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i have 10 and I never had a problem with just about any HD file.

Sepharih said:

Hello all.  Long time lurker.  Well, with the upcoming blu-ray release of Star Wars coming out I've decided to enter the discussion to get some ideas for my own personal saga cut I've wanted to do for some time.

 

So......this is definately a bit of a radical idea, but I wanted to see what other people thought of it.  There have been a lot of attempts to try and reedit the obi-wan and vader duel into something more like the energetic and flahsier fights of the PT....but in the end reediting can only get you so far because of the limits of the choreography.

Has anyone ever thought, maybe, about just cutting the duel entirely?  Within the context of the original trilogy or the film on its own this would be almost blasphemous...but within the context of all six movies, I wonder if it would actually be more effective.

Almost any lightsaber fight that could have been done or redone wouldn't have the same drama or emotional impact as the fight from episode 3 anyway, and perhaps it says more about obi-wan's experience and how much he's learned, and adds more shock, by him not dueling at all.

The way i see it working is this:

Obi-wan see's vader, who walks towards him, lightsaber not ignited.

VADER: "I've been Waiting for you obi-wan....".....etc. etc.

OBI-WAN: "You can't win.  If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

TheIR sabers ignite and the stormtroopers move in to watch, luke and the others sneak around to get the falcon.  Vader and Obi-wan remain poised....as if waiting for the other to strike.  Luke see's Obi-wan, who in turn see's luke.  Vader moves in to make the first strike, begining the fight.........and obi-wan makes no attempt to parry, choosing instead to meditate.

Just a thought.....what say you all?

At first I thought this idea was stupid no offense, but the more I contemplated it, it sounded more interesting to me. Is it wrong to cut the majority of the duel? If you can cut it in such a way where you still keep those lines, then you still maintain the emotion of the two meeting again... The more I think about this, it actually could make more sense... He's come to the understanding that fighting Vader himself isn't the answer. That's why he says what he says. Why fight at all if you're going to give yourself for the greater good. It could be said, and is probably true that he was waiting for the right moment.. The moment being when he knew Luke and the others were back on the ship...But why not cut to the chase?

I have to think about this.... With your permission, this might show up on my edit.

What version of Vegas?

TV's Frink said:

I do still have the avi uploaded, so if anyone else is interested, PM me.

Soooo not interested. Besides if I wanted to watch sub-par crap, I'd buy the Star Wars Blurays....Ooooooo.

Akwat Kbrana said:

It's always amused me to note that, in general, the most egotistical people have the least reason to be so. I followed Prologue fairly closely prior to its release, and downloaded/watched it shortly thereafter. I found the experience to be more painful and cringe-worthy than sitting through the official PT itself.

As someone else mentioned, his visuals are fairly impressive, and one or two sequences are laudable. But the overall editing job is so poorly done, the entire thing just feels hacked-up and confusing. My wife (who isn't a hardcore Star Wars fan) sat through it with me, and couldn't follow the plot to save her life. We were especially taken aback by the train-wreck of an ending. It's like AntiMatter went so far with the project, decided "eh...that's good enough," and just released it unfinished.

The really hilarious part is that he doesn't even accomplish what he set out to do. One of the major objectives of this fanedit was to restore "saga secrecy," i.e. preserving Vader's secret identity. In the beginning of the edit, this purpose is served by deleting any reference to "Anakin" when Vader's dirty ROTS deeds are referred to. When he gets to the end of his edit (the Palpy-Mace-Anakin confrontation) AntiMatter is clearly out of ideas, so he slaps a two-second shot of Dooku showing up unexpectedly, and then ends the edit there, with no dénouement or closing sequence or anything, just a bad montage of a few random ROTS scenes. He explained on his site something to the effect of "now when you watch the OT, there's a 50-50 chance that Vader is either Anakin or Dooku." Which really doesn't make any sense at all. Even ignoring Dooku's advanced age in ROTS, the fact that he retained all the ROTS footage showing Obi-Wan and Padme discussing Anakin's (some unnamed person's) youngling killing spree and expressing disbelief/concern for Anakin (the mysterious stranger), pretty much rules out any reasonable person from concluding that Dooku did it (whom Obi-Wan and Padme neither know particular well nor care for).

