Anchorhead wrote:
which I would expect from a car show.
What percentage of late 1960's or late 70's car show ethusiasts were also going to Studio 54 or hanging out in the fashionista scene of London/Paris/NewYork?
Anchorhead wrote:
There is no denying he's copied other people's work.
From early on, Star Wars was framed as the retelling/reinterpreting of culture. Some of the Official early books each introduced how aspects were lifted from old sources for instance the cantina aliens were sprung from the movie 'Freaks', the no legged guy being a partial inspiration for R2.
What was probably an awakening for culture and society was here was someone freely opening up about their inspirations instead of keeping it hidden behind the mystical 'artist' facade. And early on they continued that spirit through the making of special effect shows.
I wonder though how much of this was this done to counter lawsuits like the above mentioned 'Silent Running'. Did they scramble to find additional references and get them into print to counter other people who drew corrolations between their work and this new movie. Probably not much, but it creeps back into mind every time there is one of those droid-motorola suits.
I disagree with the premise that LFL had a problem with the 16 or so terabytes required to save one scan of the movie in 1997. Raiding harddrives has always been key to large storage facilities. They had experience from the Special Editions two years prior, and they planned out these technological hurdles a year or so before even beginning work.
The idea of cost cutting could be the reasoning which would support why when they finished a shot they printed to film and made room for more production files. But since there's always new things emerging from the LFL archives, I don't think they did this. Maybe on Jurassic Park in 92-93, but not by this point.
Here's an article about TPM: (1999.06.01)
"Using the Force: How ILM's Army Conquered The Phantom Menace"
http://digitalcontentproducer.com/mil/features/video_using_force_ilms/
picked out a bunch of quotes here and there, good article worth reading the whole thing. This quotes about the editing side of the process:
All of the live-action film was processed and immediately telecined to be dealt with on the Avid."
ILM's FX Editorial department then functioned as the "funnel" for the OMF files that flowed from Lucas' editors. ILM actually used three Avid systems-one for each of the film's visual effects supervisors. On Tanaka's computer screen sat icons showing faces of Lucas and ILM's supervisors. "We used their heads to represent the hard drives where we stored their shots," says Tanaka with a smile. "By SW2, maybe their heads will be animated!"
Here's a clue about them archiving the original scan which for me shows they were saving every step along the way:
Even so, they calculated that they would fall behind. The process of preparing frames involved dirt removal and color timing, as well as an archival process. *OMIT* In scanning it, we can't forget what it was originally.
Here's a quote which alludes to the Special Editions frame scanning:
When the system was done, we could scan closer to 3.5-times faster than when we started Star Wars." In the end, the scan tally was a half-million frames.
No reference to what's being upgraded, but if individual machines were getting quadrupled, the server farm was probably huge.
Dailies on the Desktop What is truly striking about SW1 is how much decision-making happened right at artists' desks. The entire facility got a processor upgrade, and disk space and memory were tripled and quadrupled
Here's a reference to data transfer and it mentions terabytes:
The Network Glue Twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, ILM's Gigabit Ethernet provided the connections that held SW1 together through all phases of production. "We've averaged about five terabytes of data a day," says network operations director Raleigh Mann, who joined ILM from AOL. "At peak, we actually pushed 16 terabytes through in a day. Though our network is small in terms of the numbers of computers on it, we maintained a percentage of traffic close to the size of AOL's."
LFL has been at the peek of data production since the early 80s, they most likely worked with HD manufacturers always having the most up to date storage facilities. So I lean more towards they've got it backed up. What they did once production was done to wrap things up, don't have a clue.
Which "American Icon - The Hot Rod" episode is this from?
http://dhd.discovery.com/tv-schedules/series.html?paid=66.12861.130015.39813.5
Another thing to compare are the backgrounds from these pics with the others from 1967 which are online. One of the false-positives with clothes is sometimes the people wearing them are 'out of fashion' by 5-10 years. which I would expect from a car show.
