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and the last of the introductory scenes..

the rest should be thumbnails, unless we

want to see blowups of the comparisons..

the intro to the crawl

(NO EPISODE IV, or 'a new hope')

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text from the crawl..

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a long time ago..

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the star wars logo

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i'm only going to put the first few corrected pictures

in FULL size for now, but i'll put up the rest as thumbnails..

also, i need to redo the untouched versions..

sw ep 4(eng) - fox logo

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lucasfilm logo

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i'll put up  some comparison shots shortly , i'm still organizing

the scans, since they're on two different computers..

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ok,

just not to completely mess up the other thread about

preserving the prints..

i've finally got both the english (5/6) and full spanish

versions now..

now comes the hard part...or maybe not.. figuring out

which one is better.. or maybe we will have to combine

parts from both of them..

i guess i'll put up raw samples of the same frame, and

then apply the same color corrections to both to see

what happens, but that might not work either, since

one might look better with a different correction..

i'll show you what i mean..

i could use some advice on the best way to go about this..

i'm running out of time (moving/job/etc) since my computer/scanner

had problems, so we lost a lot of time.... so i might not be able

to put up as many shots, but i'll try to cover the reels i have for

both (except 3, which i didn't get for the english one)..

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just a few other notes on the english reels, before

we jump over there:

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-looks like they are in good shape, with a slight red

shift on them..

-not too many scratches on them yet...

- SURPRISE !!!!!!!!! this is an original crawl also,

no episode 4 anywhere to found, or 'a new hope' either.

so now we have 2 versions of the original.....

ok, i'll get back to posting some images..

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ok, finally getting back to these..

i forget where i was.. oh yeah reel 1 (spanish)..

ok, i'll finish a few more shots of that here..

and start another thread just for the comparisons,

otherwise, it will get all confusing..

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Funcha said:

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, I want to make these PS3 compatible (AVCHD?).

1) this should be in the technical section/forum

2) those are 2 different formats ... if you see what adywan did, those

are in AVCHD format already, why do it again?

3) yes, you could convert the wookiegroomer version over to bluray,

but how many people can play it, or burn them? its still too expensive..

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and last but not least..

the falcon soars in space

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the escape pod takes off with c3po and r2d2

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the intro to the trailer..

(full size)

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well, i hope you enjoyed seeing this trailer sample..

i'll put it away for good keeping now...and hopefully

it can be used in testing the transfer..

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a few more before we get to the beginning..

luke guns down some tie fighters

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a doomed tie fighter

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the radar dish on the falcon

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princess leia and chewbacca

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still more red shift..

darth vader interrogates leia

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ok, finally fixed some of the red shift

a beautiful leia looks worried...

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Sluggo said:

AH, that feels better all ready.

 

The scans are coming along nicely.  Are you looking at that original Revenge of the Jedi trailer?  The sandstorm sequence would be a killer item to have nicely restored.

 due to time constraints, and everything else, i didn't have a chance

to get it....i'm not sure the sandstorm images were on that trailer..

were they??????? it didn't look like it.. they only mentioned 2 luke scenes

and the title..(neither  looked like the sandstorm scene)

hmmmm..... will have to check it out..

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there's a lot of red in the next series of shots..

also, i'm still working on the focus.

c3po talks to luke

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shootout at docking bay 94

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han solo shoots back at the stormtroopers

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a fierce chewbacca

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for the sake of completion,

i'll put up a few more shots...

and also to make sure my scanner

works on the old computer....(its slower,

but hey at least we have something now)..

master ben kenobi

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luke fixes r2d2

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C3PX said:

i find it interesting how you point to a lot of movies by spielberg, (jaws, etc).  and yet you

never seem to think he's also at fault for ruining a lot of current series, and using just as much cg

in movies also...

