Many claim that the early 70s movies, characterized by gritty often depressing themes, lead to the theater shift toward happy, any age going movies. Rocky then Star Wars being contributors to that shift which would make the 80s what they become. So if you want to dip back a year, you can toss Rocky onto your watch pile.
Superheroes, this is a SW forum... Ships? Aliens? Jedi? everyone uses a different pic of 3po?
^ yeah was about to type something similar. Could be the death knell for ILM physical effects.
but maybe all that gear is going to some small upstart company.
Sluggo wrote: what do you mean? A sign of anything specific?
Think of this action as a move on a chess board. They are setting up something, or finishing off a series of moves. Kerner Optical was the origins of ILM. The Presidio replaced the need for this company. Yet it was kept around till now. (and it's not definitely going completely under/away) So why are the assets of this company being reconsidered after all this time? Maybe sentimentality has run it's course, maybe this was all part of the Presidio shift over and these are some of the remaining details to get worked through. Not sure.
The documents that the above link can be downloaded for free. I'd do it but i've gone over my 'free' limit for the quarter. All public court documents are available through PACER.gov. You set up an account (credit card req'd) and every quarter you are allowed $10 of documents. (each search/page is $.08) The lawyer on the job got 70k. (think that's what "Disclosure of Compensation of Attorney for Debtor" means) Don't know if that's a big or small fee for a lawyer.
Kerner Optical, LLC (used to be part of ILM) has filed for bankrupcy. (Chapter 11)
Chapter 11 Voluntary Petition, Fee Amount $1039, Filed by Kerner Optical, LLC. Order Meeting of Creditors due by 02/11/2011. (Chandler, David) (Entered: 02/04/2011)
Probably inevitable as most of ILM moved to the Presidio development.
wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerner_Optical
Kerner Optical started when George Lucas discovered that 20th Century Fox had closed down their special effects department after Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope was green lit for production. Lucas then started his own special effects company, Industrial Light & Magic.
In Chapter 11, in most instances the debtor remains in control of its business operations as a debtor in possession, and is subject to the oversight and jurisdiction of the court.
Some reorganizing, could be a sign of things to come.
Official Response:
http://noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM_FAQ.html#LibraryOfCongress_permissionsResponse
2011.03.11
Library of Congress
Copyright Office
101 Independence Ave., S.E.
Washington, D.C. 20559-6000
Title: 'Thee Backslacpkping With Media' Control Number: 81-512-1302(L)
To whom it may concern,
This letter is to explain my position why the work, 'Thee Backslacpkping With Media' should be included into the Library of Congress.
Although advised by examiner, Gareth James, that the commentary portion of this presentation could be included as just the text, I informed him that both the audio/video and commentary were 98% recycled. So I am proceeding with the 'Performing Arts' registration, realizing that it will most likely be denied, because the 700+ permissions have not been obtained.
I view this presentation as citizen journalism. Although it was 2005 (before youtube) vast volumes of media data was available for consuming and reinterpretation.
I don't claim to own copyright of any of the pieces in this presentation. Just like the author of a book doesn't claim ownership of the letters 'C' or 'P'. Letters are the tools of writers. Media sources and their sentence, word fragments or images are the building blocks of my attempt at citizen journalism. And that collective re-newsing is what I feel deserves a copyright registration. I understand this registration doesn't protect me from future lawsuits dealing with the individual reuse cases from their owners. All published versions of 'Thee Backslacpkping With Media' has been dedicated to the Public Domain, Creative Common's license CC0 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication.
According to the Library of Congress' website: (http://www.loc.gov/about/mission.html)
Quote: "The Library's mission is to support the Congress in fulfilling its constitutional duties and to further the progress of knowledge and creativity for the benefit of the American people."
If the Library of Congress denies works on the lack of permission claim, they are failing to support their Congress persons, since much of public knowledge falls into this grey area which has been created by advances in technology.
The Library of Congress is acknowledging this grey area and the media landscape shift with two recent acquisitions.
1. http://twitter.com/librarycongress/status/12169442690
Quote: "Library to acquire ENTIRE Twitter archive -- ALL public tweets, ever, since March 2006! Details to follow.
10:36 AM Apr 14th, 2010 via web Retweeted by 100+ people"
All those retweets are given equal time in the Library of Congress archive, even though they are 99% exact copies of their source.
2. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/sports/09archive.html?src=twrhp
Title: Library of Congress Buys Audio Archive
Quote: "Miley was a junior at Bosse High School in 1947 when he began taping sporting events as a hobby with a $165 wire recorder that his father bought from Sears & Roebuck."
These are illegal recordings according to the Permission rules applied to my project. Except these sporting event recordings are completely unaltered. Everything in 'Thee Backslacpkping With Media' has been processed / analyzed and reconfigured so that it tells a new story or enlightens upon a larger topic which wasn't necessarily the primary focus of the original recordings. Which is one of the guides in copyright legislation; does the work provide commentary, criticism, news reporting, research or scholarship.
It's the viewpoint of myself, that this type of presentation will be possible in future search engines. We have archives of video data (C-Span, youtube, etc.), the public is beginning to tag the data with meta values and recently even subtitles. Search engines can process the subtitle text just as easily as a webpage's text, so implementing simple video editing to the subtitles will make search results of processed video a reality. Presentations like 'Thee Backslacpkping With Media' will become commonplace, it might not be pretty but it is informative.
In all reproductions of 'Thee Backslacpkping With Media' all the original sources are declared so that the entity interacting with the project can seek out the original source. I will not be attempting to get 700+ permissions for a variety of reasons.
If denied, I will anonymously donate 'Thee Backslacpkping With Media' to the Library of Congress.
Thanks for your time and consideration, sincerely.
Peter A Lopez
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Project-To-Collect-All-Star-Wars-Documentaries/topic/2506/ (Warning Extreme Hiatus)
Going thru the PACER (http://www.pacer.gov/) database brings up many cases I didn't know existed. It seems there was a significantly wider effort in 2005 to combat internet copyright infringement. The US had just installed the Family Copyright Act and these cases are some of the ones attempting to see it implemented.
16 Lucasfilm LTD (pla) gandce 1:2005-cv-01440 820 06/02/2005 02/27/2006 Lions Gate Films, Inc. et al v. Does 1 - 17 17 Lucasfilm LTD (pla) gandce 1:2005-cv-01966 820 07/28/2005 03/01/2006 Lions Gate Films, Inc. et al v. Does 1 - 28 18 Lucasfilm LTD (pla) gandce 1:2005-cv-01967 820 07/28/2005 12/14/2005 Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation et al v. Does 1 - 27 19 Lucasfilm LTD (pla) gandce 1:2005-cv-01968 820 07/28/2005 08/25/2006 Disney Enterprises, Inc. et al v. Does 1-3 and 11 20 Lucasfilm LTD (pla) gandce 1:2005-cv-02511 820 09/28/2005 05/04/2006 Paramount Pictures Corporation et al v. Does 1 - 14 21 Lucasfilm LTD (pla) gandce 1:2005-cv-02512 820 09/28/2005 05/02/2006 Lions Gate Films, Inc. et al v. Does 1 - 21 22 Lucasfilm LTD (pla) gandce 1:2005-cv-03041 820 11/30/2005 06/07/2006 New Line Productions, Inc. et al v. Does 1 - 34
82 Lucasfilm Ltd. (pla) moedce 4:2005-cv-00898 820 06/02/2005 11/16/2005 Disney Enterprises, Inc. et al v. Does 1-18 83 Lucasfilm Ltd. (pla) moedce 4:2005-cv-01178 820 07/28/2005 03/24/2006 New Line Productions, Inc. et al v. Does 1-18 84 Lucasfilm Ltd. (pla) moedce 4:2005-cv-01582 820 09/28/2005 07/11/2006 Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation et al v. Does 1-11 85 Lucasfilm Ltd. (pla) moedce 4:2006-cv-00617 820 04/12/2006 07/19/2006 Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc. et al v. Does 1 - 20
91 Lucasfilm Ltd. (pla) nysdce 1:2005-cv-06761 820 07/28/2005 12/15/2005 Universal City Studios Productions LLLP et al v. Does 92 Lucasfilm Ltd. (pla) nysdce 1:2005-cv-06762 820 07/28/2005 11/10/2005 Disney Enterprises, Inc. et al v. Does 93 Lucasfilm Ltd. (pla) nysdce 1:2005-cv-06763 820 07/28/2005 10/26/2005 Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation et al v. Does 94 Lucasfilm Ltd. (pla) nysdce 1:2005-cv-08336 820 09/28/2005 06/08/2006 Disney Enterprises, Inc. et al v. Does 1-58
Would like to review these documents. (and there's tons of other things which could be interesting) But need some assistance to speed up the process. What I am asking people to do is create an account at PACER.gov and in a semi-coordinated effort, download the documents everyone finds interesting. But there are possible fees, here's how that works.
