nightstalkerpoet

Thanks 😃

Yes the highlights are a bit bright, as are the darks. I keep tinkering with it but it’s difficult to find a solution that gives each scene the right color and brightness.

I’m finding that the best shots to use for developing a color match model for Dre’s tool are wide shots of the falcon cockpit. On the wall behind them is a display showing red blue and green. One of the shifters is partially yellow. With those colors so isolated it’s easier to find the right values. Star Wars is the easiest because with Luke, Obi-Wan and Han all having similar yet different color clothing, you can get a better feel for the subtleties. The issue with these shots is the bluray is so dark that when the color is fixed the lights are really bright and it throws off brightness and contrast.

I also tend to use gimp to adjust the initial match image to fix the colors that are still wrong in the rest of the film, even if the small adjustments aren’t very visible in the match shot.

I’ve seen a few tests where MPEG2 is better at maintaining all details across the picture, while AVC/H.264 better maintains detail that the human eye is likely to see. That is why smaller things like shadow detail and potentially background items that are not the main focus may be better preserved. While you’d imagine that these smaller details aren’t as necessary, they add an extra level of depth and are very useful if you need to upscale, since the extra detail in those areas provide better approximations for what the image should look like at a larger size.

http://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/articles/h264-vs-mpeg-2-quality.html shows what I mean - look at the buildings in the background and the people in the crowd. That website does not show them at the same bitrate, but you can still see how the bitrate distribution differs.

Just a concept for a mode average plugin - I’ve always thought this would provide better results than a median average, but have never been able to find one and am unsure how to write avisynth plugins - I’m willing to learn but it would take me a while and I think this would be worth someone with more experience compiling quickly.

So, conceptually you’d have a 5 capture average (though with this setup, you would be able to use up to 13 captures. In the case of all different pixel values, even numbers of captures would find the mean of the middle two values, while odd numbers would find the median.)

Finding the mode of each pixel value, A(Pixel Value) corresponds with N(Number of clips with that pixel value), B corresponds with O, C with P, D with Q, E with R.

Initial values are N=1, O=0, P=0, Q=0, R=0 (S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z all = 0)

If B=A, N=N+1. If B doesn’t equal A, O=O+1. Check if C exists. If so, go to next line. If not, check if N=O(letter). If so, find the mean of A and B. Otherwise, go to next function.

If C=A, N=N+1. If not, check if C=B. If C=B, O=O+1. If C doesn’t equal B, P=P+1. Check if D exists. If so, go to next line. If not, check if N=O=P. If so, find the median of A,B, and C. Otherwise, go to next function.

If D=A, N=N+1. If not, check if D=B. If D=B, O=O+1. If not, check if D=C. If D=C, P=P+1. If not, Q=Q+1. Check if E exists. If so, go to next line. If not, check if N=O=P=Q. If so, remove the highest and lowest of A-D, and find the mean of the two middle values. Otherwise, go to the next function.

If E=A, N=N+1. If not, check if E=B. If E=B, O=O+1. If not, check if E=C. If E=C, P=P+1. If not, check if E=D. If E=D, Q=Q+1. If not, R=R+1. Check if F exists. If so, go to the next line. If not, check if N=O=P=Q=R. If so, find the median of A-E. Otherwise, go to next function.

SECOND FUNCTION:
Find highest value of N-Z. Select the corresponding pixel value A-M, and report that as the selected pixel value.

Next pixel.

Any thoughts or interest?

I have been working on a “one pass fixes most” for ANH on Bluray and thought it might be nice to start a thread for everyone to share LUTs and ColorMatch Models and get feedback.

Here’s my initial one for the EP4 Bluray - attempting to bring it closer to theatrical color timing: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By9sWLF9s-s6ajA2bnNNUW4wZkk/view?usp=sharing

Would love feedback.

Hmmm… I have an organ that would love to imbibe those 😎

So umm

How is this going to effect your edit, Ady? 😜

Everyone’s discretion is greatly appreciated 😎

Thanks Molly 😃

It’ll be up in a bit, just been busy.

It is the 2011 version, and it’s up!

Thanks 😃 I’ll start playing the organ as soon as I can.

otherwise, if you can torrent it directly to me or another member, this seems spleen worthy and I’d be happy to upload.

Just gotta check the Rocks.

I say make your envisioned DNR version, and merge it 15 to 85 with the non-DNR version. Should do the trick.

Just put up an alternate DVD-5 version that uses the ANH Crawl release. There is no padding at the edges, so if your TV has a Just Scan or 1:1 mode, that’s your best display option.

(This is my first DVD conversion so any suggestions would be appreciated)

http://io9.gizmodo.com/hearing-chewbacca-speak-english-on-the-empire-strikes-b-1788654809?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

I still like the “Warmer” regrade 😛

The rest are there though, just in the days following.

Onlinetvrecorder.com
You have to get an account and download their decrypter.

The date should be in the file name. Could you post the file name here?

nightstalkerpoet said:

Here’s my take on color correcting the clip towards the JSC (well, adjusting from Dre’s downscaled color correction clip)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By9sWLF9s-s6MlFWZ3JlbmZZRkE/view?usp=sharing

Bumping this to the new page so it doesn’t get lost in the Tantive discussion.

Here’s my take on color correcting the clip towards the JSC (well, adjusting from Dre’s downscaled color correction clip)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By9sWLF9s-s6MlFWZ3JlbmZZRkE/view?usp=sharing

Looking good 🤓

My take (as stated above. Pre Pre Grade Mixed with warm, slight red desaturation with slight contrast bump)

Yes, we always refer back to the original 3 when it comes to color.

Keep in mind, also, that with this project we’re looking for the right colors, not necessarily the best. My preference would actually be somewhere between the previous previous grade (more sterile, white) and the warmer grade, perhaps with red saturation dropped a bit - but that’s not what the film looked like. Part of preservation is preserving the “retro state of the art” look, making things look as good as they possibly could THEN. It’s difficult to leave things alone and not make them look as good as you can possibly make them look NOW.

Which correction setting is this? Looks more like that last alternative one and I’m not really liking the vibe.