In short: it's a garbled mess. It's kinda laughable that AntiMatter deemed it worthy for public release when it was obviously a rough draft, and a poor one at that; it's pathetic that the sycophants on his website rate it so glowingly; but it's just downright sad that the place has decided to define itself as an juvenile, anti-OT.com, anti-FE.org, den of self-congratulatory wankers.

I was the one who said all that about his edit. I agree with every single point you make. It's like Lucas took to fan editing..... Oh wait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27RVJJfny4I

SpenceEdit said:

I think we lose a little that way. As far as storytelling goes, we gotta get their faces up there pretty quick. I know we don't meet Luke/Han/Ben for a while in ANH, but at least we get Leia-3PO-R2. If the movie goes on too long without a protagonist, people are going to lose interest.

You may be right... I'm still curious....

The Concierge said:

Y'know, I have to chime in here: As far as I remember, Ben's costume originally was designed to be reminiscent of a samurai's garb, ie, a warrior's. The outer robe is fairly generic (the jedi being rather humble in most regards), suited, I think to disguise...notice Ben is always very well-wrapped in public. In short, Obi-wan's costume was always meant to be his Jedi outfit!

I simply don't agree. And frankly, it would be stupid for Obi-Wan who is supposed to be in hiding to wear his very obvious Jedi robe and get sniped by Boba Fett. It's stupid. Of course, then you have to explain why they brought Luke to the very planet Anakin was from, and the very house that Anakin visited where he knows the names of everyone who lives there. It's a lot of stupid.

Supposedly in AE cs5 you have predictive masks, but I feel like I would have heard people going ape on here if it worked like we all hoped. But I have yet to try it for myself as I don't have a 64 bit system. Long story short, I don't believe there is a shortcut for what you're proposing.

Sounds great. Good to have you back, Spence.

haha. Now I want to cut it to see if it works for myself.  =)

Sorry I kinda made it sound like you see them on the federation ship... No Jedi seen until they jump off the overpass....

My other thought was a stronger reason for the federation... Here's the kicker... We don't know why they are invading until the end when the republic has come to arrest the neimodians, and then they discover what they were after all along. Clones. You could have a shot at the end where Palpatine walks into the clone chamber where they have perfected the technology.

Then in Ep. 2 you could stae via crawl that the republic relocated the clone tech to a more fortified world that could protect it from those who would exploit, while all the while it's in the hands of the enemy.

TheoOdo said:

Erikstormtrooper said:

Also, I think the beginning of the movie needs to happen much faster. It's too slow as is. What about starting the movie right off with the invasion of Naboo?

In the radical prequel edit thread, I seem to remember seeing a YouTube video in which the whole opening sequence is sped up nicely.

The Republic ship lands in the docking bay, one of the Neimodians orders the controller to fire on it, we cut back to the docking bay to see the ship get blown up, a group of droids approach a shut door, there's a beat and the doors open revealing a room full of smoke, the Jedi leap out of the smoke and attack the droids, we cut back to the control room and the Viceroy is informed that the Jedi escaped the blast. The battle then proceeds as normal until the Jedi stowaway.

That way, we cut through all scenes of the Jedi waiting around and drinking tea, then it's straight to the invasion sequence.

I was about to suggest the exact same thing only even more extreme. I thought it would be cool if you never see the Jedi in the sequence. All this crap is going down, and you know it's the two Jedi, but you never see them until they release the droidikas. (spelling?) They then lose the Jedi and have to face the shadowy mystery figure who is pulling the strings. We do NOT see the Jedi until they jump down from the overpass, and we are then introduced to our two heroes. To me a much greater intro in a very Indiana Jones reveal sorta way. I really think it could be done, and it forces the scene to move forward.

Bingowings said:

ben_danger said:

see this is what i mean about 70's style facial hair missing in the PT.

LOOK HOW AWESOME THIS LOOKS NOW!

