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#169054
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/169054/action/topic#169054
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The problem was a misplaced chapter marker, so that when you click to watch the Emperor scene alone, you only get the first bit of it.

If anyone has this copy of Empire, and wants to see the Ian McDiarmid version of the Emperor scene, just switch audio tracks when watching your copy of Empire Classic. You can watch the entire film with the Ian McDiarmid voice instead of Clive Revill - it's on an alternate audio track.
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#169010
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/169010/action/topic#169010
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Come to think of it, there MIGHT have been a version which slipped out there, just 1 or 2 copies, which had an error in the emperor easter egg. I'd forgotten about that.



It's certainly a VERY minor error. The world can live without one easter egg!


It still exists on the disc either way, you can access it by changing audio tracks while watching that scene.
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#168980
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168980/action/topic#168980
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>> OK, I was playing about this today and I stumbled upon the sort-of "easter egg" of the emperor scene with the Ian McDiarmid dialouge edited to make it follow the original lines, and not the goofy 2004 DVD McDiarmid lines. This was a great addition! I wish I had noticed that one before. Good job, Ocpmovie!


Glad you liked!

The main problem with the McDiarmid audio is that it's ... delivered ... slooooowly.

I had to speed it up an incredible amount to make it work the way it should. Sometimes it became choppy - An interesting challenge. It could be done better in Protools, or with Lucasfilm's own equipment. =)


I thought that that easter egg was pretty easy to find -- I didn't try to hide it.

There are many more easter eggs on Jedi, and they're all much more hidden.

=D
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#168735
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Classic Edition: Return of the Jedi by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168735/action/topic#168735
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I've learned that if it's not anamorphic widescreen taken DIRECTLY from the original encode without editing or reencoding ... it ain't worth doin'. =)



I feel such a swell of pride seeing Jedi and Empire looking just as good as the 2004 DVDs and knowing that's possible. AOD would benefit from the same treatment.


Anyway.


I've done another pass on the sound sync. I'm flying blind so to speak, editing the sound to no picture at all and getting it closer bit by bit. This is such an insanely arduous process. I'm pretty close now. This might be the last pass. I hope so.
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#168722
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Classic Edition: Return of the Jedi by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168722/action/topic#168722
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Okay Alex, if you're doing a long AOD ... I don't know if you've planned anything yet, so let me just give you MY notes on what I was going to do. It might help.

I did a long AOD in ... 1999. It was analog, not DVD, so the quality is crap compared to what's out now, but I learned what had to be done.

These are my notes to myself. Enjoy!


Anchor Bay releases it in the US, in shitty picture quality. Ignore that version. There's a version from ... Korea or Hong Kong ... which is by MGM. The picture quality is aces, and it's the director's cut. Get THAT version.

Most of the movie goes unchanged. You gotta do what I did with the Classic Editions and rip the M2V files from the disc and use THOSE in your DVD making program for 90% of the movie, not anything that's been touched and reencoded by your editing program. You'll sneak your own version in when needed and match the frame.

You need the version that aired on the sci-fi channel. It contains two of the deleted scenes in better quality than on the Anchor Bay release. A good version of the extra opening scene where Ash fights Arthur, and a good (and shorter) version of a scene where Ash is lured outside of the windmill (an attempt at building suspense).

The deleted scenes you need from the Anchor Bay release are Ash inviting Henry the Red, and the alternate opening. These are in shitty quality, and need to be color corrected to make them useable at all. You also need to cut out the splice marks on every shot, as these are from workprint.

You are not using the entire alternate opening, just a few extra bits from it to extend the beginning. You need Ash saying "it got into my hand and it went bad - so I LOPPED IT OFF AT THE WRIST." A nice different delivery. You can use the picture from the theatrical. You need Ash shouting and summoning as blue light flashes. ("Kallakah" I think he's shouting.) I forget what the other bits are.

You need footage from Evil Dead 2, most notably a closeup shot of Ash screaming in the vortex as electricity surges around him. That extends the opening slightly.

From the theatrical cut you'll be using "Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun", "maybe I'm a Chinese jetpilot" (audio only, don't need to redo the picture), and the ending. Seamless branching will make it easy enough to include the alternate ending also. Just stick it in its own chapter after the feature - it will already start on the same frame as your own ending, since you're using the MGM DVD. Create a "story" that rearranges the order and you're all good.
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#168675
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Classic Edition: Return of the Jedi by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168675/action/topic#168675
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The disc is now done, I think! I got up at 4AM this morning - it's 11 now and I spent the time finishing resyncing the sound - a painstaking process and a lot of work, trial and error and annoyance ... I think I've finally gotten it right.