Here's some pics from SEMA shows, they look more bare bones.
http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature/2008show/08semanewprod/
For those into old .txt archives, The Archive Team saved much of starwars.yahoo.com before it went down:
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Starwars.yahoo.com
Thanks for the suggestion. With all the millions of scans out there, and the depth of some of the archival sites, i'm surprised more .txt archives are not out there to search through.
Would like to start some kind of system, post a scan with raw OCR see if a community would do the proofing, then have all the .txts in a bundle so people could take and host, and it would make article quoting much easier for the community, since at this point much of what's talked about is recycled....
Don't know if it's the same source, but some comparisons at:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-coming-to-Blu-Ray/post/456543/#TopicPost456543
see you auntie wrote:
All Luke wants to be is a Jedi like his father before him and all Jedi are celibate monks.
but the father jedi was a senate lover.
Just wait until the DVD version comes out! I hear Luke shoots first!
Wait I thought I read that the the table was going to transform into Jar-Jar and that caused Greedo's aim to go off. Then Han would turn on his anti-gravity boots to fly out the cantina and the coin is to be removed so that he can use EasyPass. Maybe i read that wrong.
Since there's word of tons of spaceship shots in 'It's A Trap', the Fractalsponge guy who didn't get credit last time should have gotten credit this time, but word so far is yet again, no credit to the model makers...
TV's Frink wrote:
The thread title had my hopes up for a Luke vs. Han fistfight.
How about a googlefight?
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%22Luke+Skywalker%22&word2=%22Han+Solo%22
In the recent "Creating the Impossible" doc (05:00) there's the ESB shot as the Falcon dives away from the crossing Star Destroyers, the far one is purple. But if this was a production shot, why are the lasers painted on? Maybe this is just a bad encode, anyone else see this? Then a few minutes later there's an orange SD.
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The-People-vs.-George-Lucas/70134627
(not sure if this means it's available or do they act like imdb and just list everything?)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088258/
The 'star' counter goes up to, well you know but the actual stars don't... boo.
via:kottke.org
Anyone familiar with OCR Scanning. Looking for suggestions on programs which would work better with different types of scans. For instance books are relatively easy since they don't have columns, but magazine and comic would require a different process. Also foreign languages is probably another issue to consider.
Would like to have .txt files of scanned articles which have been accumulated, so that they are searchable. Then for the foreign stuff online translation sites could help out.
If the OCR program played well with .cbr and .pdf formats that would be teh best.
and ideas, programs or suggestions of other issues to consider is welcomed.
none
via: http://starwarsaficionado.blogspot.com/
Gary Kurtz (Producer - STAR WARS and THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK): Gary revealed that he has not been involved at all on anything to do with the upcoming STAR WARS films on Blu-ray, though on the extras front, as far as he is aware, apart from the deleted scenes, the additional material will pretty much be all the documentaries and supplemental features found on previous releases in other formats.
*grain of salt* someone not involved saying what's to be included might not add up to much. But he's possibly been able to talk to those who are putting it together. wait and see we will.
This story, of being up for the Leia part, was in the 2010 "Star Wars Insider Interviews" issue...
Woah moment: A significant percentage of the images.google results for moronathon point back to originaltrilogy.com.
Wheeee... Wheeeee... Moranothan! Wheeee....))))
zombie84 wrote:
Wow, this was cool since I was under the impression that she had dropped off the radar and was basically MIA (i.e., doesn't want to be pestered by Star Wars nerds). I had heard that she was in softcore pornography, which only added to her mystery ("softcore porn" I think carries more of a stigma today though, whereas acting in a soft porn/erotic films in the early and mid 70s was more respectable since there was a lot of mainstream crossover). It is very interesting to hear about the Fisher casting bluff, since I don't believe that anecdote has been told anywhere else. Her description of Lucas and Kurtz seems pretty consistent with other people, even if she says both Lucas Kurtz were Quakers (Lucas isn't but Kurtz is; the fact that she assumed they both were is a telling indication of why the two worked together frequently, as conservatism such as that is rare in Hollywood).
