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Baronlando said:

The hell??

If it had all ended in 1983, it would be no different than The Godfather or Jaws or Animal House or any other well-liked movie from that era. It'd be on your shelf and you could watch it if you felt like it, life goes on. THE END.

you might want to pick better examples:

there were 3 more sequels for jaws,

2 more for 'the godfather',

and 2 tv-spinoffs, and 2 movie sequels for 'animal house'..

i doubt any of those made any impact, or created more fans for the original..

unlike 'star war's where all the new material has created a larger, bigger,

fan-following, and demand for more movies/tv shows/books/comics etc..

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Vaderisnothayden said:

 

negative1 said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

If it's just a cartoon show then it shouldn't getting passed off as real Star Wars. And if it is getting passed off as real Star Wars then it should be judged by that standard.

 

what exactly is 'REAL' star wars?

 

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Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, in the forms they were in before the SE was made.

ok fine..just the movies.. 

But generally, the way it's been, the movies (including the PT and SE) have been what's taken seriously and the rest hasn't, so now it's a big change that an animated movie made of tv episodes is treated as if it's serious Star wars. That's the sense I was using the term "real Star Wars" in that post. I was talking about the EU versus movies divide, and this thing is being included in the movies section when it belongs in the EU section. Yes I don't consider anything from 1997 on to be real Star Wars, but in the sense I meant in that post there's a view that the movies (all of them) are real Star Wars and the Clone Wars seems to be getting included in that.

 

who says the 'rest' haven't been taken seriously? there's a lot of talk about canon in

ESB:R thread...so that's where it breaks down, what everybody thinks is their personal

'canon' compared to the variations on canon from 'George Lucas' ...

it all depends on how you look at it, its all right 'from a certain point of view'..

i'm trying to figure out why the events in the clone wars contradict the original trilogy,

if that's what the problem is...so far i haven't seen it.

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Vaderisnothayden said:

negative1 said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

I saw the pilot movie and that was enough for me.

 

so have you watched the tv series or not?

 

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The Clone Wars movie IS the tv series. It's made out of episodes of the tv series and it's the start of the tv series.

 

that's funny, since it was NEVER actually shown on tv, do you even know your facts?

or do we have to correct you about this also? it's hard to understand you, when you

don't grasp the basics of the 'clone wars'...

obviously you havent' seen any yet,

so your criticisms are a moot point..

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thought exercise :

==================================================

[premise]

star wars trilogy ends in 1983...

no movies/books/comics/tv shows/games : NOTHING COMES OUT that

is related to any kind of star wars media , when 'return of the jedi' ends..

NO NEW VIDEO TAPES/ NO LASERDISCS / NO DVD'S/NO BLURAY

no plans to EVER show it again/RELEASE IT AGAIN/re-release it IN ANY FORMAT EVER.. (and no, no one can release anything

related to it either)..

yeah fine, you can keep everything released up until that point..books,

comics etc..

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would this board exist?

(maybe)

would you even care about star wars anymore?

(possibly)

would you even bother complaining about the original trilogy?

[yes, you would, because at the point, all you would have to

complain about is all the mistakes/errors/problems in the original trilogies]..

basically re-read the threads about ANH:R and ESB:R ,

because that's all there would be to talk about, and you

eliminate half of that because the SE and PT wouldn't exist..

yeah, there's 'star wars' boards out there THAT ONLY TALK ABOUT
the ORIGINAL TRILOGY, and dont' care about the SE/PT/Clone wars,

(like my preservation one)... but guess what?

not a whole heck of a lot goes on there? (mine's on hiatus until next year)..

pretty exciting , right? yeah, i thought so.....

face it, without any new star wars material... you'd be

======================================

1) bored out of your minds

2) watching your same videos over again for the 100th time

3) fantasizing about new some new stars that would NEVER come out...

yeah, that's why i like living in the past so much, because i don't have to

face reality, and the present.......... and be stuck there with the bunch of

you that wish it were true..

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Vaderisnothayden said:

skyjedi2005 said:

And you think the prequels were bad or had cringeworthy Dialogue Clone Wars was the worst piece of trash to ever come out of the star wars canon. Skyguy, Stinky and Artooie.

