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This thread is about yarn.

^ starwarsarchives.com -> timeline -> 1980 -> Lost Making Of Doc.

It's only the first third or so of the Parbot doc.

From the recent panel: George talks 3D and Prime Focus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drfpc1k3JcY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jFWgbF-pFM
via: mMathab

It's an online popularity poll.  Get yr mind to focus on something important.  Like what type of pants Chewbacca would have worn if George listened to the studio criticism.

Alexrd wrote: I wonder why there was never a petition before for all those (pre-TCW) continuity conflicts.

Double standards, that's what it is.

Who said there weren't petitions about SW continuity before this '2000' one?

^ There's a petition for all this business:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/starwars2000/

Petition of the 2000: Preserving the Integrity of the Star Wars Saga

 

(cut)

Recently, however, there has been serious concern that this unified tapestry is under threat due to a seemingly relaxed attitude to continuity—particularly as it relates to the much welcomed Clone Wars animated TV series.

(cut)

^http://www.unstoppablesignals.com/hnbf

Nathan Fillion:

“Yes. Yes. I would examine very closely Fox’s reasoning — I’m a little gun-shy. If I got $300 million from the California Lottery, the first thing I would do is buy the rights to Firefly, make it on my own, and distribute it on the Internet.”

The Plan was well received by most of the Fans and the pledge numbers continued to rise. Then late March 7th, over 100,000 hearts sank with one tweet. Through Joss Whedon’s sister in-law, the Whedon team expressed that they did not support HNBF (later clarified to express uninvolvement).

Firefly/Serenity have a certain fanbase which is very active in the blog community.  The Serenity movie provides a logical conclusion to one of the major situations of the Firefly show.  (which is being reaired on the Science Channel currently)  Whedon in general is a thing io9 bloggers really dig.  Plus io9 has a lean towards harder sci-fi which partly explains why a fantasy leaning movie can be on equal voting with a show which pays tribute to many of the Star Wars movies attributes.  The debate that Malcolm Reynolds is more or less Han Solo and Firefly = a Han Solo tv show also shows that when they vote for Serenity they are voting for much of what appeals about the OT, but because of the Lucas factor, the vote pushes over to Whedon's show.

Bingowings wrote: George does seem to be more likely to give us a back flipping Alec Guinness than a toned down Christopher Lee.

...as long as Vader's mask is animated with some mandibles or something or other, then bring on the off the chain Guinness Dark-Flip.

Doesn't facebook have an age restriction?  There's going to be a lot of SW fans under the age of 13? without a place to type.

I've alerted the ArchiveTeam (http://www.archiveteam.org) and will be spending time in their irc figuring out how I can help get these forums archived. 

In 2009 the ArchiveTeam was able to save starwars.yahoo.com.

http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Starwars.yahoo.com

Some episodes on starwars.com have a commentary track.  For those who have listened what can be found in them?

TAF wrote: Anyway, do these have any of the censoring in European versions (i.e. no headbutts)?

That's a good point to identify these versions.  the 'Cinema' and 'Centropy' have the headbutt.  And since they have cue marks they are not from a digital screening.

My experience with SONY DL is that they work fine.  A bunch came with the drive so they were the first I used and for couple years they all were fine.  Then one day they stopped being recognized when burning.  Switched to Memorex for a time, then they failed.  Tried a couple other brands as well.  Turns out it was not a disc issue it was the drive getting dusty.  Once blown out everything worked as usual.  Have mailed and handed out over 100 DL discs and haven't gotten back any 'it doesn't play anywhere' comments.  But these experiences are relatively meaningless since i'm only certain of 10% of people who didn't have a problem, the other 90% never heard back from!

(and i see i've told this story earlier in the thread, knew it sounded familiar...)

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Here's two other AotCs for comparison.

'Cinema' - Which looks similar to the 'Gold' the cue mark is in the same orientation.  The colors differ, but most likely they corrected for the DVD.  But 'Cinema's lower frame shows the most of any of these 5.

'ctp' (Centropy) - From one frame inspection is very close to 'CD-Master'.

