negative1

ok, finished the second part of 300+ scenes

for vob3_2:

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00:00:03.795 0 91 p c3po fading in (start vob2 - part 2/2) total 29758

00:00:15.056 92 361 p luke in repair room

00:00:21.104 362 506 p luke checks out r2d2

00:00:26.484 507 635 p c3po in oil bath

00:00:48.965 636 1174 p luke fixing r2d2

00:00:56.806 1175 1362 p luke continues fixing r2d2

00:00:58.933 1363 1413 p c3po stands up

00:01:06.107 1414 1585 p luke stands up

00:01:08.818 1586 1650 p r2d2

00:01:15.825 1651 1818 p c3po and luke

00:01:24.793 1819 2033 p luke unjams r2d2

00:01:30.465 2034 2169 p leia hologram

00:01:32.550 2170 2219 p c3po and r2d2

00:01:33.677 2220 2246 p luke closeup

00:01:48.441 2247 2600 p leia hologram

00:01:50.068 2601 2639 p c3po and r2d2

00:01:55.155 2640 2737 p luke

00:01:57.617 2738 2820 p leia hologram

00:02:01.955 2821 2924 p c3po and r2d2

00:02:04.457 2925 2984 p luke watches leia hologram

00:02:06.376 2985 3030 p closeup r2d2

00:02:09.796 3031 3112 p r2d2 and c3po standing

00:02:12.674 3113 3181 p luke sitting

00:02:15.343 3182 3245 p leia hologram

00:02:17.554 3246 3298 p c3po and r2d2

00:02:20.432 3299 3367 p luke

00:02:24.436 3368 3463 i luke watches leia hologram

00:02:26.521 3464 3513 p c3po and r2d2

00:02:29.107 3514 3575 p c3po and r2d2

00:02:31.276 3576 3627 p c3po and r2d2

00:02:34.529 3628 3705 p luke

00:02:37.282 3706 3771 p c3po and r2d2

00:02:44.664 3772 3948 p luke stands up

00:02:47.792 3949 4023 p leia hologram

00:02:57.844 4024 4264 p luke stands up

00:03:00.764 4265 4334 p leia hologram

00:03:10.690 4335 4572 p luke unjams r2d2

00:03:15.195 4573 4680 p leia hologram disappears

00:03:17.322 4681 4731 p the grill on ground

00:03:21.117 4732 4822 p luke c3po and r2d2

00:03:26.414 4823 4949 p c3po and r2d2

00:03:30.877 4950 5056 p luke c3po and r2d2

00:03:33.797 5057 5126 p c3po and r2d2

00:03:37.300 5127 5210 p luke walks away

00:03:38.843 5211 5247 p r2d2 closeup

00:03:42.847 5248 5343 p c3po and r2d2

00:03:43.890 5344 5368 p r2d2 closeup

00:03:45.141 5369 5398 p c3po and r2d2

