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- #879338
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- Star Wars Laserdisc Preservations. See 1st Post for Updates.
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/879338/action/topic#879338
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Are you using a regular average of the 5 captures or a median?
Are you using a regular average of the 5 captures or a median?
Has anyone suggested/worked on prequel edits where Jedi are allowed to marry and Anakin and Padme aren’t hiding it?
Do you wanna build a wampa?
I’ve been messing around on Fiji/ImageJ with Image registration, but I was curious if this “GraspJ” superresolution solution might be helpful at all? A fair bit of this goes over my head, but it seems as if it potentially could be used to get best possible results from SR since it offers a lot of parameters you can change and even “shot detection” to some degree.
https://code.google.com/p/graspj/downloads/detail?name=user manual v3.pdf
Sadly, I feel a lot of prequelesque dialogue drags down the trailer - only Han’s lines seem to have a natural flow to them. I can almost hear Hayden Christensen giving the same delivery on both Finn and Kylo Ren’s lines.
Here’s my attempt to find a happy medium (have a thread in FanEdits but thought it might be appropriate here as well).
I’m assuming he meant in general. My problem with the trailer was that it suffered from relying on dialogue to explain things that could be inferred from the visuals. The music only version of the trailer that’s been floating around really showed off how great this could be. I opted for a best of both worlds here.
Minimal Changes that I feel make a big difference, just some slight dialogue removal at the beginning, a dialogue change in the middle, and a shot added at the end.
I'm... less thrilled than the rest of you I guess. It made me worry that this will be a rehash of the PT in the Opposite direction. The PT was "look how big and intense and amazing we can make everything with CG". I'm a little worried the ST is going to turn out to be "look how big and intense and epic we can make everything look with as many practical effects as possible, then touch it up with CG to prove it can work to combine the two".
The OT was based on the premise of "I want to tell a story, how do we make these relevant character-developing events appear on the screen in a believable way".
actually, while more time consuming, if the program ran an image registration on our precropped areas, this process would be even more precise I'd imagine.
This probably is overthinking a bit but - is there a way to merge multiple color correction models?
My thought is create a separate tool (or integrate into this) that scans a video file for 4 frames - the frame with the most BLUE, the frame with the most RED, the frame with the most GREEN, and the frame where each is represented most equally. Output those untouched frames as png files.
Find the corresponding frames in what you're looking to match.
Create model for BLUE pair, GREEN pair, RED pair, and EQUAL pair.
Then create R, G, and B Predictions for Equal frame. Generate color models for untouched Equal to R-Equal Prediction, (and for BLUE and GREEN).
Then take the Predictions from those three, and average them with the original Equal to Equal Model.
While not as accurate as individual shot correction, I'd imagine the average of those 4 prediction models would give you the most accurate blanket color correction to apply to an entire film.
My sister put her nickname "Pineapple" instead of her 21 letter hawaiian name on FB and went through this same thing a few months ago. I think it's random, and wouldn't get overly stressed about any devious reason behind it.
Screenshot 3 looks almost over sharp - the other two look great :)
This is just out of curiousity - is there any way to run a halo analysis pass that finds "halos", then direct avisynth to replace only those spots with a version of your SR script that is less halo strong?
Where can I track down the new JSC?
Definitely interested :)
Thanks for all of the suggestions!
... this might seem odd... but any chance you could post the KiKi streamline dub somewhere? PM me if so. Been trying to get my hands on it.
I never know if I actually understand what all of you are talking about... but just in case I do :P
Is there any chance that this project could be helpful? http://gendev.spritesmind.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1647
It appears that using the Pioneer LaserActive system with the PC1 PAC gives you direct access to the iso sectors on the disc. Something like http://www.kryoflux.com/?page=download might be able to capture this directly.
Maybe that signal could then be fed to LD-Decode? Not sure if that would give any better results than a graphics card solution.
Actually, that might work on two identical (except language) tracks. It would result in just the two vocal tracks. Which could have their phase inverted and combined with the Japanese track, which would remove the japanese voices and just leave the dub.
I have absolutely no idea if this would work or not, but it seems to me that theoretically it could.
My thought on this project is based on the "My Neighbor Totoro" original english DUB - I'd love to hear the vocal talent from that release grafted onto the higher quality soundtrack backing the Japanese and Disney DUB.