If you read her Wiki page she did drop off the radar but most likely because of health concerns, breast cancer, and all the press from dating a UK Royal probably made the public light annoying. Going by the age of her and Hagon (hairline/color), this interview might be closer to 10+ years. Could be a 30 years of SW, i've asked the site to post more info, when they update.
The movie which gave her the tag is Emily, haven't seen it but it sounds like top nudity which was in plenty of other 70s movies. But since it was a scene which had two women the lesbian stigma probably convinced everyone to call it pornography. 'Emily' was released in 1976, either the scene is not that big a deal, or Kurtz and Lucas were in different mind frame back then. With all the attention they pay to adult SW material nowadays it's interesting that the movie could have had a different star. but conservatism with drug and alcohol doesn't necessarily convert to conservatism with nudity.
This whole issue is one of those things which doesn't make sense. Here's a segment of the 'Empire Strikes Back - Official Collectors Edition' magazine:
pg.40 'The Script'
Lucas recalls: "The story treatment was very, very detailed. It was the whole thng laid out in scene-by-scene order - what happened and practically everything that was said."
This first draft was produced by veteran scripter Leigh Brackett, who had written the screenplays for Rio Bravo and The Big Sleep. The Empire Strikes Back was her last assignment before her untimely death. This left Lucas in a difficult possition:
"After Leigh died, I did a draft in between before we were able to hire another writer. I was faced with going into production and you just can't come up with somebody just on the spur of the moment who would be right."
Later in the writing process Larry Kasdan wroked with Lucas on producing the final screenplay.
George Lucas admits to not liking writing at all. He says: "I'm not a natural writer. I have a routine. I get up and start writing at eight o'clock in the morning and I quit at five. I sit at my desk relentlessly and that's the only way I can do it because I hate it.
So writing doesn't come easy, yet there was this magical story treatment which surfaced out of somewhere ("practically everything that was said") which Brackett used to create the script.
Yet years later 'Making of ESB'
pg.43
Lucas very quickly hammered out a second draft, finishing on April 1, 1978. *omit* "I found it much easier than I'd expected, almost enjoyable,"
back to this ESB mag, Lucas continues:
"The whole thing is like a big doodle. It started over here and then it just goes off to here, then I go off over there, just wherever it leads me - which is the fun part."
Also amusingly: Cinefantastique Fall 1979
Producer George Lucas' original story was adapted into an intricate screenplay by science fantasy writer Leigh Brackett *omit*, but she died in 1978, after completing only a frist draft. Fox announced that "a young, new talent," Larry Kasdan, "revised and completed the screenplay." We can only hope that not too much "revising" was done to the script of a highly respected screenwriter such as Leigh Brackett.
Sluggo wrote:
Kathleen? Weird. Is Koo a nickname then?
Is Cammie mentioned anywhere earlier than the shooting script?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koo_Stark
Kathleen Dee-Anne Stark (also possibly at times using her mother's name 'Norris') Seen that on a few webpages.
Going off the scripts on the StarWarz Starkiller site, just the 4th draft/shooting script. (Camie in that script and on the recently released figured, my mistake)
Converting Carrie to Camie (almost a clerical error), but also a weirdly elegant way to disturb your main actress. Something passive-aggresive about it.
The site below recently posted part of an interview with Kathleen (Koo) Stark. Seems to be from a convention (anyone guess a date? 5+ years ago?), also possibly to appear in future installments is Garrick Hagon, so there might be some future cut scene discussion to emerge.
http://cosmiclostandfound.com/Archive.html
Quote: "Recently discovered interview conducted by Richard Holliss"
*Spoiler* but generally gossipy
She weaves an interesting tale of how Carrie was in negotiations so as a backup they brought Stark in, then created the Cammie role when Carrie signed. Looking at the two names now Carrie/Cammie maybe that's just a weird coincidence, but she does have the same general appearance. Probably a ploy to get Carrie to sign, bring in someone else so that the other side realizes the urgency of the negotiations. She seems to be playing up the 'conservative' aspects of Kurtz/GL and upper management team, in the second party story.
Any chance of there being 'All' the language versions created? or do companies still put out blu-rays for each of the zones?