00:03:46.351 5399 5427 p r2d2 closeup

00:03:48.812 5428 5486 p c3po and r2d2

00:03:50.814 5487 5534 p r2d2 closeup

00:04:01.408 5535 5788 p aunt beru uncle owen and luke at table

00:04.06.996 5789 5922 p luke

00:04:08.039 5923 5947 p beru

00:04:10.250 5948 6000 p owen

00:04:12.919 6001 6064 p luke

00:04:13.878 6065 6087 p owen

00:04:17.215 6088 6167 p luke

00:04:19.092 6168 6212 p owen

00:04:20.552 6213 6247 p luke

00:04:26.266 6248 6384 p luke and blue milk

00:04:27.892 6385 6423 p beru

00:04:31.813 6424 6517 p luke and owen

00:04:36.818 6518 6637 p luke drinks blue milk

00:04:38.194 6638 6670 p luke talks

00:04:39.998 6671 6713 p owen talks

00:04:42.073 6714 6763 p luke

00:04:55.879 6764 7094 p owen speech

00:04:58.965 7095 7168 p luke and beru

00:05:00.884 7169 7214 p owen

00:05:05.221 7215 7318 p luke and beru

00:05:08.099 7319 7387 p owen

00:05:10.018 7388 7433 p luke

00:05:12.145 7434 7484 p luke and owen

00:05:14.272 7485 7535 p luke and owen

00:05:19.861 7536 7669 p owen

00:05:20.737 7670 7690 p beru

00:05:24.491 7691 7780 p luke

00:05:25.867 7781 7813 p owen

00:05:32.499 7814 7972 p luke leaves table

00:05:35.960 7973 8055 p beru

00:05:41.174 8056 8180 p owen

00:05:46.805 8181 8315 p beru

00:05:50.225 8316 8397 p owen

00:06:04.280 8398 8734 p binary sunset

00:06:07.784 8735 8818 p binary sunset luke closeup

00:06:12.288 8819 8926 p binary sunset closeup

00:06:26.094 8927 9257 p binary sunset luke closeup

00:06:36.312 9258 9502 p wipe to luke walking downstairs

00:06:36.813 9503 9514 p c3po in hiding

00:06:37.188 9515 9523 p luke zapping c3po

00:06:38.189 9524 9547 p c3po jumps

00:06:39.607 9548 9581 p luke

00:06:44.070 9582 9688 p c3po explains

00:06:46.072 9689 9736 p luke turns

00:06:47.741 9737 9776 p c3po

00:06:50.243 9777 9836 p luke runs

00:06:52.454 9837 9889 p c3po walks

00:06:54.080 9890 10076 p luke goes outside

00:06:54.080 10077 10227 p macrobinocular shot

00:07:09.137 10228 10289 p luke and c3po keep looking

00:07:11.848 10289 10354 p robot pulled by rope

00:07:15.769 10355 10448 p luke and c3po red sky

00:07:29.657 10449 10781 p luke and c3po (fadeout)