 

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Sky didn't mention the 2002 version of E.T. because it is a non issue. It sucked, we all complained about it at the time, it was lame, BUT the very first DVD release of E.T. included both versions is EQUAL quality, so while it sucked, it didn't matter because you had the original from the get go. Likewise, had the SW trilogy been released with both versions in EQUAL quality from the very first DVD release in 2004, or had a release equal in quality to the 2004 versions since then, you'd be amazed how quickly people like us would stop bitching, just like we did when they got smart and decided to release both versions of E.T. in 2002. What is your preoccupation with E.T.'s 2002 release -1? You seem to be talking about it quite a lot lately. Personal, I think it is an excellent example of exactly how a film that is treated to a director's cut so many years down the road ought to be treated.

 

the reason i keep mentioning ET , was that it was a beloved movie, with a huge following,

and success also...i think since it didn't spawn a series, there isn't a fanbase as such that

is vocal, as is there is for star wars....also, as i mentioned in another thread, the release

of the special edition, didn't originally include the original movie, and still doesn't in other

non-US regions.....so there is a valid point there....

As for your second comment about sky not seeming to care about Spielberg using a lot of CG and ruining current series... are you kidding me??? Sky bitches about Indy 4 and Spielberg along with it at least three time a day. Even more confusing is how you quoted him saying, "Too bad we owe the era of bad cgi fakery to a mostly entertaining film Jurassic Park.  It truly created a monster..." as an example of how it is interesting to you how he does not complain about Spielberg's use of CG. Perhaps you are misinterpreting that quote to be Sky praises Spielberg for bringing on an era of CG over use?

what i meant, was that he didn't complain up until now, and even then, he attributes it to

involvement of LUCAS.... is it possible that spielberg is also a big fan of CG? he uses it enough too,

but isn't critcised for it.....

anyways, seeing how skyjedi has yet to reply,

its speculation on both our parts..

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update 10/23:

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excellent news!

well, about 1 hour ago, they arrived,

we finally have reels : 1,2,4,5,6

for Star Wars in english.......

i'm setting up another computer to do the scanning,

hopefully i can get going with that, and we can

start doing some comparisons....

i'll let you know what the early impressions are..

be seeing you...

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skyjedi2005 said:

There are films i constantly rewatch and those i don't. 

 

movies i always get around to watching again:

 

Et

well, i actually agree with some of your points, but you don't seem

to mention the mess made with the 2002 revised CG version of ET?

i'm pretty sure you didn't care for the changes in it right?

Clone encounters of the third kind

must be a psychological thing, 'clone' -> 'close'....

i like this movie, the original that is, they kept releasing more and more

versions of it, with nothing really added, except seeing inside the spaceship, and

more of the aliens etc.... the original is a classic.

star trek movies 1-6

sorry, only the 1st was Ok, and the 2nd was good, i never liked any of the rest of them..

although, once again, the originals are on laserdisc only..

you can only get the new special editions with the cleaned up effects on DVD, i think.. 

 i havent seen to many complaints about that either..

Almost all modern cinema is pure garbage.  There will be only three watchable films this year for me Dark Knight, Iron Man

 

dark knight didn't impress me, i liked the original first two...also iron man was just a poor mans

retelling of 'robocop'.. i can't speak for the bond movie, since i didn't care for 'casino royale' either..

Too bad we owe the era of bad cgi fakery to a mostly entertaining film Jurassic Park.  It truly created a monster, made Lucas go gaga for cgi "ooh, ah.  Yes that looks faker than it did before i'm sold, how much time and money does it save me."

i find it interesting how you point to a lot of movies by spielberg, (jaws, etc).  and yet you

never seem to think he's also at fault for ruining a lot of current series, and using just as much cg

in movies also..

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interesting..

i'll check it out.

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skyjedi2005 said:

"Visual effects supervisor Pablo Helman (who worked on Lucas' Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace and Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones, as well as Spielberg's War of the Worlds and Munich) traveled to Brazil and Argentina to photograph elements that were composited into the final images.^[56]"

Sending one guy to shoot still photographs to composite in cgi hardly counts as going on a location shoot so you can keep dreaming.  Also Hawai is a part of the us.

 your original criticism was that they didn't go anywhere outside the US to shoot the film,

i just wanted to clarify that it was wrong the way you stated it. obviously they did.

