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I checked my e-mail exchange with dLd and the DVD (in 2006) he wanted only 7 bucks AND the t-shirt was thrown in. Screw the economy, it's dLd's 10th anniversary, send'um 10 bucks.

The fan project for this is the split between die LUCAS die & Fanboys. Someone will hopefully get the two writers together to talk about their projects' inspirations. There's a urban myth of someone breaking into Skywalker Ranch in the 80s which is partly where the writer of Fanboys' inspiration came from, could be the same for dLd.
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For me what makes this movie great is that it's one of the first StarWars-ploitation movies. There had been plenty of fan films and parodies but this was the first film i'm aware of that really had an alternative goal but wrapped it up into the Star Wars phenomenom to gain eyeballs.

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http://ilrestodelcarlino.ilsole24ore.com/cesena/2009/04/30/170913-raduno_patiti_guerre_stellari.shtml

Babelfish Translation

Since it's sorta a dead thread, expanded the topic to include the recent rash of comedies which are about SW fans.

Added:
The Phandom Menace - Documentary about the Australian fans in the run upto The Phantom Menace.
Thee Backslacpkping With Media - Documediamentary focusing on the media perceptions of Star Wars in the two months before to two months after the release of Revenge of the Sith.
die LUCAS die - Dark comedy/experimental film about a group of friends who plan to visit Skywalker Ranch.
Fanboys - Comedy about a group of friends who plan to visit Skywalker Ranch.
5-25-77 - Comedy about young filmmaker who gets blown away by the original release of Star Wars.

Fanboys (which will be on DVD soon but is making it's way in theaters, every week it's in a new city) is a traditional comedy which used Star Wars as it's base. How much the producer/writer of the movie was a 'fan' of Star Wars is debateable. It seems more like a typical comedy to me then a fan made movie. it's fairly generic and spends alot of time on traditional cliche 'humour' things like Star Wars vs Star Trek.

but i'm biased because i apprecate the other 'were going to break into Skywalker Ranch movie' "die LUCAS die" which was conceived at the same time as 'Fanboys' but was not studio produced. It's more experimental and really uses/abuses the Star Wars as a vehicle to gain viewership. It's a difficult movie. The fact that these two movies exist is more interesting then either one.

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Moth3r wrote: "The flash media player doesn't work for me. However, I did find it was possible to extract the URL and download the MP4 file directly."

Thanks for checking it out, there's just so far I can beta. Added direct download links to the Mp4s, since the player might not work for a lot more people. Online video is fraught with complications. I ended up using the Mp4s and archive.org's embedded media player figuring it would be fairly universal, but it would seem that's not the case. I couldn't get it to work in windows explorererer but got cross platform performance from firefox when i was testing.

the nice thing about the player, although it doesn't work on my site but from files housed on archive.org, the player can automatically start playing the next chapter. So in theory, if OT.com members wanted their edits online, they could post the segments they've changed and with enough of those online, the whole movie could be recreated and 'edits' of edits could be set up to automatically stream.

Video compression was one of the major headaches making this thing. pulling sources from everywhere it seemed like every location had a different format which required a different program or codec to repurpose the video into the miniDV format i thought was fairly universal. major phucking pain in the ass.

Moth3r wrote: "And yes, I think this introduction does just make things more confusing..."

the intro does accomplish three things, first that the main feature is a shit load of tv clips, so people would understand that. (there goes half the audience) Second, a chance to read through the chapter titles to see if any of those ideas might be of interest to them (and another 40% dissipates) and third, people's reactions. (so after another set of fleeing clicks) The remaining .001% should get a kick out of it... if they can figure out how to download and play the clips!

Moth3r wrote: "It didn't help that the voice over is pretty much unintelligible."

%20 is a text-2-speech entity, for better or worse. So added to the page is the transcript. Part of the goal of a project like this is to get someone to realize that this kind of work could be created by a computer, so a computer voice as the pseudo-author leads a tad more credence to the whole thing. Now yes maybe i've used the wrong text-2-speech since there are many words which get mangled. I'll blame that on resources.

As the Sith anniversary (the all important 4th) approaches, we'll see where this things goes in the public's attention span. I'll be contacting random places as i think of who might be receptive. Not sure if i should go directly to blogs or post in message forums? but it's a time sink so that's a draw back, hopefully the splitting into chapters will help people become more familiar with the ideas?

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There are certain posts which somehow gather people to be active; to read AND post.  Figuring out how they accomplish that is an interesting thing to learn.  This is more of a behind the scenes type of page, to help figure that out, a simple page which identifies the top/bottom 25 posts with best/worst 'Replys' to 'Views ratio.

It seems most topics gather 2 replys per 100 views.  Curious which topic does it better.

Could see a list for the best/worst of all time and another list which only pulls from the last 5 or so pages.

Also would be curious to know which pages have the highest number of different posters.