00:07:30.200 10782 10794 p blank frames

00:07:32.952 10795 10860 p overhead home shot

00:07:32.952 10861 11141 p owen looking for luke

00:08:03.108 11142 11583 p beru in kitchen

00:08:11.700 11584 11789 p luke and c3po landspeeder

00:08:19.582 11790 11978 p sandpeople

00:08:22.127 11979 12039 p sandpeople and banthas

00:08:26.172 12040 12136 p sandpeople jump on banthas

00:08:30.969 12137 12251 p banthas moving

00:08:40.186 12252 12472 p luke finds r2d2

00:08:41.271 12473 12498 p closeup r2d2

00:08:43.023 12499 12540 p closeup c3po

00:08:47.318 12541 12643 p luke talks to r2d2

00:08:49.738 12644 12701 p r2d2 senses danger

00:08:50.488 12702 12719 p luke looks up

00:08:50.989 12720 12731 p c3po talks

00:08:51.781 12732 12750 p r2d2 danger

00:08:52.490 12751 12767 p c3po looks around

00:08:53.450 12768 12790 p luke turns his head

00:08:54.159 12791 12807 p c3po turns head

00:08:54.701 12808 12820 p luke turns his head

00:08:58.121 12821 12902 p luke picks up rifle

00:09:01.332 12903 12979 p luke tells them to come look

00:09:05.253 12980 13073 p (middle wipe) binocular zoom

00:09:08.798 13074 13158 p luke looks through binoculars

00:09:12.761 13159 13253 p sandperson jumps up

00:09:13.094 13254 13261 p luke looks up

00:09:13.678 13262 13275 p sandperson raises arms

00:09:14.346 13276 13291 p c3po closeup

00:09:15.388 13292 13316 p c3po falls back

00:09:17.265 13317 13361 p luke gets attacked

00:09:18.141 13362 13382 p sandperson attacks

00:09:18.558 13383 13392 p sandperson attacks

00:09:19.184 13393 13407 p luke rolls

00:09:19.517 13408 13415 p sandperson raises arms

00:09:20.477 13416 13438 p luke dodges stick

00:09:22.729 13439 13492 p sandperson raises arms

00:09:26.649 13493 13586 p canyon view 1

00:09:30.320 13587 13674 p canyon view 2

00:09:31.863 13675 13711 p r2d2 peeps out from cave

00:09:38.119 13712 13861 p sandpeople drag luke

00:09:39.871 13862 13903 p r2d2 peeps out from cave

00:09:41.998 13904 13954 p luke on ground

00:09:44.626 13955 14017 p sandpeople take things from landspeeder

00:09:51.049 14018 14171 p r2d2 watches sandpeople

00:09:52.884 14172 14215 p r2d2 closeup

00:09:56.471 14216 14301 p sandpeople react

00:09:57.263 14302 14320 p r2d2 peeps out from cave

00:09:59.391 14321 14371 p ben kenobi waves arms

00:10:02.519 14372 14446 p sandpeople run away

00:10:03.728 14447 14475 p r2d2 peeps out from cave

00:10:05.188 14476 14510 p luke lies on ground

00:10:06.022 14511 14530 p r2d2 peeps out from cave

00:10:08.066 14531 14579 p ben kenobi approaches luke

00:10:10.819 14580 14645 p r2d2 peeps out from cave

00:10:15.031 14645 14746 p ben checks luke

00:10:16.574 14747 14783 p ben checks luke

00:10:18.910 14784 14839 p ben checks luke

00:10:21.079 14840 14891 p r2d2 watches ben

00:10:22.455 14892 14924 p r2d2 in cave

00:10:28.628 14925 15072 p ben sees r2d2

00:10:30.922 15073 15127 p r2d2 in cave

00:10:34.300 15128 15208 p ben tells r2d2 to come out

00:10:36.261 15209 15255 p r2d2 in cave

00:10:38.722 15256 15314 p ben helps luke

00:10:42.434 15315 15403 p luke wakes up

00:10:47.480 15404 15524 p ben helps luke

00:10:51.276 15525 15615 p ben helps luke

00:10:55.113 15616 15707 p luke recognizes ben

00:10:56.740 15708 15746 p luke and ben

00:10:58.825 15747 15796 p r2d2 comes closer

00:11:01.953 15797 15871 p ben and luke

00:11:03.997 15782 15920 p r2d2 comes closer

00:11:11.004 15920 16088 p luke sits on rock

00:11:12.964 16089 16135 p r2d2 watches

00:11:14.632 16136 16175 p ben closeup

00:11:16.843 16176 16228 p luke closeup

00:11:18.136 16229 16259 p r2d2 closeup

00:11:20.180 16260 16308 p luke talks to ben

00:11:27.896 16309 16493 p ben hears obi-wan

00:11:29.397 16494 16529 p luke looks up

00:11:39.282 16530 16766 p ben talking

00:11:41.701 16767 16824 p luke talking

00:11:46.498 16825 16939 p "ben, I hope so, he's me"

