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Read Hard 2.2: The Wraith of Read Harder Part II Strikes Back

I wish they made more Technic sets.  The Droideka was a neet piece of engineering.

Harmy wrote:

none said:

Should I feel wronged and disturbed as I saw 'West Side Story' before reading 'Romeo and Juliet'?

Yes.

Before Shakespeare's 'Romeo and Juliet' (1591-1595) was Arthur Brooke's 'The Tragical History of Romeus and Juliet' (1562) and William Painter's 'Palace of Pleasure' (1582).  Ovid's Metamorphoses (year 8) had a story called 'Phyramus and Thisbe', guess the plot.  How many generations does one have to endure to appreciate the latest and greatest.  I understand this undercuts some of the imaginary value people place onto the quote original star wars unquote.  but geesh if Shakespeare wrote his version less then 30 years after another version, think of all the versions between Ovid and Shakespeares.  Why these things are popular, I can only investigate and speculate.  Society chooses which versions continue on.  Each individual playing their part to retell their favorite tales, carrying them from generation to generation.  Sure the pessimism underlying this topic is sad, but that sadness stems from our limited brains.  Waste your time blaming evolution or the deities of your choice.

On the main topic, i'm still waiting to see a really phucking crappy degenerated washed out old film print version.

none said:

Will Yoda be played by Miss Bliss?  ...and as this is a reboot shouldn't we be using 'The New Class' cast...

Screw The New Class...

College Years or GTFO.

Getting the phuck out then and going over to the 'Head of the Class' with Order66 shake up casting!

Dennis Blunden as Lando Calrissian

Arvid Engen as The Emperor

Kimberly Russell as Luke Skywalker

Simone Foster as Han Solo

Carlie Moore as Yoda

and that's right Theola June 'T.J.' Jones as Mace Windu

and Tannis Vallely as Darth Vader

affectively rebooted.

Harmy wrote: The post shows that some people may actually be exposed to a fanedit of a film before they saw the original and there's definitely something wrong and disturbing about that.

Should I feel wronged and disturbed as I saw 'West Side Story' before reading 'Romeo and Juliet'?  If I was exposed to L.H.O.O.Q. before the Mona Lisa, is this transferred wrongness and disturbitude make me a degenerate?  Time marches on.  More people have been introduced to Star Wars through a home video release then an actual film print.  The majority are phuck ups now.  Noticing how things change because of that is interesting if you've got the time, but applying some moral authority onto this seems like a waste.  I understand you've got added weight because of your contribution, but in time things change.

The Italian SE subs are what 98% correct, just a few need to be removed, then the rest time shifted?  but will keep looking.

Here's a SW Italian .srt found online:

http://pastebin.com/db0x5c9s

Haven't looked at it closely enough to identify if which version it aligns to.

Looking at various .srt files for SW found online and one of the things I noticed is that although it's the same subtitle the timing was different between languages.  Probably because each language was most likely done by someone from that background or more realistically timed to that languages dub.

Another thing with subtitles and the projects around here is they don't always conform to one timing, some are GOUT sync'd others might be LD, DVD, BD sync'd.  I think it should be possible to modify the start-end times in a spreadsheet so that the re-timed start-end can be calculated for a different project.

Will Yoda be played by Miss Bliss?  ...and as this is a reboot shouldn't we be using 'The New Class' cast...

^ There was an issue with the site (or SSW.com) last year when google thought it was, i'm not sure of the right word, ...contaminated, ie a host of malware.  The site most likely got on some list of negative websites and would guess without some work it is hard to get off.

But someone is filtering your surfing, i'd drop them.  If this is a country supplied block, then let us know cus that's shitty.

GL in public videos:

at Disney world 2000: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdOpnvJbjc0

at McDonalds 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3399oR0fIs

corellian77 wrote: Personally, I grew up watching a taped-from-TV copy of Star Wars, and (I'm 99.9% certain of this) there was no burn mark in it.

