negative1

a couple of things,

ridley scott has a totally different attitude than george lucas..

also, (except for the final, and workprint versions).....all these versions have been available before,

so its not that great........i have them on laserdisc....and also they've been on dvd...[and yes i bought

this new 5 disc collection, and also on HD DVD]....

there are people that think the 'new' final cut is basically pulling a 'lucas' by adding things aren't

needed back into the original bladerunner.......so whats you're point?

all the OOT versions are still out there on laserdisc, and the new versions are on dvd......

and you think they should be re-released again?

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dont worry hd-dvd fans,

i'm getting the wookiegroomer versions,

and will be converting those over anyways..

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alright, now you got me all excited..

so where does one find this wonderful treasure at?

(after hearing the other 70mm mix)..

thanks for any help..

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i cant wait to see the 3d animated clone wars, - the 2d ones were too short, and lacking in graphics i thought...

i've also like cg, and have been interested in it for many years..and of course its star wars related!

bring it on George!!

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SilverWook said:

Final price $2024.00! And it's the same guy who shelled out $1600 for that "milky" Star Wars print. Dull surprise! 

Must be nice to have that amount of money to burn! :(

thank goodness,

i hate to say it, but we got away with a huge steal, i didn't pay half as much for the 35mm print !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oldschooljedi said:

I watched ESB last night filtered trough your script and I have to say: Man what a good work, g-force!!! Thanks for that.

any chance of posting samples? i would be very grateful to see what parts get 'altered' if possible.

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ok,

here's the deal..

there's no footage..

it's the same frame repeated many many times over,

the second half is for the film : the other side of midnight http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076507/

check this out:

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Because of a phenomenal success of the book, 20th Century Fox was sure that this was going to be a huge hit at the box office. At the same time there were such low expectations surrounding Star Wars (1977) that most theaters refused to book the film. So the distributor at Fox came up with the idea of a package deal: telling theater chains that if they wanted this movie they had to book Star Wars first. This movie went on to become a box office dud while Star Wars went on to become one of the most successful films of all time

so basically, i have the marketing trailer for the both films.......its pretty much a nice

souvenier / novelty piece..... no need to restore it..

but at least i have some 16mm film to mess around with now..

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ok,

here we go…

i’ll post some scans…of course…check it out…

this will also be a test to get restored also…

i’m digging the retro 77 star wars logo…and the lettering/fonts…

it has begun…

…a long time ago…in a galaxy…far far away…

frame 1

high resolution

higher resolution

i have no idea where this came from, or when it was shown or any details…

anyone care to take a guess?

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‘may the force be with you’

Sluggo said:

Can't wait to see it!  Thanks again for picking that up!

i will be posting information/shots in a new thread about this..

check it out...

coming soon..

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digitalfreaknyc said:

What's going on with that trailer?

 (referring to star wars bw trailer? right?) haven't gotten it yet..

but when i take in the first reel of esb, i'm going to take that in also, and

get it restored also..

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ok,

now i have the histograms (again)..

but has anyone messed around with fusion......****AHEM***** just got it.. (thanx again google)..

it has a lot of potentional................................so is it worth learning to how to use for

the color correction of esb? or should stick with the histograms?

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SilverWook said:

According to a friend of mine who worked as a projectionist in college, many large campus movie theaters are 16mm equipped. Prints of feature films were made for these venues. Overseas military bases also used to get their movies, and even tv shows on 16mm.  Other prints probably have more suspect origins.

So would this still be worth going after at this point?

yeah,

what do you guys think,

would this be a good 'back up' for the 35mm version?

is it worth going for?

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Octorox said:

replying to rlockhart:

 

I think you can do that but you'd need a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player to actually play it

no you don't, 

you can easily compress 720p, and 1080p movies, using various codecs from several avc/vc1-> avi formats on DVD9 (Dual Layer) formats ,

yes, you're sacrificing some quality, and if your dvd player supports it, it will play back at that resolution, you will have to check though............

unless you're very picky about resolution/details, and you have a huge screen, can you really tell the difference?

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JohnGreenArt said:

negative1 said:

by the way, if you can't tell, i'm a purist, i prefer the 77 star wars, and the 81 ep V, and 83 ep VI, but i don't mind watching the SE versions ('from time to time'), but i don't consider them as a replacement.............more like a fan edit..

 

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The 1981 version of ESB? I didn't know there was an '81 version different than the '80 version. What are the changes?

I myself don't mind the Star Wars re-release with "A New Hope" added.

 

As for Sith eyes, they're not needed. The story is told just fine without them.

 

oops, thats what happens when you get old, you forget.................maybe i did see it in the summer of 1980?

or was it still in the theaters a year later???????   no, there wasn't any differences............however, i did see

the 70mm version, not that i can remember the differences...i've only seen it 1 time in the theater, and the SE once,

and the GOUT version about 4 or 5 times since then..............