00:11:48.041 16940 16976 p luke talking

00:11:51.044 16977 17048 p ben talking

00:11:53.004 17049 17095 p r2d2 closeup

00:11:54.339 17095 17127 p luke talking

00:11:57.008 17128 17191 p ben talking

00:12:01.471 17192 17298 p group ben luke r2d2

00:12:04.224 17299 17364 p ben talking

00:12:05.975 17365 17406 p r2d2 closeup

00:12:08.728 17407 17472 p ben closeup

00:12:17.779 17473 17689 p ben and luke get up

00:12:19.114 17690 17721 p r2d2 shakes in alarm

00:12:21.991 17722 17790 p luke remember c3po

00:12:23.368 17791 17823 p r2d2 looks around

00:12:34.087 17824 18080 p luke and ben find c3po

00:12:35.463 18081 18113 p r2d2 closeup

00:12:45.765 18114 18360 p luke and ben help c3po

00:12:47.642 18361 18405 p r2d2 closeup

00:12:50.603 18406 18476 p luke and ben lift c3po

00:12:55.275 18477 18588 p (wipe from bottom up) landspeeder at bens hut

00:13:06.453 18589 18856 p luke fixes c3po

00:13:09.497 18857 18929 p luke and c3po

00:13:14.586 18930 19051 p ben talking

00:13:18.214 19052 19138 p luke and c3po

00:13:23.887 19139 19274 p ben talking

00:13:26.723 19275 19342 p luke and c3po

00:13:31.978 19343 19468 p ben talking

00:13:39.819 19469 19656 p ben opens chest up

00:13:42.572 19657 19722 p luke and c3po

00:13:49.120 19723 19879 p ben takes out lightsaber

00:13:53.833 19880 19992 p c3po turns off

00:14:02.300 19993 20195 p ben gives lightsaber to luke

00:14:20.860 20196 20640 p luke tries out lightsaber

00:14:25.490 20641 20751 p ben talking

00:14:30.412 20752 20869 p luke sits down

00:14:38.086 20870 21053 p ben talking

00:14:42.215 21054 21152 p luke talks

00:14:46.428 21153 21253 p ben talking

00:14:50.473 21254 21350 p luke talking

00:14:55.478 21351 21470 p ben talking

00:14:57.105 21471 21509 p luke talking

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so, whoever got it, did it for US$1200.

hope it was worth it!

the price doubled near the end,

but it met the reserve. the buyer

had one 280+ auctions before,

so they were in pretty good shape.

the next highest bidder was around US$930

or so..

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it seems the broken link error that's

impacting other people is browser based issues

and interpretations.

using :

------------------------------------

ie 6 - old links works

ie 7 - old links works

ie 8 - old links works

chrome - ver 10-16 doesn't work

firefox - not sure

opera - not sure

i think newer browsers are a little

more strict in the way they interpret

file links and headers.. so if doesn't work,

try another browser.

the only other issue, is that some browsers

break threads due to formatting.

i can't read this thread:

====================

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Best-source-for-the-Mos-Eisley-speeder-pass-by-shot/topic/13924/page/2/

past the post by ru.8  - #42

---------------------------

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Best-source-for-the-Mos-Eisley-speeder-pass-by-shot/post/568478/#TopicPost568478

it ends there in IE 6-8.

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i have a t-shirt with maxwells equations on it..

and at the bottom it says:

and God said ... "let there be light".

later

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writing short, truncated posts.

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captainsolo said:

How's everybody doing in this regard? Hopefully better.

That said, I'm not. I've been doing training for an at-home call servicing opportunity and been jerked around for the past three months. Studied, lost sleep, paid money I didn't need to, got equipment and am just being thrown into a mess of stuff.

Just insane. On top of this it really looks like my mom is about to be fired from her job. (It's been this way for over a year, constant threat of being fired/let go.) What the heck happened to the job market to make things so unbelievably cutthroat and dire? I know the economy is beyond terrible, I know everything tanked but to have everything become so completely cutthroat and impartial is insane.

sorry to hear about that.

yeah, my brother hasn't been working for the last

few months either. but its more of his own personal

choice also..

So I've started doing a whole other batch of job applications (my daily thing) while on the phone and chat with this stupid servicing company (who never answers anything). I'm even to the point of writing some more crazy last-ditch letters to places/people who I really admire in the hopes that I might get some kind of response. (not that I ever really do)

well, you have to keep trying.

i'm in a similar situation. so i know the feeling.

sometimes it seems like nothing is working.

but you have to keep trying or you'll never know.

 

I am just done with this whole thing. I did the film school thing and got chewed up by it. I know unemployment is what happens when you get out, but at this point I'm still just drifting about alone in the ocean.

