negative1

sorry, for anyone that pm'ed me about joing the preservation board..

i'll get back to you also,...

but there's still a few tiny issues before we're ready

to move over.. i screwed up something in trying to

set up some users...oooooooooooooopssssss........

don't worry its coming..

later

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AvP said:

heres a cover i made

http://i33.tinypic.com/2a83tjd.jpg

nice,

techically its nots a blu-ray, its compatible though..

later

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just a note,

it looks like we'll be moving to the

star wars Original preservation board shortly..

more info here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/35mm-comparison-of-star-wars-eng-vs-spanish/post/334276/#post334276

i will post a few announcements here,

but all of it will eventually be over there.

pm me for the link..

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ok everyone,

it looks like we can temporarily move over to

the other board setup shortly..

star wars Original Trilogy Preservation Board

===================================

1) it will be basically technical discussions, and

thoughts ONLY about the original trilogy (NO PT),

but SE talk is allowed

2) ABSOLUTELY no lucas bashing, lucasfilm, etc,

anyone who does this will be warned, and then banned if repeated

3) all fans of the original trilogy and this board are welcome

4) most of the preservation topics that were on this board

have been transferred over to there...

please pm me, and i will share the link with you..

i will post a few more times regarding these threads here,

but am moving everything over there.

thanks again for the good time i had here,

and i hope to see you there in the near future..

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TMBTM said:

I just tried to watch my DVD .vob files on VLC player and the brightness is the original one, not the darker version I see when I play it with, let's say, windows media player or some other players.

I don't know why this appends. On some players it looks "normal", on some other it looks darker.

and by the way, the quick montage made by negative 1 have the original brightness unlike the pictures he post.

I'm kind of lost with this brightness/contrast issue.

But I like both way of watching it, so for me it's no big deal, I just would like to now why there is this change from a player to another.

 i think you're right..

the pictures came from virtualdub -> capture screen

however, when saving the image -> some brightness effect happened, due to compression?

i am using 24 bit jpgs..

but i know when you're doing grayscale, you can only capture so much..

you need to see the video clip to really judge it..

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Oldschooljedi said:

 can you post some screenshots of ESB, and ROTJ?

would be interested in seeing some comparisons......but have you tried it with the new script

3.09 though?

I'm just encoding ESB with script 3.09.

Be patient, I will post some screenshots in the next days.

The older encodings I've done are not competitive compared to the encodings with the actual script so screenshots could be confusing...

thanks osj,

i appreciate seeing that..

i too will eventually get around to doing it (in between 20 other things!)

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negative1 said:

the upscaling is being worked on too, and its making progress also..

 

you really need to see the video to get the full

impact...

 

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 on a slightly related note, there is more work being done on the upscaling,

check out the progress with shots, here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Any-Suggestions-for-Better-Uprez-to-HD/topic/8971/

**NOTE : by the way, the whole GOUT chain and links are always in my signature..

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here's some more results using solo 21's script for

upscaling to 720p...

star destroyer:

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gout 5

-------

gout 5 crop

-------

gout 5 => simple resize 720p

-------

solo21 -> gout 5 upscaling 720p

-------

gout 5 full image 720p
------

adywan -> gout 5 1080p->720p
-------

adywan 720p full image:

----------

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here's some more results using solo 21's script for

upscaling to 720p...  with a comparison to

adywans (1080p->720p) ..

[****NOTE: of course there will be a color change,

and different aspect ratio....]

star wars logo:

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gout 4

-------

gout 4 crop

-------

gout 4 => simple resize 720p

-------

solo21 -> gout 4 upscaling 720p

-------

adywan -> gout 4 1080p->720p
-------

ok  , enough with the logos, lets move onto the images!

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here's some more results using solo 21's script for

upscaling to 720p...

a long time ago:

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gout 3

-------

gout 3 crop

-------

gout 3 => simple resize 720p

-------

solo21 -> gout 3 upscaling 720p

-------

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here's some more results using solo 21's script for

upscaling to 720p...

lucas logo:

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gout 2

-------

gout 2 crop

-------

gout 2 => simple resize 720p

-------

solo21 -> gout 2 upscaling 720p

-------

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ok,

here's some results using solo 21's script for

upscaling to 720p... (i will have shots comparing it

adywans version 1080p->720p) later on..

fox logo:

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gout 1

-------

gout 1 crop section

-------------------------------------------------

gout 1 -> (simple pixel resizing to 720p)

-------------------------------------------------

solo 21 ->  gout 1 upscaling to 720p

-------------------------------------------------

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here's a six minute sample clip of part 1, in xvid (lower quality).