On the front page of PACER (http://www.pacer.gov/) at the bottom is a paragraph which explains the fees of the site.
Expanded PACER Fee Waiver In March 2010, the Judicial Conference of the United States approved reducing the costs for many users of the PACER system. The Electronic Public Access fee schedule has been adjusted so PACER usage of less than $10 in a quarterly billing cycle is waived, in effect quadrupling the amount of data available without charge. Previously, usage under $10 in a calendar year was waived.
All users of PACER will receive a quarterly invoice or statement indicating the amount of quarterly charges and amount waived (if under $10). Users registered for paperless statements will receive an emailed notice of billing. The email contains the account balance, payment due date and a link to view the invoice or statement.
The idea is to coordinate the efforts of multiple people to download the documents, all staying under the $10 limit. (i'm already $100+ in the hole)
I'm going to make a webpage which will house the documents, and coordinate this effort.
If you are interested please e-mail me at: pl1x@earthlink.net
Ripplin wrote:
I still have an old episode of Inside Edition that spoke about the rampant bootlegging on TPM in 1999. It's really interesting, especially the part that says they're allowed to sell up to a certain dollar amount. :s They go into shops wiht hidden cameras and try to buy copies. There are others that have them spread out on the sidewalks, too.
Would be more then happy to digitize that for you.
Recently digitized a copy of the Dateline piece "Phantom Taping" from 1999 on the topic. The laws these reports choose to talk about are interesting, in the Dateline piece they claim it's not illegal to purchase bootlegs, which I guess gives them clearance to do this type of reporting, ie buying pirate versions and talking about them. There's a few other oddities in the Dateline report, more on that later, the screen caps say it all. That's another thing on the random to do list, see if I can get those reporters to talk about their remembrances.
The blanket spread out with tapes is a common sidewalk thing. Makes it easy to grab'n'go.
Have recently been going through PACER (Public Access to Court Electronic Records) http://www.pacer.gov/
getting some of the public records for the various related trials. Trying to get a better sense of the vastness of the US Government records. Although it's one case, that case had decisions made by multiple departments and each department has it's own FOIA submittal issues. What's nice about PACER is in any quarter if your searches/results stay under 10 bucks (.08/search/page) it's free. So far have 'USA v. Hoaglin', 'USA v. Lumada, et al', 'USA v. McCausland'. Will get some more when there's time. Started looking into 'USA vs. Spatafore' but records past a certain number of years go into long storage, so will have to write a letter to get those. There were a bunch of other records for this guy, they had him on a payment schedule but after a few years it took him under and there are some bankrupcy documents...
Attempting to identify the version Spatafore had, unfortuantely the waybackmachine didn't exist back then. Need to find some other archive system. Also looking for old .nzbs. Anyone heard of a place collecting those, even though they are unuseable?
Read about how in the late 70s, there were renegade Italian television stations and one called 'Teledrog' played a pirated version of 'Star Wars'.
http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=64166
The best article i've read on this FBI prosecution of a TPM copy.
Prosecuted for enabling illegal downloads of "The Phantom Menace," Jason Spatafore says he’s a scapegoat. The FBI insists it has cornered a real threat to the movie industry. Staff Writer Jason Thompson examines the case that evokes big questions about the role of copyrights in the digital age.
By Jason Thompson
Posted on May 30, 2001In the fall of 1999, a 25-year-old computer technician from Phoenix, Ariz., discovered that "Star Wars: Episode One" was available for free download at NataliePortman.com, an unauthorized fan site for the "Phantom Menace" star. Jason Spatafore (a.k.a., the Disman, due to his love for Disneyland) posted the film at his home page, Spata4ent.com.
http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/Hot_TPM_bootleg_market_in_New_York_City_80203.asp
Hot TPM bootleg market in New York City
Posted By Paul on May 29, 1999Disclaimer: while Star Wars-related bootlegging news interests many of our readers, theForce.net does not condone the unlicensed sale of Star Wars bootlegs.