Don't forget "punky muffin".

"overweight glob of grease"

"nearsighted  scrap pile"

"nerf-herder"

"don't send one of your twerps"

"walking carpet"

"old fossil"

"hunk of junk"

"sorceror's ways"

"hokey religions"

"fuzzball"

"flea-bitten furball"

"laser brain"

"bantha fodder"

give me a break... they're all just as bad if not worse..

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Vaderisnothayden said:

If it's just a cartoon show then it shouldn't getting passed off as real Star Wars. And if it is getting passed off as real Star Wars then it should be judged by that standard.

what exactly is 'REAL' star wars?

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Vaderisnothayden said:

I saw the pilot movie and that was enough for me.

so have you watched the tv series or not?

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skyjedi2005 said:

Any test screening should conform Generally to the shooting script. The Jabba scene and biggs scenes were in the shooting script and John Jympson rough cut but not in any near finished version of the movie and certainly not the one shown at northpoint.

The Luke missing with his grappling hook scene i don't even remember even being in the Shooting Script though i could be wrong, not sure. I know there was a version of the script where Luke misses on his first go on the death star trench and then hits the reactor shaft on the second try.

 

This guy Marsters is gonna be in the Dragonball movie,lol. He can be in a joke of a movie like that playing a character who has bat nipples and try to make up some story about a supposed rough cut of star wars no one else saw.

thanks skyjedi2005, for the information...

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i doubt he was lying (just wrong about the date)..

granted there are other things wrong on starwars.com,

but he does know Lucas, and for them to put up information about a test screening,

when there wasn't one , would bring out some comments that can be verified by other

impartial sites...

i did a google look up of the information, and it pretty much verifies that it happened..

and like it said, it wasn't just him, there were a lot of people there..

it's just a matter of finding someone that actually remembered it, and rememered it

well enough to verify if there were differences or changes in it..

if i knew ahead of time i was seeing something else before everyone (ie. reporter/reviewer),

i would be making notes, and watching very carefully to make out details..

if it was just for fun (like it was for most of those kids)... i doubt they would remember

specific details about it, to recall what the differences were..

i dont' have a great memory, (but my brother does), and he can easily recall all

kinds of details about stuff from our childhood that i can barely remember.. and

it can be verified by what my mom says, (pictures/and other stuff too).. so his

memory is more 'photographic' than mine..

there was a case of a woman that could 'never' forget anything she saw/read/watched,

it was really interesting (and hard for her though).... who made notes about everything,

and could recall them pretty much instantly..

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=4813052&page=1

yeah, maybe if somehow had some of that ability, we wouldn't be wondering about

all these details of test showings / mystery prints / deleted scenes / changed scenes..

but this is the closest i've seen to the actual confirmation that their MIGHT have

been a test print that people have actually seen, so i wouldn't dismiss it as lightly

as you have.

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Gaffer Tape said:

Yeah, that's probably true. But how many have aired so far? Six or seven? I haven't been keeping up.

9 episodes, and there's comics/books/and of course a ton of other things to reference.

it's keeping the star wars universe alive, and thriving............yes, i know people are

still talking about the original trilogy....

i wonder how much of that talk is ACTUALLY about anything NEW in them?

i would have thought talk about the originals (excluding EU/books/comics), would

have ran dry a long long time ago.........................

to each their own

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found this online sample of the book:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2726900/The-Secret-History-of-Star-Wars---Free-Sample

its the first 82 pages of the book...

very good!

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Baronlando said:

The Northpoint test screening was in 1977,

thanks, i need to use google more often to check things..also..

SilverWook said:

Yeah, she was pretty damn vicious in last night's episode. Made me wish she had been in the movies! They didn't shy away from showing her using a lightsaber to kill, either. Double wow.

i didn't want to put up a spoiler..but anyways,

for all those people saying this series is for kids only..

yeah, maybe some of the episode look that way..

but this episode definitely wasn't............

