In search as well.
Just wanted to let everyone know that I’ve released an Alternate Version of my Empire release, which uses Adywan’s Emperor from The Empire Strikes Back Revisited to match with RotJ. Anyone else got a spleenter in their finger?
Getting them all on Mega currently, I’ll send you the links once uploaded.
Anyone else, feel free to PM for links. 4GB a piece.
I hate to be “that guy”, but just in case noone on the team has caught it, the site name is misspelled at the end.
Otherwise, beautiful trailer!
Correct - no worries! I’ve found with Jedi that you never quite know what you’re going to get. Either it benefits from the workflow getting honed with the first two films, or it suffers from being left until last minute because they want to perfect the first two.
I still highly recommend all three soundtracks you released, just didn’t think Jedi SE meshed as well with GOUT video.
Clearly, the test watch didn’t go well. 😉
With that said, I’ve completed the set and released Return of the Jedi today.
Here are the notes I’ve included on the spleen:
Originally, I’d intended on using a different video source. Something about the PAL Gout always rubbed me the wrong way. Luckily, after months working on trying to find the right source, I realized what was wrong - the colors were just different enough from the NTSC Gout to hinder my nostalgia. With a few small adjustments, I found a middle ground that matched the PAL Gout color of the first two (which I really liked), and am quite happy with the results.
In my pursuit of the right video source, I also questioned if Hal’s SE RotJ mix was what was throwing me off. Throwing on the standard 93 mix, I realized that in comparison to Star Wars and Empire, the SE mix of Jedi just didn’t feel as raw and powerful to me (definitely a fault of the source, not of Hal’s wonderful audio offers). With this in mind, and wanting a matching 256kbps audio track, I chose to use Schorman’s raw 93 Mix. This was resampled with SOX using a linear filter to avoid any phase shifting that would ruin the surround mixdown, and encoded to ac3 with Aften. I’d love feedback on how this sounds on your systems in comparison to the audio of the first two.
I’ve decided for the moment not to redo Empire yet, as I’m pretty happy with this as my ideal OT set.
With that said, keep an eye out for the NSP/PT. In the spirit of lower quality sources, I think this is an excellent opportunity to release an upscale of The Phantom Edit and Attack of the Phantom with proper crawls. They will be followed with Revenge of the Sith, but I haven’t quite decided which edit I’d like to use. I’m very partial to Dawn of the Empire, but would love feedback on which edit people feel best fits with the two Phantom Edits.
Seed and Enjoy! 😃
I’m still curious on which sources have extra frames (per your notes, since your final releases have them removed for GOUT-Sync), but am pretty happy with a script I found on Doom 9 for the process of detecting your inserted black frames.
#Specify the name and location of the output file
filename = “e:\output_black_frames_rotjswe.txt”
#Specify the threshold that will be considered black (0 = pure black)
global blankthreshold=16.1 #24 seems to be a reasonable number for black frames sourced from analog
#Only look at half the fields (speeds up processing, though if you remove selectodd, it should help locate
#any half frames)
#Write the frame number
WriteFileIf(last, filename, “(AverageLuma(i)<blankthreshold)”, “current_frame”, append = false)
Bummer! Hope all is well with you poita - have you experienced anything like that before?
Do you still have the Gout Sync notes for RotJ Special Widescreen Collection? Color matching and was hoping to skip searching for the inserted black frames. (Actually, would be nice to have those notes for all releases you’ve done. Could even be used in reverse to quickly locate all additional frames available.)
Hey Frink, was wondering if you have Stankpac’s Ep 3?
The interesting thing is that when Adywan releases Revisited HD, it could probably be color corrected to this Technicolor grade, using Ady’s CC Blu-ray and Dre’s color match tool.
I tend to attribute these differences to different monitors and viewing conditions/surrounding. A few years back I spent hours on a sequence tweaking things with the room dark to wake up the next day and realize I’d desaturated it to an almost laughable amount.
Hey, if you can reasonably bring things back to life, why not? 😛 The thread really is a fascinating window into the past.
Incredibly odd thought, but maybe Ep 9 could use a CGI Recreation of Sebastian Shaw as Anakin’s force ghost, who has been trying to contact Kylo Ren but has been consistently pushed away by Snoke. Who better to tear down Vader idolization than Vader?
Or to be perfectly honest, Hayden Christensen is only 8 years younger than Anakin when he died…
Rey and Kylo could essentially train together under the force-ghost training of Luke, Obi-Wan (Ewan McGregor aged), and Anakin(Hayden aged). Even offers the opportunity for a cameo of Yoda and Qui-Gon watching the training from afar.
Then Rey and Ben go off to defeat his former allies, the Knights of Ren.