Reader "Darth Venus" sent this in, regarding Episode I bootlegs:
Just wanted to let you know that this is THE HOTTEST thing in nyc right now..Dealers are sellin out in minutes ...i waited on a LINE to get it on 8th ave. The bootleg i've seen all over town is pretty good...very washed out though not much color..but the audio is very VERY good, even the box was nice..looks real!...I asked The guy how its been ..He said He gets about 50 then there gone in minutes...His pager was going OFF for requests on where do get it..as i walked down the street.people were walking up to me asking if i could it for them or point them in the right direction...was very surreal, He said that the word on tha street is that a BETTER quality copy is hitting soon..with the audio dubbed straight to tape instead of it just being recorded in the theater...all an all if u want it its there ,but its hard to find..The guy i asked said he wasnt puttin it out to display..but if u asked he'd sell it..IF HE HAS IT!...also I saw a few vcds in china town going for about 7-10 bucks..but everyone i talked to about it was VERY VERY shady about it, even to the point of pretending to not know english when i spoke about it..but when i bought a john woo film..PERFECT english ..ha!...feel free to post all this..
Reader RojBlake7 also sent in some information from the southern U.S.:
Wanted to let you know that Bootlegs have hit the south! I picked up near Atlanta GA and a friend of mine a little south found some! $10 each and not as bad looking as i would have thought
Also, Shannon Opiela sent in an alert that http://www.vcdvision.com is openly selling copies, and even sending soliciting email to increase sales.
Finally, reader "BathTub" pointed us to an online story here about an online MPEG version.
http://www.isonews.com/misc/news/news.htm Article about MPEG version. (link inactive)
http://boards.theforce.net/the_phantom_menace/b10007/15911776/r15921475/
I saw it before in a bootleg version from the net..
Of course, I saw a bootleg version in June. Again, all stupid Germany's fault. Cool movie, but a ******* bootleg
http://www.theforce.net/holonet/story/Star_Wars_Prosecution_for_Kazaa_63797.asp
Jason Spatafore, 25, pleaded guilty to posting just one movie on the Web--"Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace"--in December 2000.
http://www.theforce.net/episode1/story/Russian_TPM_Bootlegs_80156.asp
Supposedly this version is the movie with a voice over translation in Russian!
http://www.theforce.net/episode1/story/Lynne_Hale_Comments_on_TPM_Net_Bootlegs_80177.asp
Lynne Hale Comments on TPM Net Bootlegs From the Hollywood Reporter ...
Star Wars: The cybermenace
Full-length copies of "Star Wars: Episode I -- The Phantom Menace" have been discovered in downloadable form on Internet sites as film piracy enters the cyberspace era. Other complete motion pictures, including "The Matrix" and "Payback," are finding their way onto the Internet within days of release or, as in the case of "The Blair Witch Project," sometimes even before the film hits theaters.
"We're taking a very aggressive stance and working with the FBI and the MPAA to go after anybody who has put or intends to put our film on the Web," Lucasfilm spokeswoman Lynne Hale said, noting that the copies brought to Lucasfilm's attention thus far have been "of very poor quality." While that may be true, particularly in the case of bootlegs obtained by sneaking a camera into a movie theater, some observers claim to enjoy downloaded dupes with crisp imagery and pristine digital sound.
Stopping Bootleggers
Anyone with information pertaining to the selling and distribution of bootleg copies online, or in any format, please send it to hotline@mpaa.org, the MPAA's anti-piracy hotline. (The MPAA rewards program could earn you $15,000 if you report someone.)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/1999/jun/02/news
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/1999/jun/03/news
Film Unlimited however has been informed that the internet copy - which has apparently been copied directly from the movie reel, not shot from the screen as originally suggested - is of a satisfactory quality.
TWC289
TREADWELL COLLECTION
Contents:
Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition News
Star Wars IMAX/Special Effects News
Star Wars : An MTV Movie Special
Star Wars Commercials - Special Edition Era
More Star Wars
Star Trek First Contact News
Other Trailers and News Reports
Digitized by %20 in conjunction with :F:L:I:M:S:I:P:L:A:S:T: :D:A:T:A:B:A:S:E:
Sony Video Cassette Recorder SLV-779HF -> Sony Digital Video Camera Recorder DCR-PC100 -> iMovieHD -> Final Cut Pro -> DVD Studio Pro
WARNING: Federal law provides severe civil and criminal penalties for unauthorized reproduction, distribution or exhibition of copyrighted motion pictures, video tapes or video discs. Criminal copyright infringement is investigated by the FBI and they constitute a felony with a maximum penalty of up to five years in prison and/or a $250,00 fine.