(91 megabytes)

 http://rapidshare.com/files/157427911/star_wars_serial-1samp.avi.html

basically its the whole prequel trilogy, with scenes from every part..

i did not do the edit, it was autogenerated through an avisynth script..

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TMBTM said:

 

another thing, why didn't you use some 'old movie' filters for it,

scratches, grain, dirt, and noise???????????????

Off course I thought about that... but I did not really  feel the need.

It's my first fan edit and I wanted to make it nice looking first. Like a modern silent movie.

And frankly I did not not found good filters to do the thing!

i don't know if you have tried avisynth,

but there are some free filters here..

http://compression.ru/video/

the one for making an 'old' movie is

old cinema:

This filter is intended to achieve an "Old cinema" effect. You can vary color correction algorithm and add various artifacts, so video looks like "chronicle".

http://compression.ru/video/old_cinema/index_en.html

 here are the multiple options:

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negative1 said:

also, some of the black+white scenes, especially with vader/leia/stormtroopers

almost looked the same as the color !!!!

 

later

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 here's some cool shots from part 2:

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Oldschooljedi said:

I'm sure the actual script 3.09 makes a good job with ESB and ROTJ too, because the quality of the unprocessed videos is a littlebit superior compared to the unprocessed ANH.

I encoded all three movies earlier this year with the script that was actual at this time and the result was really, really good, although I did not alter the script for every movie.

ROTJ looked the best with the script then.

 can you post some screenshots of ESB, and ROTJ?

would be interested in seeing some comparisons......but have you tried it with the new script

3.09 though?

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[*** NOTE TO MODERATOR: CAN this thread be moved to the technical area? i have to keep looking for it...

THANKS ***]

i agree...

the storyline for this one was very good too..

a lot of deaths in the beginning, and some self sacrifice near the end..

yeah, i'm sure that happens a lot in 'children's cartoons .. ha ha..

they're maintaining a pretty good standard so far..

it was a basic story, but it had a lot of nice elements in it..

let's wait for the usual criticisms coming up in .....4...3..2....1..

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i'm watching parts of the second half..

i wish there was a scroll for this one..

another thing, why didn't you use some 'old movie' filters for it,

scratches, grain, dirt, and noise???????????????

the quality of the video is too good to look like a 'serial'...

also, some of the black+white scenes, especially with vader/leia/stormtroopers

almost looked the same as the color !!!!

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a few more images:

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i'm also converting it into 2 xvid avis... to make it smaller..

later

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i will be seeding this for as long as i can...

a few images:

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ok,

i have the first part, still watching it...

===============================

1 great job on synchronizing the sound to the action ,.... very good!

2 nice job on cutting out all the extra dialogue..

3 i wish the text was bigger, and not as blocky...

4 also, i know the stories, but it can get confusing when more than

   one person is having a dialogue, and you don't know who said what..

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bkev said:

Hey guys, just wondering.  Would this script work on other projects as well, like, say EditDroid?

 i doubt it, since it was tweaked specifically to work with the officially released GOUT

version..

you could always take the script and alter it, and try it with a short segment for a test..

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nice story,

i used the google translator polish->english,

it came out pretty well...

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bkev said:

Right now, I think the Spanish print looks better.  But I'd need to see them side-by-side (for real, not switching tabs) just to be sure.  

although its way too early..

i think i will try to move the files to my main computer....

don't judge these just yet, we need  a lot more images,

i'll be working on it this weekend......

the best thing to do is put up the raw shots..

the color correction is throwing off the way it looks..

basically we have:

spanish print                                               english print

============================================================

1 faded colors                                            red shift

2 spliced in intro of lesser quality              original intro

3? spliced in segment of greedo               original greedo (i hope i have this reel, checking)

------------------------------------------

4  they both have the original crawl (no ep IV, or 'a new hope')

thoughts

=========

1) i think its a lot easier to fix a faded print, than to mess around with red shifts

2) there might be more scratches on the spanish print intro

3) still checking if i have this reel in english print

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by the way, i've noticed that the colors are different in this version,

of course that's due to my overcorrection, and also trying to compensate

for the red shift....will work on it..

the other scans for the spanish print were here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Making-our-own-35mm-preservation-my-crazy-proposal/topic/5853/page/10/

 i'm working on 2 different monitors on this older computer,

and the colors look different from the other 2 i used to work

on , so its making it difficult to judge the colors..

later

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