Of course, this only even theoretically works if the audio is in perfect sync.
Usually when you combine audio or video, you use a regular mean average. Sometimes when you're capturing video and want to remove artifacts, you use a median average that eliminates outliers.
What you don't see a lot is MODE averaging, where the most commonly occurring pixel or sample is used.
I'm proposing a potential breakthrough in movies with dubbing at least, using a MODE average process to compare and combine audio tracks on a Per-Sample basis (or 1ms basis... just something very small).
In the case of Totoro, my thought is this - Use the following Audio Tracks
1 - Japanese Blu Track
2 - Disney Blu Track
3 - Original Dub
4 - Original Dub duplicate
5 - French Blu Track (or any other foreign language track that appears to use the same soundscape as the other Blu Tracks)
In this scenario, hopefully the 3 Blu-Sourced tracks would provide the Most Commonly Occurring Samples/sections for music and background noises/effects. In situations where there was talking, the 3 different Blu Languages would be too different, allowing the two identical Dub tracks to be the most commonly occurring.
I'm unsure exactly how to then implement this, but I'd imagine somehow phase inversion and/or difference extraction could then be used on a track like this to isolate dialogue in the other tracks as well. While not important for the project I'm interested in here, I imagine something like that would be very helpful for Star Wars edits.
Is any of this possible? Could anyone explain to me how to do it? Or should I go to sleep because it's 2 in the morning and I'm going to have no clue what I even meant here in the morning?
Has anyone looked into ripping the laserdisc mono track? I believe it's mono PCM?
Poke.
Honestly, there is nothing really required to remove the Gungans beyond cutting their scenes. You skip the entire underwater sequence at the beginning, and cut immediately to sneaking into the city after landing back on Tatooine. Then cut all of the ground battle sequences and instead jump between Anakin flying, the Maul fight, and Padme getting to the Viceroy.
I had an idea for something similar to what you're suggesting for your edit but never got around to it:
Use this crawl (or something similar):
It is a troubled time across the galaxy. Interstellar corporations have preyed upon the greed that has bred in the underbelly of the Galactic Senate. More and more star systems are finding their rights infringed upon and their pleas for help falling on deaf ears. Corruption is everywhere. On the small planet of Naboo, things have escalated to a full scale invasion. The Trade Federation has taken total control in an attempt to further entrench themselves in nearby systems. Receiving news of the plight of her people, the Queen of Naboo is returning home after an unsuccessful audience with the Galactic Senate. Having been secretly granted the assistance of two Jedi Knights, the warrior guardians of peace and justice in the Republic, she races back to rally her people against the Trade Federation before their freedom and their way of life is destroyed...
Start the film with the Naboo cruiser escaping the blockade - replace planet Naboo in these shots with Coruscant. Following this, Tatooine is mostly unchanged (with the exception of removing small bits saying their destination is Coruscant). Darth Maul can even be left pretty much in tact. They get to Naboo from Tatooine, land in the forest, people from the city show up. Proceed with the rest of the film (again, cutting out the gungan sequences) Possibly insert the scene of Anakin going to say goodbye to Padme from Coruscant after the battle, assuming it takes place on Naboo.
My thought is simply that it adds to the list of possible cuts, which considering my Phantom Hour ran 72 minutes with credits, allows for a condensed version of Episode 1 to truly be presented in an hour with a simplified but complete narrative.
This allows for a potential two in one edit where Ep 1 is an hour and episode 2 is an hour and half, giving us a reasonable two and a half hour film.
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Philosophically, Jedi prefer to use combat in defense and only when necessary. They entered the situation as diplomatic ambassadors, so escaping through vents to try and warn the queen holds more with the Jedi way than hacking and slashing their way into an unknown situation.
In the Phantom Menace, has any edit ever completely cut the initial jedi/battle droid fight on the Trade Federation ship?
It strikes me that you could cut directly from the protocol droid exiting the the smoke filled room and the battle droids talking to “Sir, they’ve gone up the ventilation shaft”. An entire sequence removed with nothing narratively relevant cut.
Shouting into an open empty space that likely no one has used in some time.
I was just hoping a demonoid invite might be hibernating in here.
I'd be very curious to see the prediction results from that, since it touches on all of the main colors.