But the :F:L:I:M:S:I:P:L:A:S:T: :D:A:T:A:B:A:S:E: believes that obsolete media occupies a class of as yet undefined orphaned work which deserve some protection under copyright legislation.
Storylines
0. All
1. Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition News
2. Star Wars IMAX/Special Effects News
3. Star Wars : An MTV Movie Special
4. Star Wars Commercials - Special Edition Era
5. More Star Wars
98. Star Trek First Contact News
99. Other Trailers and News Reports
Storyline - 01 - Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition News
01 - Jabba
02 - X-Wing Attack
03 - CNN Newsource 1/19/97 8:30PM - 266 REFEED/WHBQ: Star Wars - Casey Wian (FRI730P) PKG 1:48
04 - CNN Newsource 1/20/97 6:30PM - 198 SHOWBIZ: Star Wars Premiere - VO/NAT :40
05 - Turner Entertainment Report Hollywood - "Star Wars" Re-Release Premiere (PKG) Produced by: Elliott Francis
06 - Turner Entertainment Report Hollywood - "Star Wars" Re-Release Premiere (VOSOT) Produced by: Elliott Francis
07 - 10NA - National Newsfeed - NA049 - Entertainment - Enhanced 'Star Wars' Release - pkg/nat / 1:34 - Mark McEwen / CBS - 1/21/97
08 - 10NA - National Newsfeed - NA049 - Entertainment - Enhanced 'Star Wars' Release - vosot/nat / 1:34 - Mark McEwen / CBS - 1/21/97
Storyline - 00 - Star Trek First Contact News
09 - CNN Newsource Aug 1 - 65 - Entertainment: Star rek/First Contact - Michael - pkg 2:17
10 - CNN Newsource Aug 1 - 66 - Entertainment: Star Trek/First Contact - Tease - vo/nat :40
11 - Turner Entertainment Report Hhollywood - Hollywood Newsreel: Patrick Stewart gets star on Hollywood Walk of Fame
12 - 10NA - National Newsfeed - NA041 - Entertainment - Star Trek 30th Anny - pkg / 3:30 - Mark McEwen / CBS AM 10/2/96
13 - Star Trek : The Next Generation : First Contact Teaser
14 - CNN Newsource - Nov 18 - 57 - Film Clips: "Star Trek: First Contact" (Param)Trailer SOT 2:13
15 - CNN Newsource - Nov 19 - 69 - Film Clips: "Star Trek: First Contact" (Param)3 Clips SOT 3:08
16 - Turner Entertainment Report Hollywood - Hollywood Newsreel: Stars "Beam Up" in Hollywood for "Star Trek" Premiere
17 - Paramount Pictures Star Trek First Contact :30 TV Spot "Begins Again" PCSF 6273 - November 22nd - Stereo/Rated PG-13 10/27/96
18 - Paramount Pictures Star Trek First Contact :30 TV Spot "Adventure 20" PCSF 6373 - November 22nd - Stereo/Rated PG-13 10/27/96
19 - Paramount Pictures Star Trek First Contact :15 TV Spot "Begins 15" PCSF 6175 - November 22nd - Stereo/Rated PG-13 10/27/96
20 - Paramount Pictures Star Trek First Contact :15 TV Spot "Adventure 15" PCSF 6275 - November 22nd - Stereo/Rated PG-13 10/27/96
21 - Paramount Pictures Star Trek First Contact :30 TV Spot "Best Ever" PCSF 6R83 - November 22nd - Stereo/Rated PG-13 11/20/96
22 - Paramount Pictures Star Trek First Contact :30 TV Spot "Another Best Ever" PCSF 6T83 - Now Playing - Stereo/Rated PG-13 11/22/96
Storyline - 99 - Other
23 - Jackie Chan's Supercop Trailer
24 - Dimension Films SuperCop Trailer - Ch1- Dialogue - Ch2- Music and FX - trt 1:43 07/19/96
25 - CNN Newscource - 57 Film Clips: "Mission Impossible" (Paramount) Trailer sot 1:53
26 - John Carpenter's Escape From L.A. Trailer
27 - DragonHeart Trailer
28 - The Phantom Trailer
29 - Eraser Trailer
30 - Hunchback of Notre Dame Trailer
31 - Independence Day Trailer
Storyline - 02 - Star Wars IMAX/Special Effects
32 - Turner Entertainment Report Hollywood - IMAX/"Special Effects" (pkg) Produced by: Linda Mour
33 - Turner Entertainment Report Hollywood - IMAX/"Special Effects" (vosot) Produced by: Linda Mour