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gosh, i hate it when i read stuff like this:

James Marsters Talks Clone Wars

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Yes! George Lucas actually invited my entire drama class in 1976 to go to the North Point Theatre in San Francisco to see the first public showing of Star Wars. We waited in line for 3 1/2 hours. When we finally sat down, George Lucas came downstairs and apologized before the movie and said that they were still editing and that the special effects weren't perfect, but said that "I think you'll like it." Then he went back upstairs and it started.

http://starwars.com/theclonewars/news20081205.html

so i guess, a pre-editted version WAS shown in public, i doubt that many people would

be wrong, and if they were, why would they put that on the official website?

who knows, if this version was shown somewhere else ????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First off : 1976????????????

secondly:

my thoughts are, Lucas was

referring to the sound editting not being finished,

and the special effects looked rough (but they were FINAL).....so maybe its not

that big a deal after all............................[but you never know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

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did you read the sticky at the top?

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ADigitalMans-Guide-to-MPEG2-AC3-Editing/topic/3444/

womble can do it, and  there should be a working demo also..

check it out..

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Gaffer Tape said:

While it's not surprising that the classic trilogy has the majority of posts, it does blow my mind that in the course of only several months, people have found 2,000 different things to talk about in regard to The Clone Wars movie! Since I've never seen the movie, I can't say for sure whether or not this is out of the realm of possibility, but it does surprise me that one poorly received, moderate box office success of a movie has nearly half as many topics as the entire prequel trilogy.

The more you know, huh? ^_~

there's a lot of talk about the tv episodes too, i guess...

that might account for it.

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Funcha said:

So Adywan, which release is next on the list for the AVCHD treatment? Will you have time while working on Empire Revisted?

my guess is (but you never know!):

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Disc 6: THE RETURN OF THE JEDI (basic colour correction)
Details:- 1080p True 24fps
AC3 5.1 English Dolby Digital Audio
Ac3 2.0 Directors commentary (selectable with the audio button on your remote)
Chapters
No menus
No Hayden

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yes there is a filesize limit with fat32...

The maximum possible size for a file on a FAT32 volume is 4GiB minus 1 byte (2³²−1 bytes). Video applications, large databases, and some other software easily exceed this limit.

NTFS doesn't have that problem, i'm sure the client created the file properly..

(you might want to check the filesize)..

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brilliant episode..

and for all those whiners that say the dooku, and ventriss

can't do anything right, well here you go..

excellent fight scenes, and lots of tension/betryals etc...

and the next episode looks even better!!!!

the lair of grievious !!!!!!!!!!!

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skyjedi2005 said:

You never had Flash Gordon stepping in poo, or making a bizarre love conversation with dale arden while managing to be entirely wooden and creep audiences out at the same time stalker eyes.

**AGAIN, off topic here, darn, i need to stop doing that..

i'm pretty sure you're talking about the original versions..

but the campy 80's version (with the queen soundtrack) was actually faithful to

the look and spirit of the originals...... the newer tv show was WAY off target (the sci-fi

channel version), but still fun to watch..

and although i'm not sure what you think, but there's a lot of bad acting/dialogue in

every version of 'flash gordon'... so i'm not sure where you were trying to go with that..

maybe a better example would have helped...

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C3PX said:

That is pretty cool. I wish I lived near one of those places, I'd definitely go see it.

 

as i mentioned before, i'm close by!!!

i'm trying to work out a schedule to go..

if anyone else is, let me know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

would be kind of funny to see peoples reaction to it, (if they haven't seen it before)..

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lordjedi said:

Stick with hard drives.

Seriously. Unless you need the portability that optical discs offer, just use hard drives. It sounds like you've spent quite a bit on disc space already. You could build a 6 TB RAID 5 array with cheap SATA drives (5 1.5 TB drives in the array). That would give you all kinds of space and some redundancy. And if you want to back that up (which I do recommend), you can get 4 1.5 TB USB drives. Back the whole thing up to the 4 drives and you're all set.

Do you really need all that stuff though? Are you ever going to find time to watch it all? I'm thinking the same thing as C3PX. What good does it do to have all that stuff if you never get to watch it? Do you have parties a lot where you just want to be able to watch whatever you want, whenever you want?