How does one actually enjoy any part of being unemployed? I'm going nuts being stuck in one place with nothing to do.

well, you need to start working on all those

projects you used to wish you had time for.

that, or start keeping yourself busy and learn

new things to do.

i used to go back and forth with photography.

and lately, i hadn't done in quite awhile.

i met a girl that was a model, and of course,

my enjoyment of photography came back,

and we have a lot of fun doing shoots, and

other projects.

try something new, while you have the time.

when you get busy again, you might not have

the chance.

catch up on all those books you haven't read,

watch all those unwatched movies, catch up

on tv shows.. write a blog, draw some pictures,

paint, make some music... really, if you had any

hobbies before go back to them, or look into

new ones.. not everything is expensive or

requires money. 

good luck.

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more from the super 8 (4/18)

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the ratio of gout vs 35mm

is about 10%-15% cropped from these frames:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Cropping-the-Original-Trilogy-35mm-vs-dvd-gout/post/568604/#TopicPost568604

samples:

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here's some more ratios from the mos eisley scene:

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x

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Mrebo said:

captainsolo said:

I find this kinda depressing actually. Sure it sounds nice, but displays will get better and better and finally kill of theatrical distribution.

I don't think there is any reason to worry about that. Right now we can watch newly released movies off the internet if we want. That hasn't killed theatrical distribution. The trend of technology should force theaters to make the movie-going experience more meaningful. But it will always have the advantage of being a huge screen and an experience shared by a roomful of strange people :p

agreed... people will always go to movies.

just for the social experience. not necessarily

to view great art.

Most people aren't going to know or care about scope films. When I really really want to enjoy something in scope, I'll go out and buy a projector and fit an anamorphic lens. For cheaper than this thing.

Had to wiki "scope films." Sounds like they're already done for. Regardless of format, won't people care about films that were good? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here...

honestly, how many films be shot

in scope format? and how many

people have movies in that format?

there's not a whole lot of them...

When was the last time you even saw a great scope movie? Everything is shot in such a flat style nowadays that even scope has become lifeless. (Never thought I'd be saying that.)

I agree about the lifelessness, but isn't that a different topic?

Your concerns remind me of camera enthusiasts who worry about the innovations being made for point-and-shoots which feature very long zooms and focus that is completely adjustable in post-processing. They worry that these and other emerging features will at least crowd out the (d)slr market, if not make it obsolete. Technology can't be stopped, but I don't think any point-and-shoot or big wide screen (or CGI) is going to hurt substantive creations unless creators let it happen by failing to create worthwhile works.

agreed.

good comments..

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TServo2049 said:

What's with the black area on the upper right corner of the first frame? Surely that's not what the actual frame looks like, it's covering picture information that shows up in the GOUT.

yeah, don't worry about that.

these are just test shots, taken with

a camera that didn't have manual focus,

and we were doing quick captures..

we'll have much better scans and shots

a little bit later on. again these are just

reference shots to show the colors of the scenes.

not the quality or detail, which will be higher of course.

also, note in the later shots, a lot of those

areas are cropped off. i'll post that comparison

next.

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RU.08 said:

Nice pics -1. The cropping seems fairly consitant throughout (obviously with shot-by-shot ajustments for keeping the action center).

yeah, this is the standard practice.

about overscan:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

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There is no hard technical specification for overscan amounts for the low definition formats. Some say 5%, some say 10%, and the figure can be doubled for title safe, which needs more margin compared to action safe. The overscan amounts are specified for the high definition formats as specified above.

Different video and broadcast television systems require differing amounts of overscan. Most figures serve as recommendations or typical summaries, as the nature of overscan is to overcome a variable limitation in older technologies such as cathode ray tubes.