I'd hate to be the person to hand paint this face fuzz and change the outfits but George...Ben in ANH was in disguise, Luke in ROTJ wasn't :

I agree with this. Another Lucas fubar. Why most all Jedi dress just like Obi-Wan did in ANH is ridiculous... Those were supposed to be typical Tattooine clothes... Owen wore them too! I always thought the Jedi would have an array of clothes. Or like you said, more like Luke was dressed in ROTJ. But as was also said, it would be difficult to recolor every robe, frame by frame.

I haven't seen Cutter in here lately. Hope everything is ok.

SpenceEdit said:

I'm currently in preproduction for an independant film I'm making which is sucking up most of my editing free time. I have pretty much completed my TPM section, which does not have a gungan in sight.

Good to see that the rumors of your death were greatly exaggerated. Great new on the indie feature. You should PM me. =)

greenpenguino said:

TV's Frink said:

Vflix's articles are really fun reads.

http://digital-fanedits.com/index.php/Reviews/Star-Trek-TMP-Warp-Re-Edit.html

Star Trek: TMP Warp Re-Edit

Written by VFlix

Monday, 29 March 2010

I recently had the privilege of viewing the second project by our very own editing master, Anti-Matter. I would like to propose that this technically is his first fan-edit because it comes on the heels of what is arguably the boldest editing endeavor ever to be conceived, executed and then successfully delivered to the fanedit community. His Star Wars Prologue was, in my thinking, more an opus than an edit.

I saw that edit a while back.

 

It was Shit.

He's fairly okay with visuals, but is really choppy when it comes to sound editing.

That mirrors some of my impressions of his prologue edit. Effects-wise, it was cool, but the rest seemed all slapped together. I wish someone would post the ending on youtube... It would spawn it's own thread all by itself.

TV's Frink said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy2GIv9N5qI

Big thanks to greenpenguino for coming up with the concept and creating the video game graphics.

Loving it!

Bingowings said:

Mousse

not Mouse.

Not moose?

TV's Frink said:

Are you almost done with this mouse gag?

?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kut_Whpdi2g

adywan said:

L8wrtr said:

TV's Frink said:

I can't link to it anymore, but a while back they removed SW:R from their database because he was profiting from it by requesting donations.

Yeah.

And I see what you did there, Bingo.  I wish I could deny it. ;-)

Yeah, there was something about fanedit and get a free hard drive, software blah blah blah.. 

Yeh, it was this thread:

http://digital-fanedits.com/index.php/Forum/Star-Wars/135-quotStar-Wars-Revisitedquot-removed-for-violating-financial-conduct/

It had nothing to do with me receiving donations at all. Anti-Splatter had a problem with me just because i questioned him when he deleted his posts. He doesn't like anyone questioning him because he thinks he is the god of all fan editors. He probably thinks he even invented the genre. You only have to look at that site to see how much people have to kiss his ass to have the "privilege" of not getting banned.  Dare to give a bad review of one of his edits and you're out of there. Most of the edits reviewed there are his.  Their membership isn't exactly growing at a decent rate now is it.

Ady, that's not fair... They have a steady stream of 6 posters now.

Thanks. I'll think about it. Right now I'm afraid that would look very artificial. Mainly because I've tried similar things and it just feels forced. It looks like a great idea on paper, but doesn't execute well. At least it hasn't with me.

However, I'd like to hear more about what everyone thinks concerning Dooku's saber. I'm looking to be convinced one way or another.

TV's Frink said:

timdiggerm said:

Oh goodness, a whole message board for people making protocol droid costumes and models. Well, there goes that logistical problem!

And I thought *we* were nerds. ;-)

We are Frink.... We are.

Hell is gay?

This may be my favorite thread.... Oh, and not long ago I posted a new edit.... And then my IP address on my phone was blocked.. Wasn't sure a phone had one of those. Anyway, it amused me. It also amuses me that he thinks one can't beat an IP block. I have several times to go back occasionally and seek ACTUAL answers for my banning.

I'm hearing you... But not sure how to make that one happen.