Anyway, the hard drives are probably far more likely to last then the optical media is. Recordable CDs and DVDs are notorious for failing after a few years, so you really are better off having everything in an array on the hard drives.

shhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! don't tell anyone, buts that what i was thinking also, i wanted to

buy a dedicated quad core computer, and set up a raid like the one you mentioned, and

make it media center... that way i can move this current computer to a dedicated video

processing/conversion/editting machine....i already have a dedicated pentium 4 that does

all the downloads 24/7 setup, so i don't have to worry about disk thrashing, space, etc..

3 whole computers!!!! for one person !!! (ridiculous, i know)...

yes, i actually do watch several movies a day, since its winter time here, and i'm not much

of a fan of going out right now..[i do bike/travel in the spring/summer/autumn when the

weathers better here on the east coast of the US]..... but for every bad/cheesy/terrible

movie, there's always some good ones there to watch, and of course a ton of tv shows

that i never got around to watching.............anyways, you can read about my reasons

why above in the reply to c3px..

thankx again for the advice.....honestly, i don't mean to sound like bragging,

but i'm glad i actually have a job that pays well in order to afford this stuff,

because for the longest time, i would just be backlogged with things, and never

could afford the right equipment to set it up correctly..... i guess not having a wife/kids/

girlfriend allows me to have a pretty large discretionary sum of $$$$ to play around

with........and yes, i'm a gadget freak too!!!! [hmmmmmmmmmm....maybe it's time

to buy another widescreen tv that actually supports 1080P!!!  must resist sales!!!!!!!!!!!!]

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C3PX said:

Phew. I dunno what to tell you -1, I know your situation is not unique, I have an old college budy who is a download addict and a packrat as well. He feels the need to collect and archive everything every created by mankind (hopefully you are not as bad as he is ;). Before the big file sharing boom, he actually purchased everything, and has a room in his house with retail DVDs stacked along the walls, filling boxes, and filling bookshelves. Same thing with audio CDs. Now he has spindle after spindle after spindle after spindle filled with all sorts of stuff. He is constantly pulling stuff off the web, and archiving it. Just about every single TV show I have ever heard of, he has backed up on DVDs within his vast collection of spindles (he has a whole argument chock full of fallacies about how it isn't illegal and that he is within his rights of fair use, whatever). I watch as this room in his house becomes more and more bloated with crap, so much stuff stacked on the floor you can barely move around in there. He too could benefit from a new revolutionary form of file storage, or a shrink! Seriously, it has got to be some sort of mental sickness. Countless hours of non-sense recorded on those discs, and countless hours spent worrying about downloads completely, running out of disc space, recording stuff on discs, ensuring all the data is verified, categorizing, printing out labels for the spindles, etc. So much work being put into this. Is he ever going to watch even a fraction of all that stuff? Even if he could, would he really want to waste so much of his life in front of a TV/computer screen to do so? After all, we only have so many hours on this earth. I think such a situation needs a little bit more help than a higher capacity means of storage.

[*** ONCE AGAIN, i'm veering offtopic here,

sorry about that]

ok, the truth is out !!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm the college buddy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

holy fricking cow, yes that's my situation EXACTLY , are you spying on me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's the situation down to the exact way you described it !!!! (ok, maybe i'm a little more

organized)...... i know that once upon a time, i had friends go through this 'phase', and

i wondered what the big deal was...... it's very insidous...as i seem to be caught up in it too..

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the worst part is how easy it is to find obscure stuff..

there's tv sites for every tv show that you can think of.

the piratebay has thousand upon thousands of movies and games\books\software..

every time i think of a movie, i google it, and it there's waiting..

same with almost every song\video\etc....

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yes, it's an addiction, i do agree.

every time i think i've finished downloading what i wanted,

and then someone comes along and mentions something, or there's a new edit,

or a 'high-def' version out there...................... and don't get me wrong, i still

actually buy stuff too........so it's not all just 'previews', 'fanedits' etc...