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'Thee Backslacpkping With Media' is now available for viewing from the FAQ:

http://www.noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM_FAQ.html#DVDChapter

MattMahdi wrote:

If people know what the project IS then they may decide to download it.

To rectify this made a one minute introduction video which might help clarify or just makes things more confusing...

Thanks for those who have commented on this project some of your words are in this clip:

http://www.noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM-Video-ArchiveOrg/Thee_Backslacpkping_With_Media-Chap_00-Play.html

SKot wrote:

The one thing I wish could be changed was the inconsistent audio levels

Yeah, this is one of the things I neglected early on and just never got back to.  I fixed a some audio which didn't sync up and a few who were extremely soft, but a global effort to equalize wasn't done.  I'm using headphones 99% of the time and with my tinitus, they just didn't seem dramatic to me.  Will do a visual EQ check on future projects.

SKot wrote:

Think about having a day of intense web surfing where one link leads to another, and another, and another, and you keep learning and learning more which drives you onward to follow more links for more information to learn even further.

I completely understand the idea of tuning into a service like this and forgetting everything else, but the other side would benefit as well.  A service which could complete requests like this could also condense out the essential info the individual is search for.  For instance let's so you were traveling to a location and wanted to know how to say a certain street name or other geographical features.  A service like this could filter out just the video parts which have this street name mentioned and were recorded in the desired location, so you'd be watching a short piece of several people from the desired location saying the term which your looking to pronounce correctly.

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And I'd love to read material that expands on the information from "about this disc" on the main menu.  What's the history, how the project morphed from one thing to another, whether you think it's complete or merely released into the wild.

The DVD is as '"complete"' as it will ever be.  Conceptually there are ideas which didn't get flushed out to make sense.  For instance the relationship between the Chinese influences and overall production / presentation.  I wanted to have more of a storyline about the DVDs production/release.  The idea was going to be that the main DVD was created then 'captured' and bootlegged by either Chinese or the Galactic Trade Federation (or both) [who would add their subs to the project] and subsequently re-release.  You can see these influences in the menus, the inner frame is the GTF or something and the Chinese influence added the additional information.  Llike how the 'backstroke of the west' came into existance.

Another of the in-jokes which didn't happen was in the Chinese Subs, everytime 'Blynth' was said I wanted to have a HUGE 10 line Chinese subtitle which would be some joke, but I never got around to it.  Nothing seemed right.

The main video presentation had one main development point.  During the recording process, it became more and more frustrating listening to the gaffs/mistakes which we're being made.  So the original piece was just going to be a compilation of those clips which had errors.  But then as I visited websites who offered their own view of the phenomenon it seemed more interesting to cross compare.  Then as the amount of material increased, certain trends started to re-appear.  And by the time the movie came out i'd had many of these chapters already defined.  Then the early release happened, and the news media attention shifted.  And I found myself contemplating a project which relies on copyright infringement to accomplish it's goals.  The clip of the News commentator complaining about the annoying numbers at the top of the screen, while her channel logo is equally annoying at the bottom just seemed to ironic.  Then a few months later I found several other video hosting sites and video editing softwares which greatly expanded the scope of the project.  Most of this material turned out to be from independent individuals who became their own form of news commentators or interviewees, and their contribution added another layer to this presentation.

Another aspect lost was the additional material related to bloggers rights and circumvention of governmental/corporate censoring programs.  I wanted to include several documents which help individuals get past great firewalls or understand copyrights in relation to online content.  I figured having them inside an RAR'd DVD uploaded to Usenet would be a great way to get this information into other countries.  See:

http://www.ultrareach.com/

http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=542

http://www.eff.org/wp/unintended-consequences-ten-years-under-dmca

Unfortunately, by the time i'd finished the DVD, times had changed and the info I had seemed out of date.  And I was having problems (besides being unemployed) squeezing everything onto the DVD...

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[edit - Info no longer relevant]

The NFO problems this project has been having is because the original version contained Chinese Characters, which makes it a different type of .txt format, not the 'Western' type which is typical for english texts.

The torrent succeeded then failed. So other options are being looked into. The options being considered are:

1. torrent : trackerless - (preferred method but has it's drawbacks, would need more people to test it out, to work through kinks)
2. torrent : trackered - What sites (public preferred) would you recommend?
3. linktalk : Can someone explain how this works? Is this related to rapidshare?
4. direct from the website. RARs
The problem with this idea is that the disc is 8 gigs. I've contemplated putting it up in RAR segments. Maybe offering a few a day or week. So over a month? the whole disc could be downloaded. Would anyone consider downloading in this method?

5. Is there something new out there?

Once the next distribution method is figured out, i'm going to make a different webpage. Since everyone agrees that the FAQ is to convoluted. For those who've seen it, how would you explain the DVD? What should be on the website, which would entice others to check it out? what aspect/segue/chapter/clip really surprised you?

