mumbles_

after viewing that clip i got to thinking... wouldn't the entire bespin mining colony be shot to crap with lasers? do lasers lose intensity the further they travel? or do they just keep going and going? hmmm, i guess i should read The Physics of the Impossible by Michio Kaku.

so i guess what i'm wondering is, shouldn't there be burn marks all over the place? just one of those weird thoughts.

EDIT: I think I found my answer. duh...

"Properties of Laser Light Laser light has three unique properties. First, it is collimated which means it travels in a single direction with very little divergence even over long distances Ordinary light waves spread and lose intensity quickly.
Second, laser light is monochromatic, consisting of one color or a narrow range of colors . Ordinary light has a much wider range of wavelengths or colors."

Amazing job on the encoding for the 720p xvid trailer Adywan! :) I never knew my old XBOX could play HD xvid's at 720p in XBMC. just beautiful!

Monroville said:

mumbles_ said:

Vaderios:

Then again, some lighting could be added to the hallway, or some Ridley Scott lighting effects.

 

Not exactly sure what you mean by Ridley Scott lighting (lack of lighting? lol) but I think this is a great idea, add some sort of flickering light (or would that be too ghetto?) to give some realism (ex. in the hangar bays) when it's an obvious matte. There is a scene in ROTJ which I had in mind.

Like how in BLADE RUNNER or his earlier films where he used smoke so as to shine light through it to create nice beams of light coming into the room.  A good example would be the Leon interrogation in the beginning of BR.

 

aaah yes. that was excellent... similar to some of the James Cameron 'laser' lighting in Terminator and the beginning of Aliens with the scanning machine. I'm down for that if it's pulled off right.

Jedi Dark Knight said:

Darth Piccolo said:

hey ady, ever considered adding the lightsaber interative lightinglike vaderios example

 

 This is so cool! I have seen other saber-on-face effects for luke in Cloud City but this one really sells it! As always Adywan will give the final word but this truly lives up to the hype....amazing

yeah I gotta stick my neck out and say this is awesome. the best part about this effect is that it's the first time you will actually see a reflection considering the other few times you see the saber activated it's well lit, so there was clearly not as much need for it. i'm interested to see the light saber in conjunction with vader's glossy helmet, etc. purely great.

Vaderios:

Then again, some lighting could be added to the hallway, or some Ridley Scott lighting effects.

Not exactly sure what you mean by Ridley Scott lighting (lack of lighting? lol) but I think this is a great idea, add some sort of flickering light (or would that be too ghetto?) to give some realism (ex. in the hangar bays) when it's an obvious matte. There is a scene in ROTJ which I had in mind.

porkinsred6 said:

Hey guys,

  several pages ago there was a discussion about the duel in the carbon chamber scene.  Right before luke falls in, vader does a cheesy lightsaber swipe, I guess to get luke to accidentally fall in the hole... I too never liked that scene so I came up with a possible solution: what if vader does a "force push"?  I know Ady doesn't want to use prequel stuff in the originals but I think it really adds something to the fight.  I don't like that luke is so stupid he doesn't realize he's gonna fall in.  I also think vader is showing how superior he is.  The force push would also occur in the middle of a bunch of other force powers (super jump, grabbing a lightsaber from across the room) so it flows well. I made a really crude mock up video where I cut out the swipe and added a really bad photoshop still with force push sound effect.  (I apologize for the really bad quality of the edit I've never done one before)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZOO7J0YM

let me know what you think...

 

-porkinsred6

yeah I can't say that that would work. I think Luke falling into the carbonite chamber is his due to his lack of experience. as well, he needs to mind his surroundings... or he prepares to fall in and do so just to let vader think he has the upper hand. either way, it's the swipe that Vader takes that looks goofy imo. If he's not trying to kill him then ok, but it's just so... kaiju.

- I noticed a continuity error with Luke's hand and the lightsaber at 1:40:39 and in 1:40:41 and cutting back to 1:40:44 (using the 97' HD theatrical rip Adywan made as reference). He places his hands on his hips (on what might be called an 'establishing shot') at 1:40:41 and then when it cuts back he has his hand back on his lightsaber. the easiest way to explain it is right when he turns on his lightsaber to battle Vader at the end of the film. I doubt there's much we can do about that. just seems strange.

- also, when Vader jumps down after luke says "you'll find i'm full of surprises" the floor looks like it's about to break. cheap plastic flooring? any way to fix that?

- when Vader swipes his lightsaber at Luke (so that he falls into the carbonite chamber) it looks a lot like he's trying to miss. i wonder if this is intentional or not. i would imagine it was because i suppose Vader doesn't want him dead. but it just reminds me of a 50's horror movie where they're stumbling around trying to make it look as if they're going to hurt them but the actors don't actually want to harm each other (i.e. holding back).

could I maybe be included in the credits as 'mumbles' (without the underscore) even if for voting to keep boba fett's original voice? :) i could always try and find more stuff to suggest but i don't want to step on adywan's toes.

EDIT: I see my screen name in there. thanks so much! :) I wouldn't mind giving my full name but who wants to read some giant name with a nickname in the middle? ;)

doubleofive said:

AuggieBenDoggie said:

I think this is getting to a point to where things are getting over analyzed. Some of the things that are getting pointed out have never ever bothered me, like the situation mentioned above with General Veers and Vader. No offense to you guys, it's just seems like your suggesting edits that are really unnecessary and make no sense. I think that alterations would be warranted if there is direct flaw with the FX or part of the story itself. The General Veers/ Vader scene mentioned above is not flawed technically or story wise, it was filmed that way.

No offense to you guys, but this is getting ridiculous.

I didn't really suggest I wanted it to be fixed, I was just going off topic to point out how funny I found it.

yeah I can't see why we would fix that to begin with. it's great. you can practically see the beads of sweat off General Veer's brow in that scene. I wonder if that's the closest another guy got to Vader. he must have a personal space bubble outside of his literal ...space ...bubble (meditation chamber)

Hot Rod: as for Han's hair, I'm gonna take a stab at it with the scene in the space worm's stomach where he's blasting the Mynocks. After the second one frightens them there is a shot where he looks to have considerably less hair (albeit while wearing the mask) than he does in other shots.

doubleofive said:

I've always thought how funny it is immediately after that line.

"Set your course for the Hoth System. GENERAL VEERS! Prepare your men."

The way he spins around to find Veers standing right next to him is funny. If Vader had spun around pointing at Veers thinking he was further away, he would have knocked him right over!

But that just might be me...

no you're not the only one. I still find that part HILARIOUS... it must have been hard for Vader to see him with that helmet. just as much as the automated targeting computers and how close they come to Wedge's face in A New Hope. i always imagine it hitting him in the face. it's the little things...

Galvatron said:

Looks perfect! Here's a pic from the model for comparison...

that reminds me, I still have to paint mine... it's sitting right next to me. haven't touched it in over a decade.