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sexyloser wrote:

I did a search and found nothing. And I think they're really interesting. To those who haven't seen them. Enjoy. 

The site search engine sometimes does give the greatest results.  so person I use: "site:originaltrilogy.com __insert search term__" in most search engines.

On the auditions, there was a dvd version discussed in another part of the forum.  But since it's a large enough topic having an online watchable version is nice to have. 

If you find random SW videos which you don't think deserves a full thread, there's a thread for those:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/YouTube-Vimeo-etc-Star-Wars-finds/topic/11772/post/488205/#TopicPost488205

Revenge of the Sith

2005-05-19 20:31:53 - Workprint - VCD
Star.Wars.Episode.3.PROPER.WP.VCD-SG18
http://www.vcdq.com/release/14788/Star.Wars.Episode.3.PROPER.WP.VCD-SG18
http://web.archive.org/web/20050520033051/http://www.vcdreview.com/info.php/i-52286.html

2005-05-20
MoBsTeRs - (SW3vcdGF_cd1.bin)
http://web.archive.org/web/20050520033051/http://www.vcdreview.com/info.php/i-52285.html
http://www.sharevirus.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6420&p=12689
http://www.ircamp.com/files/star-wars-episode-3-revenge-of-the-sith-workprint-mobsters-cd1.html
http://www.ircamp.com/files/star-wars-episode-3-revenge-of-the-sith-workprint-mobsters-cd2.html


2005-05-21 04:15:28 - Workprint - VCD (ViSA with OAR)
Star.Wars.Ep3.Revenge.Of.The.Sith.iNTERNAL.WORKPRINT.SVCD-POT (Pirates of the Theatre)
http://www.vcdq.com/release/14827/Star.Wars.Ep3.Revenge.Of.The.Sith.iNTERNAL.WORKPRINT.SVCD-POT

2005-05-29 22:09:51 - Telecine - DVDR (PAL)
Star.Wars.Episode.III.Revenge.of.the.Sith.TC.DVDR-METEOR
http://www.vcdq.com/release/15521/Star.Wars.Episode.III.Revenge.of.the.Sith.TC.DVDR-METEOR

2005-06-18 22:10:09 - DVDSCR - DVDR
Star.Wars.Episode.III.Revenge.of.the.Sith.DVDSCR.NTSC.DVDR-aAF
http://www.vcdq.com/release/14407/Star.Wars.Episode.III.Revenge.of.the.Sith.DVDSCR.NTSC.DVDR-aAF


VCDQuality Archive - 2005
http://web.archive.org/web/20050520033051/http://www.vcdquality.com/



Star Wars Episode 3 2005 WP ViSA
http://www.sharevirus.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4886&p=12537&hilit=sith#p12537

Star Wars Episode III (2005) *TC* - CRDS
Star.Wars.Episode.3.Revenge.Of.The.Sith.iNTERNAL.TC.AC3.5.1.XviD-CRDS.cd1.avi
Star.Wars.Episode.3.Revenge.Of.The.Sith.iNTERNAL.TC.AC3.5.1.XviD-CRDS.cd2.avi
2005-05-24 - XViD
http://www.sharevirus.com/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5078&p=13190&hilit=sith#p13190

Star Wars III TUN SVCD PROPER
2005-05-27 - SVCD - tun-sw3ra (resync'd)
http://www.sharevirus.com/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5139&p=13348&hilit=sith#p13348

Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith TC XViD-MOF
2005-05-28 - Telecine - XviD (Cyrillic Crawl)
http://www.sharevirus.com/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5172&p=13461&hilit=sith#p13461

Star.Wars.The.Revenge.Of.The.Sith.DVDSCR.XViD-MT
2005-08-08 - Telecine
http://www.sharevirus.com/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=7807&p=21532&hilit=sith#p21532

MOVIE Star Wars Episode 3 Die Rache der Sith WORKPRINT LD German VCD GTR rar
http://www.ircamp.com/files/movie-star-wars-episode-3-die-rache-der-sith-workprint-ld-german-vcd-gtr-rar.html



http://www.sharevirus.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=6466&p=17039&hilit=sith#p17039

?°                       Short and to the point.                       °?
   ?                                                                       ?
   ?      This is by far the hardest nfo to write to date 1999-2005.       ?
   ß    PHXiSO has been here like our best friend, and addiction for       ß
   ß    far to many of these FBI bullshit shakedowns..For fucks sake as    ß
        if George Lucas, or Autodesk needs more money? Get fucked you
   ß    know yer doing this so they pad your pockets you fucken cunts!     ß
        ANYWAY we have seen to many good groups come and go. And for us
        its time to pull the plug. To the haters Fuck you. To the people
        who have helped us We have much love and respect for you.