There are pics from multiple versions at the link below.  If you have access to a source not listed and can provide pics, would be much appreciated.

http://fd.noneinc.com/Glitch/starwars-tantiveorangeerrors/starwars-tantiveorangeerrors.html#

I stand by the decision to include the Humdinger Glitch in the Despecialized Edtion of The Star Wars.  It makes a crucial link between the manipulation of our past and future memories and is there fore and forever a betterment of The Star Warses's.

http://www.insidethemagic.net/2012/02/star-tours-origins-recreates-classic-disneyland-star-wars-ride-in-3-d-cg-ultimate-tribute/

Produced independently from Disney and Lucasfilm, Star Tours Origins not only offers “Star Wars” fans a chance to once again embark on a hair-raising adventure past the Endor moon, but also to do it for the first time ever in 3-D. Much like Disney’s new Star Tours: The Adventures Continue, Noacco has used YouTube 3D to present his Star Tours Origins tribute with more depth than the original attraction.

You_Too wrote:

Joke of the day. :D

Thread for discussion of these items, which I would not consider a burn mark:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Tantives-Orange-Errors-Thread/topic/13355/

*EDIT*

delusions_of_grandeur wrote:

Troyig88 said:

that blue halo is originally there.

 

Yes.  I just looked at the GOUT and there's definitely a blue halo around the engines of the Falcon in that shot.  Maybe not as pronounced as in the work print. A result of some changes Harmy made to boost the brightness of the star field?  In any event, I think the shot looks fine and the work print looks divine.

Here's mthr's SW Theatrical Performance preservation for reference:

but that images has some post processing to it.  here's the source VHS image:

Nothing super conclusive (to me) but tossed on the discussion pile.

You need to chose a film you are knowledgeable about or one you do want to get to know on a personal level.  Jambe's filmumenaries are not the product of a six month or one year investigation, they require a lot of detective work. 

^ What is the change description?  One sign of recompsitioning is the white streak just below the bottom most edge of Vader's TIE.  In the GOUT there's a space between the black wing and the white streak.  (but it could be they've painted in a bit more of the wings, as the left bottom Vader TIE wing edge is pointer in GOUT)  In 2004 and DeEd the white streak seems to go under the TIE wing.  But most of the edge relationships seem the same, even the star locations.  Otherwise this seems to be part of the color debate.  Will look at it in motion.

ASIDE: when did imageshack require login to upload images?

SilverWook wrote: And we're supposed to believe that Lucas actually posted to Usenet?

Of course, this is the internet and everything on the internet is write.

^ Problem is to be considered the definitive preservation project you need access to material no one has, but those who have it have gone on record that they won't share it, yet now they have, and although we have no way of verifying this, it is supposedly the way to get closer to the 'original'.  It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't.  If you do work with the material but not tell anyone your source, who's going to believe your original is more original.  If you do use the material and alert everyone to it's existence then you need to make a stand, which you can't prove to anyone.  (in the short term, maybe)  I agree it makes you laugh, but not in a ha ha ha way but in a we are wasting many many many many hours of our lives.  That's phunnie in my book, it makes you laugh but it's mostly tragicly sad.  We're at the hands of a system which is keeping us stupid.

Alexrd wrote: That doesn't necessarily contradict what he said. Either with puppet or digital Yoda, they were going to need Frank Oz.

Yes history shows they have kept his voice.  Would you now consider his TPM puppetry work as pre-viz?

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/02/03/george-lucas-star-wars-digital-yoda-phantom-menace/

GL speaking: "one of the things we did improve was a digital Yoda into the first film, The Phantom Menace.  We just couldn't make it work.  So we came close, we got Jar-Jar, Sebulba, Watto and a lot of other characters.  But we couldn't get Yoda.  Which was much harder to do.  And so when we did get that accomplished, (as they show the only TPM digital Yoda shot from the theatrical version) which was before the second film.  We went back and put the digital Yoda back into the film, as it was originally intended to be.