However the European Broadcasting Unionhas safe area recommendations regarding Television Production for 16:9 Widescreen.^[7]

The official BBC suggestions^[8] actually say 3.5% / 5% per side (see p21, p19). The following is a summary:

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Imperial Slug said:

I'm surprised how much more information there is on the sides of the 35mm scan compared to the GOUT shots. Just when you thought you've seen all there is to see of Star Wars...

you lose 5%-15% or more, due to the cropping in the theater.

and also due to the cropping for home versions.

viewing at home, and in the theater is very different.

there's a whole thread of cropping and images here:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Cropping-the-Original-Trilogy-35mm-vs-dvd-gout/topic/13945/

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this is the standard practice.

about overscan:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

--------------------------------------------------

----

There is no hard technical specification for overscan amounts for the low definition formats. Some say 5%, some say 10%, and the figure can be doubled for title safe, which needs more margin compared to action safe. The overscan amounts are specified for the high definition formats as specified above.

Different video and broadcast television systems require differing amounts of overscan. Most figures serve as recommendations or typical summaries, as the nature of overscan is to overcome a variable limitation in older technologies such as cathode ray tubes.

However the European Broadcasting Unionhas safe area recommendations regarding Television Production for 16:9 Widescreen.^[7]

The official BBC suggestions^[8] actually say 3.5% / 5% per side (see p21, p19). The following is a summary:

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and for movies:

==============

2.39:1

For a correct presentation, the area within the red rectangle (projector aperture of 0.825" by 0.690") is projected with a 2x horizontal unsqueeze onto a 2.39:1 sized screen.

Examples: Star Wars, October Sky.

by the way, good resources about projecting:

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1

http://hsvmovies.com/static_subpages/formats/anamorphic_format.html

2

http://hsvmovies.com/static_subpages/formats/aspect.html

3

http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/lbx.htm

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bkev said:

-1 wasn't the whole point of the blog so that this kind of stuff would be privatized and it could not be traced back to you?  Your posting all sorts of images recently goes against your previous habit of deleting ALL YOUR POSTS.

 there are tons of scans of frames.

it's not really an issue.

if people need references. like moth3r requested this.

here it is.

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here's a better comparison of the shots

gout on the top, frame below:

in our shots, the lighting might be off,

there's a lot of grain, and there is no

color correction...

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from another super 8mm on ebay:

scene 1 of 18

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scene 2/18

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mindofone said:

Here's the original ESB 21 in. x 29 ½ in. Kodalith, for reference.

 

here's our version of it:

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more mos eisely testshots..

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Best-source-for-the-Mos-Eisley-speeder-pass-by-shot/post/568398/#TopicPost568398

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again, a few more samples ..

still working on it...

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captainsolo said:

I find this kinda depressing actually. Sure it sounds nice, but displays will get better and better and finally kill of theatrical distribution.

Most people aren't going to know or care about scope films. When I really really want to enjoy something in scope, I'll go out and buy a projector and fit an anamorphic lens. For cheaper than this thing.

When was the last time you even saw a great scope movie? Everything is shot in such a flat style nowadays that even scope has become lifeless. (Never thought I'd be saying that.)

 i doubt too many people

will buy tv's like this.

i don't think it's that big of an issue.

you're right, more people buy projectors, which

can also do this. but for people like me that use

it as a computer monitor, or leave it on all day,

it's better to have a dedictated tv.

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negative1 said:

here's some pictures from a super8 (not derann)

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later

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 here's our darker version of the

frame on the left:

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zombie84 said:

Well, technically I am not supposed to be posting this right now. There may be some modifications in the days to come. This isn't meant to be public, so keep it under your hats for now, but I thought people might appreciate some good news for once.

http://www.savestarwars.com/loc.html

 awesome!

great news..

and very good reporting..

enjoyed reading the first hand account,

and all the work being done.

it's good to know it will be

preserved digitally for future generations.

and for the public record.

well done, and congratulations

on the story.

look forward to reading and hearing

about any new developments.

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here's some pictures from a super8 (not derann)

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TV's Frink said:

It makes zero sense because no one should think about it like that.

oops.. should have added:

and i still have that problem in fullscreen.

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TV's Frink said:

It makes zero sense because no one should think about it like that.

give me a better editor.

and i wouldn't have this problem.

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