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#458849
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STAR WARS - THE ULTIMATE EXPERIENCE - Is Forever ...One Last Time (Television Trilogy Preservation Set + SW Commercial Breaks) -The Ordeal Is Real- & available (Released)
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Knightmessenger wrote:

About the splitscreen trailer, I saw an excerpt of it on some website in a really low quality, low color space. This was the days before youtube and internet video.

Haven't come across that one.  I don't remember seeing it to be honest.  Am looking, they were splitscreen top and bottom?

tag has been accepted, it's not getting used.

Here are two of the old school SW video sites:

http://multimedia.theforce.net/

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/index.php?categoryid=27

This looks promising:

http://www.blueharvest.net/video/original.shtml

Link doesn't work but they describe something similar: compare.mov

Comparison made between the original movie quality and the THX enhanced version.

Could it have been a CNN news report, they link to CNN.com.

 

The days before youtube were not that bad.  (see tBSWM, 700 sources before youtube) best thing everything was decentralized.  Youtube's made the trade off that more people could upload, but it's also taken away the public's need to understand the basics of video.  So now that the <video> tag has been accepted, people aren't able to build off it and see how video could be reused.  Internet video has become the same as television, a one way street.  Could have been so much more.  Just going to take another 5-10 years...

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#458422
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Theater Performance Preservations
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http://www.starwarsmovieposter.com/popups/ukrotjreward.htm

Return of the Jedi British (Poster)
Date / Version: (1983) Reward
Artwork by: 20th Century Fox - Layout
Variations: (Poster is found rolled / folded)
Bootlegs: None Known
Other Info: Unique printing of a "Wanted" poster from 20th Century Fox and Classic Cinemas asking for information about the theft of the film from a cinema in Hastings - (UK), on Saturday June 18th. A £5000 reward was offered and the poster warned that no legitimate copies of this movie were available for individuals. Note* - Many bootlegged copies from this theft were made and sold on VHS tape.

 

 

*EDIT*

Babyhum's BH018 - Contains news reports about this Hasting film heist from 1983!

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#458318
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Here is my reason for hating the prequels. some have said i hate for no reason here is why I hate it
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Bingowings wrote:

Always two there are, a left one and a right one...

...and the bothsies!  (dark side only)

 

Can we get a proof read on Post 42.  Proof Read : Post Forty Twoooo.

 

kenkraly2007 wrote:

this peition has'nt work and will never will it's a dead issue that ship has saled.

Wow that's awesome, how much did Jay get for it?  Hope he wasn't paid in Republic Credits...

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#458317
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Save Star Wars Dot Com
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This was sought through entering the Berne convention for Moral Rights,

Capitalize "Convention".  maybe modify to 'Berne Convention on the issue of Moral Rights'.  The full title for Berne is "Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works."  people might think it's "Berne Convention for Moral Rights" from the way it's currently written.

Are the first two pictures just 'of that time' or are there specific people whom we're looking at?

In August of this year, I wrote a lengthy article on the dearth of American film preservation law--I should have just let George Lucas write it!

The opening clause might get confusing as years pass.  Drop it or get 2010 in there somehow. 

from the new musical sequence in Jedi, youthful Hayden Christensen replacing old Sebastian Shaw in the same film, Greedo shooting first out of political correctness, and the totally different colour scheme implemented in 2004.

replace 'and' w/ 'to' so it's from the new music to the totally different colour.

Someone else was in Washington too.

Maybe add a return before this line to separate it from the paragraph above, give it some stand out drama.

since director Richard Marquand died in 1987, and need to have Kershner and Kasdan be the decision-makers for Empire.

 

and that out of respect for the deceased Richard Marquand Jedi be left as it was.

Can we get some love for Brackett?

document bearing the title The Berne

either a colon or dash after title. or put it in italics or quotes. quotes will give everyone a clue when the title ends.

 

anyone else at the end say to themselves "and to all a goodnight"

Great recap, paints a nice picture.

but people who side with the idea that artists should have free reign might come down hard on this.

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#458276
Topic
Here is my reason for hating the prequels. some have said i hate for no reason here is why I hate it
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Kenkraly2007 wrote:

What I can't understand is why all the Lucas bashing?

Ken, Kenny, Kenneth, Kenneth Kraly, Kenneth Kraly Jr.

 

http://forums.jedi.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=332444

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 08:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the special edtions of the original trilogy I think it sound better than the original trilogy but of course you can tell because it was on vhs. The dvd's will have good soound especily now that the flim are being mixed in dolby digital 5.1 ex surround sound. I agree with george lucas not being happy with the flims originaly because the special effect shot where never finshied. And now the flims on dvd coming on september 21st 2004 will look much better.
_________________
Kenneth Kraly Jr.

 

http://boards.theforce.net/classic_trilogy/b10002/5961991/p39

 
kenkraly2004 
Registered: Jul '03
Date Posted: 7/14/03 8:51pm Subject: RE: Official: The Star Wars DVD FAQ and Discussion thread
I think the original trilogy dvd's will have both the original version and the special edtion version on dvd. I think george lucas will change his mind about the hole dvd statis.

 

 

 

Some things you are going to have to live with, even if you don't understand why they exist.

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#458226
Topic
Save Star Wars Dot Com
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Reading parts of these documents makes you wonder if the SE were Lucas's way of testing the public to see if they believed as he did.  Going as far as you said that they were 'a threat'.

but here's a caveat:

philosophical tastes of the copyright holder.