Storyline - 99 - Other
34 - CNN Newscource Nov 14 - 61 Entertainment: Superman Animated - Dennis Michael pkg 2:23
35 - CNN Newscource Nov 14 - 63 Film Clips: "Space Jam" (Warner Bros) Trailer sot 2:13
36 - Turner Entertainment Report Hollywood - "Space Jam" Special Effects (pkg) Produced by Eric Allen
37 - Turner Entertainment Report Hollywood - "Space Jam" Special Effects (visor) Produced by Eric Allen
38 - Turner Entertainment Report Hollywood - School House Rock: 70's VS 90's (pkg) Produced by : Eric Allen
39 - Turner Entertainment Report Hollywood - School House Rock: 70's VS 90's (visor) Produced by : Eric Allen
40 - CBS News - Travels with Harry - Jacksonville
41 - MTV (End of Rodman Program)
Storyline - 03 - Star Wars : An MTV Movie Special
42 - MTV News Presents with Kurt Loder - Star Wars : An MTV Movie Special
43 - Logo
44 - Characters
45 - Shooting
46 - Culture
47 - BTS
48 - ESB
49 - RotJ
50 - Dialog
51 - Character Development
52 - Actors
53 - Commercials
54 - Special Edition
55 - Restoration
56 - Prequels
57 - Boba Fett
58 - The Movies
59 - Credits
Storyline - 04 - Star Wars Commercials - Special Edition Era
60 - Commercials
61 - Pizza Hut - The Pizza Head Show - 3 Star Wars Posters
62 - Commercials
63 - Taco Bell - Feel the Force Game
64 - Empire Strikes Back Special Edition (Now Playing) - Return of the Jedi (March 14th) - (Still Playing) Star Wars
65 - Commercials
66 - Empire Strikes Back Special Edition (At Theaters Now) - (Still Playing) Star Wars
67 - Commercials
68 - Taco Bell - Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition - Toys 1 of 4?
69 - Commercials
70 - Empire Strikes Back Special Edition (Now Playing) - (March 14th) Return of the Jedi - (Still Playing) Star Wars
71 - Commercials
72 - Empire Strikes Back Special Edition (At Theaters Now) - (Still Playing) Star Wars
73 - Commercials
74 - Empire Strikes Back Special Edition (Feb. 21st)
75 - Commercials
76 - Doritos - 3D Motion Cards
77 - Commercials
78 - Star Wars The Special Edition - Crowds (Now Playing)
78 - Star Wars The Special Edition - (TV Screen) Back on the big screen (Now Playing)
79 - Star Wars The Special Edition - Sneak Preview Crowds (Friday)
80 - Star Wars The Special Edition - Sneak Preview Crowds (Friday)
81 - Star Wars The Special Edition - (TV Screen) Starts Friday Everywhere
82 - Empire Strikes Back Special Edition - (Still Playing) Star Wars
83 - Empire Strikes Back Special Edition (Now Playing) - (March 7th) Return of the Jedi - (Still Playing) Star Wars
84 - Empire Strikes Back Special Edition (Now Playing) - (It's Moving) Return of the Jedi (March 14th) - (Still Playing) Star Wars
85 - Return of the Jedi Special Edition - You haven't seen anything, until you've seen everything (Tomorrow)
86 - Taco Bell - 'Intergalactic Draw' Sweepstakes
Storyline - 05 - More Star Wars
87 - SNL - Shopping at Home Network - Mark Hamill
Storyline - 04 - Star Wars Commercials - Special Edition Era
88 - Galoob Toys, Inc. - Micro Machines - Action Fleet - Shadows of the Empire
Storyline - 05 - More Star Wars
89 - Oscars - Billy Crystal
Screen Caps:
Menu
TREADWELL COLLECTION
Prior to the digital days, Star Wars media collecting took place in the home recording VHS medium. Many thanks go out to TREADWELL who took the time and energy to preserve these Star Wars memories. From specials, commercials, interviews, to news reports and more, these tapes provide view points of the evolution of the Star Wars phenomenon.