I've done Jabba's subtitles, and at the end on the same subtitle track you'll see some brief credits for this edition. I've thanked a few people who deserved thanking. =)

I'll burn the disc as is and test it thoroughly to make sure it's perfect. But I can send out orders soon. Maybe not til next weekend since I work, but soon.

This completes the Classic Edition trilogy. It is also my last Star Wars disc, as far as I know right now.


It's been a good run.


Would like to thank everybody for all the moral support, and the more tangible support, during all this. It's been fun and I'm glad to have done this for the community - I think they're the best releases out there. But that's just me.


I will go back to concentrating more on my own films - I've got a few sci-fi related projects in the pipeline which ought to be of interest.

But I think I'll keep making fan DVDs.

I am still planning an expanded version of The Bonzo Dog Band: Talking Pictures, which was one of my more popular releases. It was previously on one disc, now it'll be on at least three discs with a lot of added footage.

Baby Hum is sending me some material for a possible restoration of Richard Williams' classic animated film The Thief and the Cobbler (Williams also animated Who Framed Roger Rabbit).

I MIGHT, MIGHT possibly be considering an extended cut of Army of Darkness, and a multi-angle greenscreen cut of Sin City. Possibly not, though.
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#168527
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//RETURNING TO JEDI\\: NTSC & PAL DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168527/action/topic#168527
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Well, I haven't seen your disc so I can only comment on what I did.

To avoid it becoming a 3 hour epic, you don't show the movie clip itself except briefly, and omit any scene you have no information on ... greatly shortening the amount of the actual movie people have to watch.

The main way to keep people's interest is to be funny. One of the funny things I was going to do in Jedi was play many of the stunts in slow motion to show people how everyone is obviously not actually hitting each other (Luke's action on the sail barge being ridiculous even in normal motion). I'm syncing Endor now and Han reacts to a punch on Endor before it hits, and then there's this jump cut as Chewie shoots a biker scout.

Terrible directing in the movie. Oh, and pointing out background aliens. The zoom function being your friend.
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#168522
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Classic Edition: Return of the Jedi by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168522/action/topic#168522
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A while back, I saw a posting by someone on a site, might have been X-Entertainment, confused about suddenly seeing the Jedi briefing room sequence filled full of Orrimarko aliens, which he'd never seen before. (He thought it was a special edition change, or something.)


I never noticed those aliens before, but while doing this sync I've been forced to look closely at weird parts of the frame, and DAMN if I don't notice them now. They're everywhere.

They were there in 1983 though. i checked.
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#168518
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//RETURNING TO JEDI\\: NTSC & PAL DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168518/action/topic#168518
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Multiscreen? Sounds like a messy way to go. Rather than trying to follow the entire film shot by shot this time, compile your clips and let their rhythm dictate your work rather than letting the rhythm of the film dictate it. You can always repeat audio, use alternate audio and music, and let the sequence play out as longer or shorter depending on what you do.

By the way, I've just figured out that the clip seen in the end credits of Empire of Dreams, of R2-D2 cleaning Luke's X-wing, is from Return of the Jedi. I thought it was from Empire, but in the establishing shot of Dagobah, you can see a wide angle of R2 doing just that!


To blur a portion of an image, you create a duplicate of the image and place it over itself. You blur one of them and crop it, with a feather around the edge.


The trailers will give you a few alternate angles, including Luke saying "Is Darth Vader my father?"
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#168483
Topic
Classic Edition: Return of the Jedi by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168483/action/topic#168483
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I started a new job this week, so I was out of commission for the last couple days, but I'm now doing the sound syncing, which apart from the Jabba subtitles is the very last thing that needs to be done for this thing to be done ....

The 2004 DVD sound, for some reason, constantly goes out of sync with the new picture when I use it. No idea why, as the picture edits are the same.

There is no way to predict what the sync will be like from using the sound with my original edits in Final Cut Pro.

So what I do is - I play back the DVD itself on my DVD player, and capture THAT analog to my hard drive as a guide. I then sync the sound to that captured picture. And it matches!
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#168341
Topic
Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168341/action/topic#168341
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On a close look - they're more like painted sketches than actual paintings. There's very little detail in them. (ANH has a lot more detail, but is still loosely done.)

Lovely design though. Might be worth working with. If one wanted to take forever and incorporate at 50% intensity the actual stills these paintings are based on to add detail .... lol. What a waste of time that could be.

By the way - 1997 sarlaac in the Jedi one. =(