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skyjedi2005 said:

No going to Peru, tunisia, or any other location needed we can fake it all in the computer nobody will notice.  I certainly did.

 gee, you must not have looked very hard.. or you get fooled easily..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Kingdom_of_the_Crystal_Skull

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Afterwards, they filmed scenes set in the Peruvian jungles in Hilo, Hawaii until August. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is the biggest film shot in Hawaii since Waterworld, and was estimated to generate $22 million to $45 million in the local economy. Because of an approaching hurricane, Spielberg was unable to shoot a fight at a waterfall, so he sent the second unit to film shots of Brazil's and Argentina's Iguazu Falls.
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Yeah, i guess Brazil, and Argentina are part of the US now?

i'm not sure if you actually watch the films you criticize...

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i've also been playing around with this program,

super resolution:

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http://www.thedeemon.com/VideoEnhancer/

here's a few samples, of the upsample to 720p...

i still can't get the video output to work though,,

looks promising..

on the left is the GOUT using the gforce script,

and the right is the upsampled version..

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skyjedi2005 said:

Spielberg lives in his own version of reality I like to call "Bizarro World".  Where the 1982 ET is perfect and the original was good enough to placate those Older fans who did not get his "vision".

Also ET was such a great character he needed to be turned into a cartoon figure, lol what sane person wanted that! 

Spielberg was seduced with the Dark Side of Cgi and it convinced him it would make ET better when Spielberg's original instinct was to shoot it without them and use traditionally bulit sets props and models and Glass Mattes.  He should have followed his first instinct. 

No lets take out the guns, and replace them with walkie takies, no one will notice.  I certainly did.

To this day i cannot fathom why  Spielberg still has a job in the film business i mean that movie was that bad.

again, a few corrections..

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vote_for_palpatine said:

Socks, plants, rival camps of fans, suppressing cinematic history - my God, Steven Spielberg is totally insane.

 there, fixed it for you.

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C3PX said:

What other DVD set has ever done that to us before without so much as a warning in the form of the words "Special Edition" or "Director's Cut"? I cannot think of any.

well, the original 2 disc versions of ET only had the 2002 version, and

in region 2, you had to buy the 3 disc version to get the original ..

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/4808/et-2-dvd-limited-edition/

and guess what genius changes were made in 2002:

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An extended version of the film, including altered special effects, was released on March 22, 2002. Certain shots of E.T. had bothered Spielberg since 1982, as he did not have enough time to perfect the animatronics. Computer-generated imagery (CGI) was used to modify several shots, including ones of E.T. running in the opening sequence and being spotted in the cornfield. Spielberg also altered the spaceship's design, adding lights. Scenes shot for but not included in the original version were introduced. These included E.T. taking a bath, and Gertie telling Mary that Elliott went to the forest. Spielberg did not add the scene featuring Harrison Ford, feeling that would reshape the film too drastically. Having become a father, Spielberg was more sensitive about the scene where gun-wielding federal agents threaten Elliott and his escaping friends; he digitally replaced the guns with walkie-talkies.

more about the release:

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Although director Steven Spielberg eventually stepped in to make sure that both the 2-DVD and 3-DVD sets included the 1982 version, the studio only made this announcement at the last moment, after many had likely made their pre-orders for the box set online.

and so many people think Speilberg is great, when he does something

just as controversial, but no one seems to remember that, do they?

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what kind of computer do you have, and what operating system?

what tool did you use for converting it?

(if you are running windows, try  super, its free):

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http://www.erightsoft.com/Super.htm

otherwise, you will have to rip the audio and select just

the track you want..

by, the way, there is an .mp4 IPOD version of this that was released..

it's on the star wars newsgroups, and it was on demonoid (bittorrent)

when it came out... you might want to ask around for that..

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Oldschooljedi said:

Sounds nice.

What codec will you use, MPEG2 or x264?

Please post some screenshots later.

 i'm having a lot of trouble with virtualdubMod 1.5.4.1, and trying to

save .h264 or mpg2, with the latest ffdshow, it crashes every time

with any settings, changes make no difference.....

for now, i'm saving as a very high (4k rate) with xvid... i'm going to try some

other filters..... or write a separate script to output the results..

yes, i'll post some screenshots when i get some results..

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