TREADWELL COLLECTION List
(VHS Tape Numbers are random, but will be used for identification)
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html
TWC073 : La Guerra de las Galaxias or Draw
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC073
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/589932/#TopicPost589932
TWC127 : ST:Voyager, Masters of Fantasy Trumbull & Muren + More Interviews
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC127
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/583700/#TopicPost583700
TWC176 : SW Muppets and More
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC176
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/504242/#TopicPost504242
TWC197 : The Men Behind the Mask '95:A
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC197
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/590203/#TopicPost590203
TWC217 : Bob Wilkins & Captain Cosmic interview the stars of Star Wars and Star Trek (Unreleased)
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC217
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/559820/#TopicPost559820
TWC222 : Australian Star Wars Media Vol. 1
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC222
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/559822/#TopicPost559822
TWC223 : Australian Star Wars Media Vol. 2
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC223
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/559823/#TopicPost559823
TWC224 : Australian Star Wars Media Vol. 3
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC224
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/559824/#TopicPost559824
TWC240 : The Phantom Menace Cam + Dateline News Report + MTV Dual of the Fates
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC240
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/506689/#TopicPost506689
TWC288 : Kreig der Sterne Fernsehen + TPM Omnibus & More
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC288
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/514689/#TopicPost514689
TWC289 : Special Edition - IMAX & More
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC289
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/483342/#TopicPost483342
TWC298 : 1997 Special Edition Programming
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC298
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/589769/#TopicPost589769
TWC299 : Return of the Jedi News, Special Edition Special + More
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC299
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/579121/#TopicPost579121
TWC300 : 1997 SW Interviews & 83 News
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC300
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/589636/#TopicPost589636
TWC301 : Sansweet Presentation 96, Dave Prowse 94, More Hope
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC301
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/583697/#TopicPost583697
TWC316 : MoF:ILM SW:RS Prequels Parodies More
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC316
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/589538/#TopicPost589538
TWC320 : Empire Strikes Back Era Interviews and Awards Shows
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC320
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/559826/#TopicPost559826
TWC322 : The Men Behind the Mask '95:B + More
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC322
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/590204/#TopicPost590204
TWC323 : Sci-Fi Fisher, SW:IVBG, SWSE + More
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC323
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/583701/#TopicPost583701
TWC326 : Star Wars Pre-ANH Mono-mix Bootleg - Cropped
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC326
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/504062/#TopicPost504062
TWC327 : Star Wars Special Edition, Prequel, The Magic of Myth, Maltin, Muppets More
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC327
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/583698/#TopicPost583698
TWC328 : Return of the Jedi Bootleg - Manual Pan & Scan version
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC328
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/488225/#TopicPost488225
TWC337 : Australian Phantom Menace Opening Day News Coverage 1
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC337
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/1126925/#TopicPost1126925
TWC338 : Australian Phantom Menace Opening Day News Coverage 2
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC338
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/1126926/#TopicPost1126926
TWC339A : Star Wars Media 1995 to 1999
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC339A
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/1126927/#TopicPost1126927
TWC341A : SWSE 1997 & TPM 1999 Media
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC341A
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/1126928/#TopicPost1126928
TWC342A : Magic, Mystery, Menace, Guiness & Costuming
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html#TWC342A
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Treadwell-Collection/post/1126930/#TopicPost1126930
Conversion by %20 & :F:L:I:M:S:I:P:L:A:S:T: 😄:A:T:A:B:A:S:E:
http://noneinc.com/TWC/TWC-index.html
Other %20 / :F:D: Projects can be found at:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/FLIMSIPLAST-DATABASE/id/12708
Do you know who asked for it to be removed from youtube? Much of G4TV's programming is available (at least partly) on their website. There's a good chance programs like this might return this year with the official release as people dust off and relook at their old SW media. Might want to add usenet to your list of places where this might show up.
Would love to also see the G4TV 'Star Wars in Japan Celebration' special.
Quackula wrote: There was a similar band that did it with dogs if I remember right.
Caninus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF7CB5yltbM&feature=related
And now for something completely bored.
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Nice. Haven't used this before, is there an export to a 3D modeling format?
If you would like more photos, the harder-core visit the place often and post flickr sets and they are attempting to rebuild:
http://www.markdermul.be/tatooine/savelars.html
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=star+wars+matmata+tunisia&m=text
Also, what makes a good growl is really hard to pin down
when it's done by a parrott:
When you say assembly, what does that mean exactly. Are you looking through each of those scans for the 'best' quality (frame placement, consistant lighting, x, y, z), or are you averaging the scans as someone had recommended previously?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tceczVPHkTY&feature=related
The best Swedish Elvis evar. Eilert Pilarm everybody give it up.
twooffour wrote: ou aren't gonna like something like this, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNsn7NjDPkM You know, it's easie
moarh pleez
Jambe Davdar wrote: I think I've just found on on page 36 and 37 of Cinefex issue 3 that shows the motor used to move the Tauntaun puppet along to create the motion blur effect.