Ultimately the film ends with them/Finn/Rose/Chewie/Poe bringing down the First Order and ending with a “What’s going to control the Galaxy now?” “The same thing that’s always controlled it. The Force.”
“Then what do we do?”
“Maintain the balance”…
Hi, are these available anywhere still? Would love the full bitrate Return of the Jedi DTS. 😃
Alright - sorry for the delay on RotJ.
I really enjoy the Return of the Gout project from JawsTDS, but have always been less fond of Return of the Jedi from that set. It’s a gallant effort, but for some reason falls short in comparison to the other two. I blame the source, which I’ve always found inferior to the other two.
Originally I was waiting for JawsTDS’ new project, which was going to be working with X0+Lumagen Processing. I’m hoping that the set is going to push the limits of laserdisc scaling, and I may release a version 2 of RotJ if I like the results.
In the meantime, I’ve attempted to degrade RotJ Despecialized 2.5 to the point of PAL GOUT quality, then upscaled using the JawsTDS RotJ script. I’ve also attempted to adjust the colors a little to fit the GOUT color pallet without going overboard.
Today is the test watch to make sure the upscale of the degraded DEed is similar to the first two, and that the audio meshes in the same way. Will be posted this evening if all goes smoothly.
I just wanted some opinions on my concept for helping fix Luke between the two films.
I don’t know how to implement all of it yet, but I think if you move the part where Chewie rips off the door and Luke asks him ‘what he’s doing there’ to replace the original handing over the lightsaber ending of TFA(removing that altogether), ending the film with Luke saying “Where’s Han?” will have a much stronger emotional impact- getting to see Luke interact with Chewie and mention Han. I hated the ending because I just didn’t care much about her meeting him. I wanted to see him, from the perspective of the old films, and for that moment the trio was reunited.
It also leaves someone new to the film wondering “Why didn’t Luke sense Han’s death?”
-I also think you’d need to have very little lead up to Chewie ripping off the door. Falcon lands, use the extended hut scene to get footage of Luke sitting quietly in his hut, when Chewie is so pissed about Han - especially knowing Luke’s absence made the difference - that neither him nor Rey knock before the door’s ripped off.
This provides the opportunity to start the next film knowing that Luke had interacted with Rey to some degree. Knowing this, you can choose to set up Luke’s character however you’d like in The Last Jedi without feeling a total disconnect. I’d even toss the whole lightsaber being given to Luke at the beginning of TLJ. His other scenes with the lightsaber are far more enjoyable and communicate he got it.
Use Chewie out front roasting Porg as your initial external shot, then Luke waking up R2. Using this as your intro to Luke in this film, again he’s introduced to us by characters we connect with. This sets up Luke to have any relationship dynamic with Rey that you’d like by adjusting the remaining footage to fit your ideal balance of Classic Luke and New Age quirky Luke. You can cut out most bad dialogue this way, especially story recaps.
Here’s a rough mockup of BB-8 running to the shuttle with Finn and Rose (updated in first post):
https://vimeo.com/282243295 (password: fanedit)
The rotoscoping is very rough, and I just threw on some sound effects that I could quickly find, but let me know whether you think the idea could work!
I think/hope that this change combined with the Finn/Rose deleted scene could be enough to cut Phasma fight and BB8 in walker without the scene feeling incomplete. The scene would now have urgency AND resolution.
Looks great 😃
Any progress on your X0 project?
Yes - while I prefer theatrical TPM, Yoda not being consistent in the prequels makes my viewing preference a toss up. I understand that this is a preservation, so you may not feel it’s within your desired goals to release such a version. My suggestion is intended more to provide you the opportunity to simultaneously create such a project while you’re already in the thick of things, as opposed to someone else using your project later on as a source to release such a hybrid version.
Just throwing this out there as a suggestion - a lot of us want to see theatrical Ep 1 in HD, but I think a lot of us also want to see Theatrical Ep 1 WITH CGI Yoda. TPM creates this conundrum of the theatrical version being less canonical with Eps 2 and 3 due to the use of Creepy Puppet Yoda. Maybe two versions would serve well to address this second, less vocally sought after version? I have a lot of faith in your process and the eventual quality of your release.
Thanks! Amazing ingredients perfect simple recipes. Working on getting seeding restored (my sister didn’t pay internet 🙄).
Jedi will be up soon as well.
Not sure if anyone here is grabbing these or not (been some interest on the spleen); Empire is now available 😃
Definitely looking forward to this. So many projects of this started here, and finally looks like we’ll see an actual release from someone! We all get caught up in perfectionism, but so many of us here aren’t capable of much of the work that goes into these projects - getting our hands on something tangible is a real pleasure. Please count me in on release candidate checks, and I’m so happy to finally see the Orf make it into a project (one of the few useable things I’ve been able to bring to the site).