        A simple goodbye, and be safe from your friends at PHXiSO..

|-o-|              |-o-|
          (-o-)

Question : Was digital project fairly common place by RotS?  Even in other countries like Russia?  Am trying to find the cue markers in the Cyrillic crawl version of the RotSs and they're not at the usual 20 minute location.  So wondering if this is a digital projection capture, and I would be wasting my time then.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cerebus/message/65299

> ryan watched ROTS for the fourteenth time today, if L-nny or anyone
> else has any queries/ blasphemous criticisms for me to deal with.

 

I sense an illegal bootlegging disturbance in the force.

 

Anyone got TUN TC with Dutch Subs? MoBsTeRs, SG18? oar iz zee 83z+, /trigger
WorkPrintSithBitch #falcon Nzanzie leeeeeeeech i+ phuckrs. Cyrillic Crawls Rule
Woot! hey Taiwan that's not Sithie, wong action zero.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3339879

(don't know if this is what it says it is.  ie DVDrip, seems early)

2005-06-04
Star.Wars.Episode.III.Revenge.of.the.Sith.INTERNAL.DVDRip.XviD

some notes:

We aren't going to say where the source came from, for obvious reasons. BUT we will say this, it isn't a TC. You can tell
by the way the craft lands, the vibrations etc. It's not a retail though, it ain't far off.

Shouts out to Georgey boy.

                           Release date : -04-06-05-
                                  genre : Sci-Fi
                               imdb url : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766
                            imdb rating : 7.3/10
                                 source : Your mommas pants!
                           Package Type : .RAR (2 CDs)
                              Image Type: BIN/CUE unrared to .AVI (XVID)         
                                  Sample: Yes                          
                                Language: English
                                Subtitle: n/a



YES! This  has English Crawl..
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/StuDaP0O/Bollox/crawl.jpg

Sample Pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/djs6373/MovieClipping1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/djs6373/MovieClipping2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/djs6373/MovieClipping3.jpg

(pic links don't work)

Backstroke of the West (workprint chingrish) : First Blog Mention

http://winterson.com/2005/06/episode-iii-backstroke-of-west.html

Pirated DVD: Star Wars -- Revenge of the Sith (cover pic)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/xeni/18032092/

Box art from an unwatchably shitty copy of Star Wars: ROTS which I purchased in Santee Alley, Los Angeles, for $5 on June 4, 2005. Wired News story here, Boing Boing post here.

It's hard to read the packaging (duh, it's a bootleg), but if you look closely at one of the larger sizes you can see that this was the special edition directed by Jerry Bruckheimer and starring Ben Affleck, Billy Bob Thornton, and Steve Buscemi.

Pirate RotS DVD from workprint, smudged timecode version:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamaleaver/17569317/

Episode 3: Pirate DVD Cover

Region 1 or Region 9? Hmmmmm.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamaleaver/17569146/

Episode 3: Pirate DVD Menu

The menu for a pirated DVD ... or is that game? The "railer" was excellent!

http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=72797&start=20&tstart=0

Return of the Jedi bootleg video

bigearl wrote: Thanks much!! I haven't had a copy of star wars in years, looking forward to some fresh screenings.

One of the policies of this forum is that for you should own the source from where the preservation came from.  So this V3 came from the 2006 GOUT, so you should own that disc.  Maybe when you said 'in years' that's what you meant.

More general policies here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Fan-edit-preservation-forum-rules-and-FAQ/forum/17/topic/5950/

asterisk8 wrote: Sycophantic ass-kissing goes here.