Initial thought that go-motion would have been used for the shot of Han entering the hangar or approaching Luke. Wouldn't they have moved the camera, not the model?
*EDIT*
Fantastic Films issue 18 has an interview with Phil Tippett, and when talking about the Taun-Tauns they continually mention stop-motion.
pg. 25
FF: The stop-motion Taun creature sounds exciting. What was the genesis of the figure, and who designed it?
Tippett: When I started on Empire, George Luca had been working on the Taun design with Ralph McQuarrie and Joe Johnston. At that time, the way the animal was going to be designed was still up in the air. THere was takl of full size mechanical things, men in suits, stop-motion puppets - they ran the whole gamut of approaches.
I drew up a number of designs based on some of the things Joe had done, as well as some alternatives. Lucas wen for a design of an animal suited for stop-motion, and we spent the next month refining the thing with Irwin Kershner and Gary Kurtz. In September of 1978 we sent a design mock-up to England. They in turn sent back a mock-up with a numbe of practical and aesthetic changes. FOr that point, I began sculpting the final puppet, while Jon Berg and Toom St. Amand found time amongstthe Walker parts to put together a testing armature.
FF: When did test shots begin?
Tippett: That happened at the begninning of 1979. Ken Ralston began integrating the motion control equipemtnn with stop-motion requirements. Dennis Muren and Richard Edlund made a number of contributions. With relatively little adaptation, we got some promiising shots.
We went to the beach and photographed reference material on horses much like we had done with an elephant a few weeks earlier for the Walkers. We set up a situation similat to Muybridge's Animals in Motion, which helped us understand animal movement as it related to film.
I spent the next few months shooting tests, running fur tests, Walker tests. Jon Berg and I developed a final armature that would work better with the motion control equipment. Doug Beswick and Tom St. Amand refined and constructed it. The final The final Taun was ready in August 1979.
But for one reason or another, we didn't start the bulk of the Tuan shooting until January of 1980. We were involved with a number of other projects as well as the stop-motion, and we completed the Taun shots two and a half months later. There's where the planning paid off! There was no time for mistakes. All activity on the stage had to be shut down by mid-March in order to give the optical department time to composite everything.
Here's some more:
Tippett: We got most of our shots on the first take. But all of these problems are indicative of what we've been up against. Occasionally we would have to re-orient our approach to a troublesome shot. Especially with the Taun peppet, since we were dealing with blurs. In attempting to solve that problem, we created five more that had to be fixed.
Hey ho, also a cut scene i'm not familiar with:
FF: Were there stop motion out-takes, shots we will never see in the film?
Tippett: We shot the Walkers and Tauns like everything else in Empire, to replace a rather small slug of film in a particular roll. Everything was organized so that those shots were taken care of first. We were able to add a few extra things. Most of them are in the picture. But the only shot that didn't make it was the two-legged Walker that Joe, Jon and Tom came up with. The shot showed a Speeder strafing the scout Walker. It didn't cut in.
*EDIT*3
ah this was mentioned in the Annotated Screenplays:
http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/index.php?categoryid=10&p2_articleid=392
Well, the big thing that didn't end up in The Empire Strikes Back was the two-legged walker, but it did end up in Jedi. You get a brief glance of it in Empire, but there was a shot, a POV from one of the snowspeeders; the speeder is attacking the walker and passes right over its head. Unfortunately at the very end, we were under a deadline and were literally up all night shooting this scene. Someone didn't tighten up the backing of the painted sky, and no one noticed it. The next day in the dailies, you could see the background slip, and it slipped about eight inches half-way through the shot...It just fell, which completely ruined the shot.
And Now SOme Noise!
^ I have no problem with you feeling the way you do. So when do we get to view the 'I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY MORE' part?
^ very much disagree.
The project is called 'Puggo GRANDE'
Website: http://www.hardbat.com/puggo/puggoGrande.html
OT.com Thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Puggo-GRANDE-16mm-restoration/topic/9752/
music=shit
plunderphonic glitch noise.
influence: Gerogerigegege, Overpeer, V/Vm