Although he's the copyright holder he's also the creator and might not feel that these things apply to him.  The complaint at this time was Ted Turner buying movies then doing what he wanted with them.  (this issue resurfaced in 2004 when the Three Stooges were colorized, and that's what brought these GL testimony quotes back into print)

The other thing which was of interest, poking around, was there were several attempts to amend US copyright in this time period and some of the revisions centered around film.

1987.03.13 - FIlm Integrity Act (Colorization)

1987.05.12 - Legal Issues that Arise When Color is Added to Films Originally Produced, Sold, and Distributed in Black and White

1988.03.03 - Berne Convention (George's testimony)

1989.06.20 - Moral Rights in Our Copyright Laws

1990.01.09 - Moral Rights and the Motion Picture Industry

Wonder if GL saw this progression of legislation, and how they used his words in the following rounds which modified his mindset.  The 'National Heritage' line met with a roll of the eyes by some of the later testimonies.

zombie84 have you come across the 'National Heritage' quote which has been attributed to the George testimony?  this quote:

"I am very concerned about our national heritage, and I am very concerned that the films that I watched when I was young and the films that I watched throughout my life are preserved, so that my children can see them."

Or is this turning out to be a bastardization or misquote which has taken on a life of it's own?  From some of the articles of this time, GL and friends also visited the Copyright Office so maybe it's from one of those meetings.  Didn't find any documentation though from that.

 

Was odd to find these docs, then later in the day go see Tron with a digitally created actor in younger form.  (still in that uncanny valley for me, brought back Final Fantasy memories... It's Warm...)  Also found a document which could be one of the inspirations for Jar-Jar!  hey someone's gotta be into that kinda thing.

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#457995
Topic
Star wars v.s Star trek
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Please post links, then quote out the relevant parts.  This way if someone wants to they can go read the full article.

I don't think the Lucas/Kurtz rift was as abrupt as you make it out to be.  From the Making of ESB book, you get the sense that both Lucas and Kurtz felt that for ESB to be successful that they needed to up the quality, so Kurtz continued with that throughout production, while Lucas was watching his own bank account dwindle and came to the conclusion that Kurtz was giving the production team too much leeway.  This is one aspect which became a rift.  And along this way, the two of them are planning out the other episodes, don't know when Kurtz exactly left LFL camp, was it prior to the first RotJ script or somewhere during pre-production?  So when Kurtz talks about what he thought RotJ was going to be (Luke going off into the sunset for instance) when this idea was briefed would be interesting to speculate on.

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#457988
Topic
Theater Performance Preservations
Time

LexX wrote:

Sorry, I misunderstood this thread, I thought we were looking for best theatrical versions, should've read more carefully. Still, isn't that the first bootleg of an original TESB? I'm not sure if there's a right thread for this, so sorry for a little OT. :P

No this is the right thread, so far.  I've got my delusions that we'll be able to find a Theatrical Preservation which has people reacting, but I pointed out in the opening post that this thread will most likely be about the various other recordings which took place in a theater or is from the original film stock.  So your lead is the best one going for finding an actual ESB!  and i'm not particular to the 'best', which is why i'm listing any and all possible recordings or leads.  Would be great if they all surfaced so that people could apply criteria to them to figure out the best 'x' the best 'y', but right now it's just learning about what exists out there.

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#457981
Topic
YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars video finds
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Hot Damn!!!! This is why we have Television and Internet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSpEo8Onqiw&feature=more_related

(google translation)

During a TV show "serious" about the extras-terrestrial, Rene Joly sings the words of Etienne Roda-Gil (1977). Yup, this talented author has not written as masterpieces as "Alexandria, Alexandra" or "Lake Maggiore" ...

and they've subtitled it as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtRzX5ZzYfY

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#457977
Topic
The Puggo Edition - webpage and screenshots (Super 8 transfers - Released)
Time

French Super8 transfer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Giv08gRlB2Q&feature=related

(google translation)

Transferring super 8 sound - my personal collection of films in poor condition. Denoising, correcting the black level, gain, gamma correction white balance (the film had completely turned to pink), and color balance.

 

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#457974
Topic
Theater Performance Preservations
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Sluggo wrote:

I wonder if it is of a 70mm showing?

'Star Wars on Video' wrote back and updated his site with some details:

This bootleg was actually telecined from an anamorphically squeezed print


I'm sorry to disappoint you all, but my Qatar bootleg was a telecine of an
anamorphic print, not camcorded. I'm not sure about the source, but it looks
like 35mm film. Therefore, no theatrical experience there. Sorry.

No crowd noise for my curiosities, but a great reference of what once was.

 

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#457971
Topic
YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars video finds
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Fantomas wrote:

Yes, it's a television recording aired in France in december 1992, taken from my old VHS before it breaks ! I only saved the Opening and closing credits in French...

What was the occasion? channel?  does it have commercials?  I'm into these television airings.  Weird that so late, they would still air a pre-Episode version of the movie.  Thanks for the site and commercials.  Did they ever do a french audio commercial/trailer or were they always these subtitles.  I've seen the same thin lined white fonted subs in the Japanese trailers.  Maybe they never used foreign dubs in the commercials.  Which would seem strange to see the commercial in english then go to the theaters and hear it in french.

 

**Edit**

French Super8 transfer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Giv08gRlB2Q&feature=related