Save it for the rest of the forum.

TV's Frink wrote: 16:10?  That's like one more than 16:9! 

...

I need a new tv.

We all do.  Wait till they realize they could have gone to Eleven.

OmegaMattman wrote: That may be the greatest thing in the history of the Star Wars franchise!  If this is pulled off right, I'll never watch those ugly theatrical (yuck) cuts again.

Looks like every Star Wars disc I already own is about to become a coaster.  And those LaserDiscs will make AWESOME coasters!

They also make good frisbies.  Or you can self-grove them and convert them into a vinyl record.

All the unnecessary drama and retardednesses aside.  The automation of this process is what's key.

The one frame example above uses 32,000 frames from TPM.  4 of the 24 frames from every second.  Would love to attempt this using all the frames but that's going to dramatically increases the processing time.

The other automation issue is right now it's a one frame creation at a time.  Figuring out either a different Mosaic application (using MacOSaiX currently) or how to control the OS to start up each consequtive frame is something i'd need to learn how to do.

The other unfigured out is the sound.  Have a program called Comparisonics which can take one wav and use it to recreate a second wav file.  But the application is for Mac OS9 and I was never able to figure it out, 10 years ago.  Need to contact the author to see if there is a new version (preferably GUI).

then if that works itself out, where could this thing be displayed...

So might just for shits'n'giggles.  take that one frame.  recreate it in Adobe After Effects then let the video play unaffected before and after for 1 minute, just to see what it looks like.  So you'd see this random image which would then for a fraction of a moment, making something recognizable, then go back to random.

Then there's the creative debate of what's more appropriate using the full OT to recreate the PT or vice-versa or is there some other appropriate more pseudo-4D like?

This is just one of those random projects I have sitting on the HD, which I start and realize i'm way in over my head...

SKot wrote: I've been following this thread with great interest.

cheeky basterd.  Thanks for the memories.  Do you remember much about the IRC trolling?  Was it SW based fans doing the distribution or the hardcore movie traders, guessing the later.  Remember seeing AotC on an irc channel found off of the vcdquality irc, my first dip into that arena.  But wouldn't be surprised if some of the more well known SW websites had copies of TPM for their moderators and crew.  How bad was the podrace splice?

Have begun processing the PT stuff i've collected and what people have donated to this threads goal.  What's interesting about TPM prints is after the reel change the two versions i've seen are marked with pencil squiggles for a frame.  This will be one way to differentiate these sources, beyond the general cropping.

TPMVHSNYC:

TPM 'Z'

For those into converting old VCD's, Isobuster worked for me:

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/88803-How-to-rip-the-video-from-%28S%29VCD-CDs-or-BIN-CUE-images

Was having issues playing the VCD's AVSEQ01.dat format, but isobuster can convert it to a mac playable .mpg.

More random mentions:

http://www.naboonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318

The other day someone showed me a bootlegged copy of TPM.

http://www.projektstarwars.de/forum/episode-i-iii/7113-aotc-bootleg-version-online.html

Die Gerüchte verdichten sich...
Anscheinend gibt es bereits zwei komplette Bootleg Versionen des Filmes im Internet.

