Anatomy of a Dewback" pt. 2, Attack of the Clones "Droid Ship" deleted scene, and a rough version of the ROTJ SE ending.
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#147036
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***The Official NON-Star Wars FAN EDIT*** Release Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147036/action/topic#147036
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It's insane to combine the three ED movies into one, it's just not possible due to cast and plot changes and you wind up missing out on some of the best parts of all three movies (which are the recaps and how they change or suddenly include Bridget Fonda).

Better to do the films separately.

Extending and fixing Army of Darkness on its own is definitely a good idea.


I actually did this myself a few years ago on digital8. Some ED2 shots were used at the beginning, Sci-fi and other deleted scenes inserted, etc. Would like to see AOD properly restored using the actual M2V encode from the MGM version as much as possible. Dig it.
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#147027
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147027/action/topic#147027
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Trust me, the single layer version is perfect. The files do not take up enough disc space to make a dual layer version necessary in any way.


The build files exist and you can specifically request that I burn the VOB files onto two DVDs, for you to burn your own dual layer copy. However, this is unnecessary and not necessarily recommended.

I know that you, segaflip, will be posting this on the newsgroups or whatever, so the dual layer version might be fun to post there, but yeah, it's not necessary in the least.


I don't want people coming to me asking for a dual layer version.
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#146815
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/146815/action/topic#146815
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I took the poster and retouched it to this:

http://orangecow.org/starwars/swcovers-ocp/esbretouchweb.jpg

And created this disc art.

(REVISED WITH BETTER MEDIA 10/30/05)

http://orangecow.org/starwars/swcovers-ocp/esbclassicdiscartweb.jpg

Not great, but it'll do. Note that the teaser "Vader" poster is snuck in there.

Here's the big version for printing.

http://orangecow.org/starwars/swcovers-ocp/esbclassicdiscartbig.jpg



MORE COVERS:
http://orangecow.org/starwars/swcovers-ocp/
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#146795
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/146795/action/topic#146795
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Incidentally, it's been on my mind that I should probably choose an alternate poster for the disc art (and perhaps some versions of the cover) to distinguish this from other versions of the film, as I did with the first Star Wars and the style D.

Sadly, I just plain prefer the various versions of the "real" poster (of which there are many variations - the blue one, the blue one with Yoda and a "red" one with a tiny Fett and Lando visible).

Coov's red Vader was nice.

But after much soul searching, if I need an alternate I'd like to use this one:


http://www.artoosnews.com/images2003/esbaudvd.jpg


I don't have a high res of this one though, I have one that's bigger than this but it's pretty cruddy. Can anyone scan this at a really nice size from somewhere?

The color scheme is awful but the selection of characters and the art is pretty good. If someone was clever enough to Photoshop it to be less green and red, it might work all right.

I guess I'm going to go ahead and use a low quality version of this for the disc art for now.

I'd also be interested in a variation based on the old action figure packages but applying that to disc art doesn't seem possible. =)