Also where did the disc not meet your expectations. for instance it was mentioned elsewhere about the backstroke/elite/133t trailer connection, did the DVD provide clarification? If not these type of issues I would like to address in the revised website.

thanks
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back-slacp-k-ping : [bak-slak-(u)p-kah-pinggG ; verb

I'm not sure. that's a guess, I haven't really had to say it in public yet... if i had too, i would limit the pronunciation of 'U' in up and over stress the PinGGGGG to distract from the garbled middle. The text-2-speech program used for the audio commentary has a version at the beginning I believe.

Because this was a response to teh backstroke of the west, I wanted a back*something* word in the title. This piece began in a shorter form focusing on the mistakes/gaffs by the talking heads. so backslapping seemed appropriate, since the final piece was going to be drawing attention to their reporting errors, they slacked on the facts. The word combination got the final approval when the translator into chinese returned 8 characters.

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If you've really burned the disc (why not preview on the computer) please consider giving the disc to someone who might have an appreciation for it. Or if your feeling adventurous, droplift the disc in your local video store (droplifting is the opposite of shoplifting, you leave a copy in a store, they can do what they want with it.), or put it in a Netflix envelope and mail it, send it to someone you hate. I'd rather not know there are going to be wasted DVDs entering the junkyards. digital distribution should cut down on waste.

thanks for trying. sorry for occupying your time. (If your still around which 3 minutes was it?)

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Everything used in this project is copyrighted to someone. (but i've bequeathed the entire project to the Public Domain) The current copyright system (of the US) does not require anyone to document their copyright, it is granted when any creation is made. (and in some people's point of view, current copyright is endless, since every 20 years Congress extends it) This is one of the issues this DVD brings up, is there room in the current state of things to allow a creation (one which willfully infringes) of this sort to exist. Some will say it's ok, some will say you need permission before reusing and others will balk entirely.

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To help everyone understand, instead of dumping more amazingly travesty shit cryptic explanations, i'm attempting to get a trrnt going. You'll have to be patient, having never done this before, I doubt this will work the first time.

Attempt #1 is edit no longer active : trrnt didn't behave as planned, with one tester was able to get transfer of 70% before persistant fail... if you have suggestions on trrnt transfer methods or ideas, please pass them along. end edit

*Note* Unfortunately to remain remote the torrent is trackerless using the Vuze/Azureus client. (sorry uTorrent folks) This has been done because of the machine i'm on. it's an old mac and won't upgrade to java 1.6 to get uTorrent Mainline DHT to function. so to get a cross platform version, azureus was the answer I could find. Any suggestion on trackerless trrnts please PM.

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Viewing Suggestions:

I suggest watching a chapter which you might find interesting and go from there. Watching the whole thing in one sitting is not recommended or probably healthy. (unless you want a nap, the first person I showed this to slept through an hour, and it was half as long at that time...)

The Chinese subs should have been defaulted on first view. but it seems that if you inform a subtitle track to be En(glish) most DVD players will switch to EN instead of the main subtitle track...

As for the stormtroopers chapter, the idea was to see what Five Hundred and One Stormtroopers would look like. As Sumguy21 pointed out the answers in the audio commentary.

The audio commentary has it's own focus, but in general it's loose and verges off topic to what's on screen. Over 90% of the audio commentary is derived from newspaper articles, reviews and online forum posts, so it has it's own (sometimes vulgar) voice. and it deals more indepth with some of the topics which the visual media chose not to. again not recommended to listen to the whole thing.

The reason for "documediamentary" is that it didn't seem right to call it an outright documentary. Plus term bending/blending is a hobby. "Thee Backslacpkping With Media" de/re/in/forms.

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/star-wars-ITV-broadcast-version/topic/2078/

(found by googling : "site:originaltrilogy.com itv" )

Here's a blog post for subtitle trivia:

"About Tocneppil, ducks & dogs: nuances between the novel and the movie: 'Star Wars A New Hope'"

http://blogs.starwars.com/teekay-421/65

The first transport is away. : usenet

The second transport is away. : mailing

Will post alternatives as they become available.
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http://www.noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM_FAQ.html

I'm guessing that Fanboys got put out around the anniversary of the PT and new clone wars show, which is the focus of the film, then maybe '77 will get released around the time the new tv series gets put out and whatever anniversary that maybe.... if it wants support from TPTB.

But '77 has has premiered (and won an award):
http://blog.spout.com/2008/10/20/77-formerly-5-25-77-review-hamptons-film-festival-2008/
director responds in the comments, hopefully we'll see this soon.

Here's a discography:

http://www.geocities.com/mecofan/discography/disco.html
scroll down to the 1983 "Ewok Celebration" LP.

Quote:

"However, the Ewok Celebration theme is nicely arranged and includes a great rap by C-3PO (performed by Duke Bootee) telling their adventures to the ewoks in their own language and including sound effects"

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'yabbu dabbu Darth Vader'

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Info-Making-of-the-Computer-Graphics-for-Star-Wars-Larry-Cuba-YouTube/id/9274