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in a way, it's an escape...................

i've just had 2.5 months off from work, and believe me, i've watch a very high

percentage of my downloads (>70%), that still leaves a ton of things to watch..

but i have fun programming my own shows (since i never watch tv)..so i always

end up watching a few movies every day....and several tv shows....

i used to be a huge video game fan, but i dont' play them as much, so i have a lot

of time.....

also, i live alone, don't go out/don't party/etc..etc..., so its very easy to have pretty

much every free hour (besides a few hours of sleep) available to watch and do other

stuff...............................................[basically no 'real' life]..........

YES, I KNOW ITS SAD,

YES, I WISH IT WAS DIFFERENT,

but sometimes thats what happens when you move away from your friends,

or all your friends are married, or you lose interest in going out, etc...

i'll also admit that it's kind of a hobby, and maybe the thrill of the chase is

more satisfying at times.... but in a way, it's been a good thing, because i

now have pretty much 70% of every star wars fanedit, and version i've ever

looked for... and it's taught me a lot about video formats, conversion , editting

etc... especially with all the high definition formats.....

and of course, everybody at work is always asking about what the latest stuff

is, and when they get copies etc....in fact, there's a few girls that want some things,

so it might actually be opening some doors there (i hope)..

anyways, no, i hope i don't need help, and that it will be contained, and just turn

out to be yet another phase.......LITERALLY, i might just cut off the high speed access

for awhile, and just take a break, so i can organize all the stuff.

you know what, i'm beginning to wonder (just for fun), that if someday,

there will be a way to somehow setup a huge database/site where you

can store your own version of the 'internet' , with dedicated access to

all your material, so that you can 'stream' (in high-def, or whatever)... and

not have to worry about it locally ..(of course due to copyright restrictions,

this will never happen)...

but zshare is pretty awesome at letting you stream music, without having

to save it, etc................. and youtube and other video sites, are getting

better about putting up full movies (in widescreen finally)..... so someday

you may not have to ever download anything at all.... and yes i know about

on-demand HD, and cable, but that's yet another cost, and source that i

want to avoid, because sometimes the selection isn't that great (yet)....

ah, the dilemma of modern day digital lifestyle...

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Ziz said:

negative1 said:

right now, i'm in the nightmarish position of trying to figure out how to organize

several terabytes of data, and be able to find something without digging through

hundreds of discs.

 

Categorize.

Start by making piles of discs. Start with all the categories of movies that you see in Blockbuster aisles or on Netflix. Once you get through that, start working out your own categories - or sub-categories within the standard movie ones - to suit your collection. Behind The Scenes, Fan Edits, Not Officially Available on DVD, Recorded from Broadcast, and so on.

Once you've got all these piles worked out, start putting them into Excel, or if you have a heavy-duty version of Office, use Access. If you feel the need to have everything in printed form, use different color loose-leaf binders for the various categories.

I'm also guessing you have a number of discs that are just conglomerations of whatever was clogging your hard drives at that point in time. Assuming you have as much content as you say you do and aren't exaggerating, keep in mind that part of this process will most likely involve copying and re-organizing content from one disc to another or out onto separate discs.

BINGO! that's exactly what i'm doing, i've just started the first pass, at cataloging the files,

and i do have them categorized in excel, and i have started working on a basic Access database..

what i did at first was try copying all the DVD's to harddisk, and then categorizing them,  but then

i ran out of room...

and no, i wish i was exaggerating, but that's what happens when you have your computer

running 24/7, and rapidshare/bittorent running nonstop also..

thanx for the hints.

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Gaffer Tape said:

Geez, to all those people saying that this new Star Wars stuff is bringing in new fans, I have to disagree. I don't think I'd like Star Wars if I came into this mess...

'if', that's a big 'if' you have there............ you've already seen the originals before, so

why does it matter how you've seen them, or when?

it's not aimed at you, as a target audience..

you can't retroactively 'guess' that you wouldn't like it.

facts are facts, there's more money being made by star wars now, than there ever was.

i pointed out that the franchise is worth over 20 billion in another post... so who is all

that money coming from? not the old fans, that's for sure..

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well the DVDrips of quantum are out now..

in some regions......in case you were waiting..

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