http://www.subway.de/magazin/1999/08star.shtml

Viele ungeduldige deutsche Fans haben „Die dunkle Bedrohung“ sowieso schon gesehen: Während einige tatsächlich zu den Premieren nach Amerika und England geflogen sind, haben andere den Film schon in den heimischen vier Wänden genossen – als Raubkopie. Kaum war der Film nämlich in den USA gestartet, da gab es die ersten Bootlegs. Die Qualität der illegalen Kopien rangiert zwischen brutal schlecht (mit wackliger Handicam im rammelvollen Kino abgefilmt) und brilliant (mit Profi-Technologie abgetastet). Neben Straßenhändlern, die die heiße Ware in den China-Towns der Metropolen vertickten, macht besonders das Internet der Rechtsabteilung von Lucasfilm zu schaffen. Gerade das Medium, das maßgeblich an dem Hype und Erfolg des Filmes beteiligt ist, wächst zu einer nicht einkalkulierten Bedrohung: Auf weit über 100 Websites findet sich der komplette Film zum downloaden. Zwar braucht man für die 1,3 Gigabyte schon fast Tage, um sie mit einem herkömmlichen Modem aus dem Netz zu ziehen, doch dank CD-Brennerei verbreiteten sich die Internetfilme wie Buschfeuer. Noch im Mai erreichten die ersten „Phantom Menace“-Kopien Braunschweig. Angeblich wurde der Film an der FH-Wolfenbüttel gezogen und dort auch schon, im hochprivaten Kreise, auf einer Großbildleinwand gezeigt. Die Qualität der sogenannten Z-Version (Ein kleines Z wird im Laufe des Filmes mehrfach in einer Ecke eingeblendet) ist gut: In Vollbildmodus und Stereo hat man ein Video-Erlebnis der ganz besonders prickelnden Sorte. Hatte man die Film-Piraterie anfänglich von offizieller Seite aus bestritten, geht Lucas jetzt in die Offensive: Eine extra angeheuerte Firma soll dem Treiben ein Ende bereiten. Die Arbeit erweist sich jedoch als Sisyphus-Aufgabe. Für jede geschlossene Web-Site tauchen sofort zwei neue im Netz auf.

Natürlich können die Internet-Bootlegs den Erfolg an den Kinokassen kaum schmälern, das weiß auch Lucas, der das Computer Netz sehr schätzt und bisweilen amüsant findet: „Ich habe viel Spaß mit all den Spekulationen der Fan Sites im Internet. Es ist wirklich unglaublich, was da so alles steht. Bevor irgendjemand den Film überhaupt gesehen hatte, konnte man eine gesamte Geschichte lesen. Diese Geschichte entsprach allerdings nur zu 10 Prozent meinem Film – der Rest war reine Spekulation und Erfindung“.

google translation:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.subway.de%2Fmagazin%2F1999%2F08star.shtml&act=url

Many impatient German fans have "The Phantom Menace" anyway already seen: while some actually flew the first night in America and England, others have the movie already in your own four walls, enjoyed - as a pirate copy. No sooner was the film that is launched in the U.S. because there were the first bootlegs. The quality of illegal copies ranges from brutally poor (filmed with wobbly Handicam Rammel in full cinema) and brilliant (with professional technology sampled). In addition to street vendors, the hot commodity in the China-Towns ticked the cities, especially the Internet makes the legal department of Lucasfilm to create. Just the medium that is significantly involved in the hype and success of the film grows to a threat not calculated: At more than 100 sites in the entire film takes to download. Although it takes for the 1.3 gigabyte almost days, to draw them with a conventional modem from the net, but thanks to CD-distillery to spread the Internet movies like wildfire. As late as May reached the first "Phantom Menace" copies of Braunschweig. Supposedly, the film at the FH Wolfenbüttel drawn and there already shown in the highly private parties, on a large screen. The quality of the so-called Z-Version (A little Z in the course of the film appears multiple times in a corner) is good: In full screen mode and you have a stereo video-tingling experience of a particular species. we had initially denied the film piracy, officials from, Lucas is now on the offensive: An extra firm hired to prepare the activities to an end. The work proves to be Sisyphean task. For any closed web site will immediately on two new on the net.

Of course, the Internet bootlegs detract from the success at the box office barely knows and Lucas, who estimates the computer network and at times very amusing finds: "I have fun with all the speculations of fan sites on the Internet. It's really unbelievable what it says can do. Before anyone had ever seen the movie, you could read an entire story. This story, however, corresponded only to 10 percent of my movie - the rest was pure speculation and invention. "

May 22, 1999

http://articles.nydailynews.com/1999-05-22/news/18102210_1_bootleg-video-phantom-menace-star-wars-episode

An angry Gordon Radley, president of Lucasfilm, said, "the public is intolerant" of video bootleggers. "They are disgusted about the quality, and they are offended by the idea that this is happening while the film is in the theater."

He added, "They are not getting the full experience that `Stars Wars' can be."

Who's Adywan, are you sure you don't mean Obi-Wan?