negative1

here's a few attempts again,

at cleaning up some of the

red tint from the second part

of the clip:

version 0:

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https://vimeo.com/46981594

version 1:

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https://vimeo.com/46981616

pw: OT

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lucasdroid said:

kitt1987 said:

After anonymously reading the forum the last few weeks I finally decided to create an account and applaud you for the effort in bringing Star Wars back to the fans in hi def.  I read that ESB is already preserved, is there another site or index where we can follow the progress, if any, involved in that film?

Can you call this a preservation?  I think this is great but a real preservation needs to be made.  I guess we will not see that until Mr. Lucas passes away though.

Taking a photo right off the film with the lcd light sounds smart.  It would probably avoid losing quality over projecting the film onto ground glass like a real optical printer would.  This should produce some interesting results but nothing like a real preservation.  Especially since the source materials have to be a mess.  This is a slight step above the 16mm work being done. 

kitt1987 said:

After anonymously reading the forum the last few weeks I finally decided to create an account and applaud you for the effort in bringing Star Wars back to the fans in hi def.  I read that ESB is already preserved, is there another site or index where we can follow the progress, if any, involved in that film?

all of that work was chronicled 

from about aug 2011 to feb 2012

at a private blog.

it has been archived. and will be

released in the future when the

restoration is done. i might post

some previews when we're done

with star wars.

we are currently reworking some

of the parts with damage, and expect

it to be complete in the next year or

so. it's about 70-80% watchable

right now, but the last parts are

going to take awhile to get done right.

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got around to watching this recently..

it's a very good edit.

but i still like the first one a lot more.

this one seems more serious, and even though

it includes a lot more deleted footage. it's very

uneven. the prequel scenes and SE look too clean, and

stick out...if all the footage was a little rougher

it wouldn't have been as uneven. our 35mm raw

version (and the pink one) would be great in

using that footage to replace all yours (someday).

also there was a bit of return of jedi stuck in there at the end.

i think if this was split back into 2 parts, and spread

out (actually i might split it up myself), it wouldn't

have felt too long for me... the edits were pretty

creative, and the way some of the characters were

dealt with seemed good, but overall, you were locked

into a pretty fixed story, so you had to do what you

could.

i wish there were more clips from other movies,

and more over the top explosions, shootings, blood etc.

to make it more of a grindhouse version.

well, you're done with star wars series now, but who

knows? maybe you'll do something with the prequels

like this. i liked all your projects with the dusty, b+w versions

too..

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skyjedi2005 said:

Nevermind.

ok, no problem.

we hope to have a nicely restored version

combined with what's already available.

it might not exactly overlap with GOUT,

but it will be pretty close.

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we'll post the 2nd and 3rd reels

for preview also.. at some point.

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well, i listened to the first half of it

sounds pretty good to me.

however, i forgot about the han shooting greedo

scene, that is in english, spliced into it..

so we will have to replace that part

with an equivalent one


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AntcuFaalb said:

here's a clarification of the

machine and setup:

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I don't follow this thread often, but I do have a question. Are you snapping each picture by hand or is it automated somehow?

automated



video



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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Making-our-own-35mm-preservation-my-crazy-proposal/post/584555/#TopicPost584555



in trailer

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Making-our-own-35mm-preservation-my-crazy-proposal/post/584009/#TopicPost584009




reference

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Making-our-own-35mm-preservation-my-crazy-proposal/post/584561/#TopicPost584561

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Making-our-own-35mm-preservation-my-crazy-proposal/post/584122/#TopicPost584122

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Making-our-own-35mm-preservation-my-crazy-proposal/post/584158/#TopicPost584158








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red5-626 said:

Yes I will probably be getting the SD DVD

Actually the BD would not be any good to me now as

I have nothing to play it on. But I am thinking of the Future.

 

you will have to convert the DL one down to a SD

for that. at least dual layer disks aren't that expensive.

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more examples of the 35mm trailer,

some are kind of blurry:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/588937/#TopicPost588937

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here's some more examples

of the trailer, some are kind

of blurry though:

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red5-626 said:

Mainly trying to get an idea of what is possible.
And NO I do not have a bluray burner.
And no I can't download it all at once. .
Just Downloading 1 of Harmy's SD DVD’s was a challenge.

