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- Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/429902/action/topic#429902
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Ok, you will get a pm soon...
Ok, you will get a pm soon...
dark_jedi, I'm pretty sure that I have the actual 2nd '93 ANH PCM audiofile that you seek in wav format, if you want me to upload it for you, let me know. The wave file is named: 01_DC48DVD & have a Moth3r.SFV file included.
If I remember correctly, it has suddenly very low dialogue when the tractor beam pulling the Falcon in to the Death Star, something that is not apparent on hairy_hen's recreation or Gout audio.
The one sequence that sticks out the most to me in the photos, is this one:
Look how incredibly good the lightsaber visual effect look in this sequence! Where it just looks cheaply animated in the Gout footage due to the bad transfer and just plain awful and one-dimensional in the recomposited SE, it here looks like an effect that must have had a certain wow factor in the audience back in '77, so far ahead of its time...
zombie84 said:
For now though I need a bit of fact-checking here since this one is basically a history of OT.com.
http://savestarwars.com/fanpreservations.html
I'm sure there's misreported info in there, was a lot of stuff to touch upon and juggle; the page is also still unfinished. Also, Dark_Jedi's new release I have not yet seen, but I felt confident enough to include it; I'll make any needed modifications upon release.
A few corrections:
Moth3r's "Pwnage" was done through an Avisynth script (that I believe was developed by himself) and released long before g-force had developed his stabilization script and uses an earlier anti-aliasing filter that has since been updated.
The current g-force script that dark_jedi's forthcoming versions uses, have no increased saturation this time. It's only the black level and hue that is tweaked a little to remove the pink tint. And as far as I know, some of the jaggies in the Gout cannot be removed completely with these anti-aliasing filters. They are just reduced and sometimes they even introduces other artifacts in the picture.
I agree with you on this, Zombie. This is definitely one of the best references we got, it's just that almost all those photos sports a subtle green tint, not just the Death Star, it's even on the Blockade Runner interior shots. But as I've already said, I agree that the walls on the Death Star shouldn't be neutral gray, I actually don't know where this thought comes from, to me they have always looked like they had different shades of blu/green in them, are the walls not like that, even in the gout? I can see that the actual picture you posted is washed out gray, but is it really like that throughout the film?
Keep up the great job on the site zombie, I like it very much so far, kind of like a good sister-site to your Secret history of SW. Your short but sweet Don't rock the boat article is also well written, it's very sad but true, love the ending paragraph of it.
Yes, the close-up of the suns is even red in the '97SE when the contrast is corrected and also in the rare footage that appear in the documentary magic & the mystery, so I'm pretty sure of it right now.
The 1993 and '95 LD transfers aren't anamorphic, but the footage on this disc are true anamorphic.
I'm sorry, ABC. I don't have the '04 disc available at the moment, my brother has borrowed it, so you'll have to get someone else to check it for you, if you cannot wait.
Puggo's 16mm restoration
The blu-ray specifications is the best news I've read in a very long time, fantastic!! I never thought this would happen. Thank you Francis Ford Coppola! I love you man!
It's an interesting and original concept, the sample look kinda cool in black & white, I'm not a big fan of isolated scores on DVD but if you're planning to have the score as originally written for the film, I'm all for it.
ABC, I can check that for you, I've never heard that the rare version should be on the '04 DVD menu, if that's the case it's really cool.
Ok, that's great.
I'm glad you like them, Chainsaw, even though they aren't as close to the real deal as the Gout ones I did.
Ok, dark_jedi, I double checked them and I couldn't find anything wrong in the timings this time. So, I'm done with this. But to me the audio seems a little out of sync in this clip, I'm not sure though.
Darth Mallwalker said:
Still watch your King Diamond videos once in while. Great fun.
Didn't you have KD avatar once upon a time?
If it's me you're talking to, no. This is my first avatar ever, served by ABC on a silver plate, what do you think ABC? does it fit my personality. ;)
It was "Jabba's put a price on your head so large..." that was off in the timing, I've sent the corrected script, d_j.
I'm on it d_j, I'll PM you soon...
Thanks ABC, I think one of them should fit me. ;)
Thanks for posting, the subs do look ok I guess, I was a little worried there. I hadn't actually seen them in motion yet. ;) The image look great unsquished and the audio is in perfect sync, good job!
Is it just me or does the line "every bounty hunter in the galaxy will be looking for you" look a little off in the timing? I don't know, maybe I'm just used to how it is in the original cut. I did use the LD timings though... oh well, done is done I guess.
I forgot to mention a minor thing, I don't know if it's a pop/click from your editing or if it's just some leftover from Luke's supposed spitting sound but it's audible. It's a very small thing, you won't notice it if you don't know about it. If you really love that spitting sound however and want it restored :) I guess it's very easy to reinsert it into the regular 2.0 version. ;)
Great to hear that it's corrected.
xhonzi said:
Is 'sutitles' an alternative spelling for 'subtitle'? ;)
Maybe, maybe not. I guess we'll never find out. ;)
Wookiee is spelled with only one e in the theatrical program from '77 but it could of course have been typed wrong, I know Jabba the Hutt was spelled with one t sometimes before Return of the Jedi though. Edit: seems I wasn't quick enough. ;)
captainsolo said:
Great news. Hard to believe it's been 13 years since these were presented correctly.
Yes, it's great of dark_jedi to make these versions available in better quality, but don't get your hopes up too high, there's still problems with these transfers but I'm looking forward to finally see this in NTSC with the real 5.1 audio mix and to have the squished image corrected. So for that, thank you dark_jedi! I must also tell you that I wasn't able to find the correct font for the hard-coded subs. So, I went with the same one I used on d_j new Gout version. But I tried to make them as good as I possibly could.
Interesting find about the glitch in the Empire PCM, have to check mine and d_j I'm definitely interested to have the different audiotracks uncompressed.
Darth Mallwalker said:
'superstar destroyer' doesn't quite work
;) I think the "official spelling" now is, Super Star Destroyer. I actually think it should be Super Stardestroyer. I looked around and saw that wookieepedia says that the spelling Stardestroyer is wrong in the DVD subs, in my mind it's correct, it is just a destroyer like the real ones used in WWI & II but among the stars, not something that destroy stars. You don't type Sandcrawler Sand Crawler, Landspeeder Land Speeder and Starship Star Ship. Also the first time I saw Sandpeople spelled Sand People was around '97 on the soundtrack CD.