The Making of Star Wars Episode 1 The Phantom Menace

pg. 96

"Neither Lucas nor McCallum had ever considered attempting to reintroduce the character of Yoda without Frank Oz as the man behind the puppet.  "I'd been speaking to Frank about it off and on for two or three years before we did the movie," McCallum said.  "There was just no way we were going to do it without him.  We fit out schedule around his.  He'd just finished a movie, and he fit us in for two days between t he completion of his movie and the start of his press conferences.  Two days and  he was gone.  But it was essential to have him there.  Yoda would not be Yoda without Frank Oz."

http://www.georgelucasusenetarchive.com/Default.asp?article=1999-10-18&title=George-urges-fans-to-destroy-his-critics

I call upon you, the dense core, to shout down all those who criticize me. Only a bloodbath of revenge will now satisfy me. Only a holocaust of bloodletting will restore me to calm. Only the maddening butchery as grotesque and insane as a thousand wars will sate my bloodlust. Only a horrifying, senseless monsoon of blood and an unholy avalanche of carnage can satisfy my perverted desires. (Please skin Robert Ebert alive first.)

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/boiling-point-why-does-george-lucas-hate-star-wars-fans-and-history.php

You know what the worst part of all this is? In a few years, some kids are going to watch the Star Wars movies for the first time, having heard about how instrumental they were, how popular they were, and how amazing they were and this kid is going to watch these Blu-rays and say to himself “What’s the big fucking deal?” at best and “Wow these kind of suck” at worst. The films have been chopped and glued and amended like some piece of shit Toyota that refuses to die, rather than being tended to like a classic Corvette. The movies we loved are dying, bit by bit, sound by sound, scene by scene.

Fuck you, George Lucas. I loved you once. Now all you do is push me past my boiling point.

http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=965

What the hateboys want to DO is ruin other fans’ good time.

http://io9.com/5881828/phantom-menace-3d-trailer-robs-star-wars-of-its-last-shred-of-dignity

Not surprisingly, George Lucas is courting the only audience he can: little kids. In this ridiculous trailer, a narrator desperately tries to Honey Badger his way into making this movie kid-friendly. Can't wait until the kids get a load of Qui-Gon Jinn's hilarious Trade Federation banter! Watch this trailer, and weep for future generations.

http://jam.canoe.ca/Movies/Artists/L/Lucas_George/1999/05/10/759965.html

"It's only a movie. Get a life."

These were the first words out of Lucas' mouth when he took the podium at his press conference at the Regency Hotel yesterday.

http://www.booknoise.net/johnseabrook/stories/culture/force/index.html

Here, at this first screening of "Star Wars," a group of writers, directors, and executives, all with ambitions to make more or less artistically accomplished Hollywood films, were confronting the template of the future--the film that would in one way or another determine everyone's career. Not surprisingly, almost every one of them hated it. Polite applause in the screening room, no cheers--a "real sweaty-palm time," Jay Cocks, who was also there, said. It's possible that, just this once, before the tsunami of marketing and megatude closed over "Star Wars" forever, these people were seeing the movie for what it really was--a film with comic-book characters, an unbelievable story, no political or social commentary, lousy acting, preposterous dialogue, and a ridiculously simplistic morality. In other words, a bad movie.

Released: http://filmumentaries.com/ &  http://vimeo.com/36011979

georgec wrote: Quit trying to start arguments (when you have no argument) and inform yourself.

If you want your point to be made, take the time and do the work.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/7383411/ns/today-entertainment/t/sorry-george-critics-used-love-star-wars/#.TyxfSiNQGGM

In a “60 Minutes” interview last month, George Lucas told Lesley Stahl that he didn’t care what critics had to say about “Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith,” the sixth and final installment in the series.

“I’m not worried at all,” he told her. “They haven’t liked any of them really, and they especially haven’t like the last two, so hey, it can’t get any worse.”

^ It's worked for kenkraly!  [...but ahhhhh not for you.]