Which  is why I like physical media.
I could go to a store and buy 5 blu rays   faster than I can download one SD video.

Now HOW IS THAT CONVENIENT ?

you need to find someone with a burner,

or a fast connection.. or someone you

can trade with to make a copy...

burner's aren't that expensive nowadays,

and if you aren't watching it in HD, then

the DVD version should be good enough.

 the MP4/AVI versions will be very

manageable.. i've been watching 1080p/720p

and 480p versions (along with a 1024x576) versions

of the various reels. we have them in WMV, AVI, and

other formats for testing.. even the low resolution

ones look better than the GOUT. the higher the

resolution the sharper the image of course.

some sample filesizes/dimensions below

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its up to you to figure out what works best for you.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

Man,

I would love to have HD captures of the various trailers.

red5-626 said:

 

 So the largest file would be a 25G bluray disc?

Just wandering if you broke the movie up into reels,

could you put each reel on 1

Standard 1 Layer DVD?

And have 6 reels, on 6 discs

 

you could split any file up to make data

discs on dvd, but why would you want to?

unless you don't have a bluray burner, or

can't download it all at once..

if space is an issue, it would be better to get

the other downconversions. it's too unwieldy

having 6 parts for one movie, nobody would

want to switch them every 20 minutes. even

if it was 3 dual layer 9G ones, it would still be

inconvenient.

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dug up some scans of

the 1976 trailer, that i had before.

but haven't posted them...

these are untouched

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/588873/#TopicPost588873

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here are some stills scanned from

the original 1976 trailer, color

has NOT been adjusted:

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i'll give it a shot.. (thumbnails that is).

you're the first person to request them.

the problem is no one wants to click on

a ton of thumbnails either.

i actually like seeing the full screenshots

if i had the bandwidth.

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we are going with the following for our project:

1) full frame MKV 1920x1080 file that can fit on a 25G bluray disc

  (for those with digital projectors)

2) 1080p bluray compatible files / letterboxed - 25G files

3) DVD-9 files for DVD-DL - 9G (maybe a DVD-5)

4) MP4/avi files - 2-5 G

there will be no large scale physical disk distribution,

except for the private workprints, and the initial seeding.

all of it will be usenet, torrent, and lastly file locker shared.

we will have a few minimal menus, that's it,

with a few soundtrack choices also. we are using commercial

consumer software for the final product. no custom settings,

except to max out the video bitrate, and fit 3 soundtracks

on the discs.

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here's a clarification of the

machine and setup:

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VideoPhonic said:

 

-1, are you making use of any of the red version for your final version, or only for reference and color tinkering? curious.

 

not from the test reel. that's just for playing around with.

the other 5 reels we have, might have some frames that have

less grain than the LPP, so we might use some of that.

jero32 said:

I Thought he was basicly taking a picture of the projection directly. (so not bounced off a screen)

yes, the video and pictures of the setup show that we have the camera

directly mounted to take pictures directly through the lens off the lcd

illuminated film.

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red5-626 said:

Found this video.
Is the machine any thing like this .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFFzF_d1Sd4&feature=related

see 4:26

not really,

there's a dukane filmstrip project on youtube with

a record player. it's more like that.

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here's version 0 of trying to recolor the

first clip of the trash compactor..

pretty rough..

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https://vimeo.com/46980344

and here's an improved version 1,

but there's still a reddish tint to it:

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https://vimeo.com/46980372

password : OT

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well, i guess it's not THAT short of a sample,

but the first reel, just for comparison with

the mono one...

maybe someone can tell if it's the original

dub or not?

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http://soundcloud.com/negative1/sw-spanish-r1

excelente!

muchas gracias.

más tarde

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jero32 said:

 

What photoshop/other program options do you typically use to correct the red colour? In gimp the "curves" option (under colors etc) seems to work, but I can't get all the red out sometimes.

edit: using tint and saturation seems to work a little but it might've taken out a bit too much color.

 

adobe premiere a little bit (for me), along with virtual dub..

but we mostly using the professional AVID suite.

here are 2 examples of the early attempts to

correct the red tint:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/cleaning-up-dirty-frames-for-scenes/post/588725/#TopicPost588725

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here's an early preview of our reel 1,

of course we are still processing it in

a higher bitrate.. but you get the idea..

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http://soundcloud.com/negative1/star-wars-mono-reel-1-raw

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