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gavin77 said:

.......and yah to Doubleofive.... I guess that I appreciate the guy....(George), that gave us all of these movies, and I believe it is his story. With that being said, I think he and Lucasfilm really jacked up with the OT releases, and I still can't believe with all of their capability to fix and restore these old films that they gave us those crappy dvd sets? So I'm somewhere in between a "Revisionist" and a "Lucas Apologist", one that really likes the PT, "just so you know who you are dealing with"....peace......

why are a lot of people on this board under the illusion that the OT is not available in good quality?

(and yes, i have ALL the dvd full screen/widescreen/special edition releases also)..

i have it on laserdisc in at least 3 variations....definitive box set, the japanese box set, and the thx faces version..

i've had it for ages...........................and yes i have a high definition tv (32 inch)....................no my eyes aren't bad...

i don't see that the dvd versions are really that bad compared to the laserdisc, and people on this board, (ok excluding

x0, v8, and a few others), have transferred over the laserdisc version to that accursed dvd format......what else do

you people want???????????????????????????

yeah, i know most of you don't care about the SE versions of course, which are also *AHEM* freely 'available' in high definition formats..........

which blow away the SE dvd's.....

..............................its just a matter of time before those get de-SE'd down to the originals...............................

in fact if we can get the 35mm version of empire cleaned up maybe that might be it...preliminary tests of the scans are decent.....

see if you can tell the difference in that thread...

i just can't understand the griping, is it that hard to buy older longer lasting, and dirt cheap laserdiscs? or are people to biased against

older technology????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

by the way, if you can't tell, i'm a purist, i prefer the 77 star wars, and the 81 ep V, and 83 ep VI, but i don't mind watching the SE versions ('from time to time'), but i don't consider them as a replacement.............more like a fan edit..

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Here we go again:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160258561639

thank God, its empire again, if it was star wars, i would have had to bid..

so whats up with these 16mm versions, when did they come out?

also, seriously, besides the 8mm versions, and this 16mm version of

star wars i here about......has there really been no one else with a

film version available to transfer?

i'm pretty sure these come up frequently, and i've only been looking

in the last few months...................

i'm surprised there aren't more prints out there that are available to

people here??????????????????????????????????????????????

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no problem..sound reasonable..

especially since its so limited...

i'm getting it for sure..

i don't mind the prequels..

but of course the original trilogy shots will be more exciting to me..

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here's some interesting shots of the full screen versions....

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/russdawson/gtf/swfull.html

lots of different looks...

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i'm just glad the 'original' raiders is available on dvd

before they 'redo' it..

it was the only one that i liked (ok the 4th was decent, but only ok)..

i don't care if they alter the 2nd or the 3rd..

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digitalfreaknyc said:

negative1 said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

please be more specific. 

 is it worth taking to a preservationist the aforementioned 16mm trailer of 'raiders of the lost ark'.

 

or is it something that is not needed, and then i can scan it, convert to video, etc, without

worrying about messing up something historical..

 

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you've given us no information about this.  where was this trailer "aforementioned?"

sorry again, my bad

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320263705536&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=011

This is a 16mm cinemascope film clip from the film, RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK (1981), which fills up a 400 foot reel. The footage is from the end of the film, beginning with Indy and Marion tied up and the Ark about to be unopened. The clip runs through the end credits – so, yes, it has the melting faces. The footage is a scope dupe, apparently taken from two different prints. The first part is nice color, with rich blue tones. This footage lasts until the Ark ghosties appear and begin to get nasty. The last part appears to be Eastmancolor, with the expected reds apparent. It is otherwise in nice shape.

Please note that the photos shown are taken without the anamorphic scope lens, so the images are squeezed.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

It looks like Negative1 decided to outbid me.  Oh well.  Now he just has to pay more because of it.

 oh shoot!!!!

i forget i had left in a bid in an automated system a long time ago (in a galaxy, far far away), and didn't remove it!!!!

sorry!!!!!!!!!!!

ok, how about this, now we can 'play around' with this print,

and then decide what to do with 'empire strikes back'..

deal?

ok,.............................(reminds himself to not put in automatic bids)..

actually i thought it would go a lot higher than that!

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digitalfreaknyc said:

please be more specific. 

 is it worth taking to a preservationist the aforementioned 16mm trailer of 'raiders of the lost ark'.

or is it something that is not needed, and then i can scan it, convert to video, etc, without

worrying about messing up something historical..

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excellent,

these rock!!!!!

now to sync them up with GOUT!

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i just got the 16mm trailer for this movie to play around with..

any point in trying to preserve it in HD ?

anybody know what we can do with it?

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yeah, and when you figure out how to convert 35mm film, let me know!!!!!!!

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