mrbenja0618

Someone is rendering out what could be the final cut of their edit today...

MrInsaneA said:

 

The first trailer for Star Wars Definitive, done in the style of the original 1977 Star Wars trailer. Any comments/criticism would be appreciated :)

 

http://vimeo.com/31633937

I respect the idea, but did you do that crazy saturation on purpose? And I think it would have been interesting if you had spliced Ep. 1 footage in same place they spliced in ANH footage for that trailer. I do like the idea though.

MrInsaneA said:

mrbenja0618 said:

I have to admit at first I though; "Ugh, another Pod Race edit." However, the new music really made it stronger for me. Gave it some much needed emotion.

However, there are some criticisms, one is subjective, but the other is technical.

PLEASE remove all sand people and Jawas from the race. I HATE that Lucas felt that every creature that was featured on tattooine in ANH had to have cute little comedic cameos in this movies. It's lame, and it lessens in the impact when you eventually get to them in Ep. 4.

My other criticism is something I feel is beyond subjective and needs to be fixed. You need to work on audio levels. KEEP THE MUSIC PLEASE... But the levels on both sides were back and forth. Sometimes I though TPM's levels were to loud, and then sometimes I couldn't hear dialogue because of the new music. Just food for thought.

All that aside, I really like it, and I think it can work very well! You did an amazing job of timing the music cues to the action.

Oh trust me, the audio is NOT in any way final.  This is just to give you a basic outline as to what I PLAN on doing with this scene.

As for the Jawas and Tuskens....there isn't any reason not to have them. I'm making this as if there wasn't an OT before, as if this was the very first Star Wars film. So you see Tuskens and Jawas, they aren't being "shoehorned" in. They're just a bunch of random alien races, like the rest of Mos Espa's inhabitants. It isn't until AOTC and ANH that either of them play any major role. 

Plus it would COMPLETELY mess up the music synchronization, and the flow of the scene in general. 

 

Well, they don't seem shoehorned in ep. 1, but then they WILL feel that way in the far more important ANH. Just my opinion though.

I have to admit at first I though; "Ugh, another Pod Race edit." However, the new music really made it stronger for me. Gave it some much needed emotion.

However, there are some criticisms, one is subjective, but the other is technical.

PLEASE remove all sand people and Jawas from the race. I HATE that Lucas felt that every creature that was featured on tattooine in ANH had to have cute little comedic cameos in this movies. It's lame, and it lessens in the impact when you eventually get to them in Ep. 4.

My other criticism is something I feel is beyond subjective and needs to be fixed. You need to work on audio levels. KEEP THE MUSIC PLEASE... But the levels on both sides were back and forth. Sometimes I though TPM's levels were to loud, and then sometimes I couldn't hear dialogue because of the new music. Just food for thought.

All that aside, I really like it, and I think it can work very well! You did an amazing job of timing the music cues to the action.

Jaitea said:

Yeah it sounds like a good idea, but when our heroes discover the Death Star at the remains of Alderaan, Han especially can't believe what he's seeing, if it had been stationed at the Empire home planet, the nerve centre of the galaxy every star system would know. The ultimate weapon may end up guarding Coruscant, but I think at this early stage it would still be hidden,....dunno

J

A very true statement.

DominicCobb said:

I know people are always looking for ways to put Coruscant in the OT (or at least I am), so I was thinking, remember the planet the Death Star orbits in ANHR? What if it was Coruscant?

Could be interesting. Would like to see it.

Asteroid-Man said:

Hey guys, just wanted to drop in to say that I just got an editing position with my school's production company - if all goes well, they'll keep me on as a regular employee! :D

Congrats. Those jobs are hard to come by lately.

aalenfae said:

Thanks!
But there's not much I can do about the cartoonish look of the CGI. I'm doing my best to cut back on CG 

I know it sounds silly. But introduce some grain into the shot, and for some reason the whole thing comes off a bit more realistic. Something I'm doing for Redemption.

I love that clip too... That game was ALMOST awesome. I will say all friggin' 5 minutes of the gameplay time they give you was pretty fun. =/

Jacobss said:

Why not? Palpatine is not a nice uncle. He is a Sith Lord for God's sake! With his final revelation, there is nothing more to hide. 

In the original cut, he is a nice uncle at this point. But, a few hours later, he kills Jedi without any problems, gives order 66 and convert republic into galactic empire. This totally contradicts his character. Of course, you would say he was doing that to manipulate Anakin, so there is no contradiction in his character. The problem is, it makes Anakin dumb as wood. There is a Sith Lord standing before him, who has killed millions of people and he believe's that he is ok? How naive you have to be? This is exactly unbelievable like when Palpatine kills Windu and tells Anakin, that he does not have the power to save Padme. Of course Anakin does nothing and accept that, being a five year old naive child.

I agree. However, while this idea is interesting I fail to see how it would fix the above problem in the narrative.

Right, it's rough you said, and needs a tune up, but it works very well. Nice.

Kinda cool.. But unnecessary to me. I would rather make the films rhyme by using the same methods of making a film that the OT applied. If that makes any sense.

MrInsaneA said:

Dooku, as the Sith lord for two of the prequel films, does IMO need a theme. In my fan edit, I'm using Xizor's theme as a substitute. Works really well.

I would like to see/hear that.

bobgarcia74 said:

Hehe. It's not dead guys. It's a time issue. Replacing old footage and still special fx shots to be done. Wish it could go faster, but a man has to do what a man has to do :) ATM this mans been a bit busy. It'll get there for sure tho. Thanks for staying interested in the work tho. It means alot.

Sounds great, Bob. Good to hear the rumors of your death were greatly exaggerated.

adywan said:

All the sample images are taken from the latest version using the blu-ray as a source, so the fighters are grey. I decided to stick to my original plan and have the TIEs a uniform grey colour, the TIE bombers as blue and in ROTJ:R the TIE interceptors blue. 

Excellent news to me.

All the same... Some angel reassurance would be swell.

And USUALLY Angel pops in to assure everyone that it's still rolling......

This thread is giving me a sad. :(   I want to be wrong but it feels dead.

TV's Frink said:

Buy the DVD.

What he said.

Most of the cut scenes are useless. The only one that I felt actually needed to be in was the scene where Qui-Gon hacks the probe droid in half.... THIS explains why Ani and Qui-Gon are running randomly in the desert like they are running from someone. No idea why LucasTard Ltd. decided to remove that.

fettip said:

 

Thou i would have really loved to see TJ & infodroids 'REBORN' vision completed.

As would I... But ID is retired unfortunately.

Still have very slim hopes that he will resurface so he can finish what would be the most amazing Indy 4 edit around IMHO.

And by "rest" i am referring to the Jar-Jar speak.

MrInsaneA said:

Herro boyos!!!

Meesa almost done wit a rough draft version of The Phantom Menace Definitive. It's berry rough, and bombad, and consists only of cuts, and added music/dialogue. All of the audio is temporary, and just to give yoosa a taste a whatss to come. The quality also isn't berry muy muy so keepsa dat in mind, okee-day?

Oh man..... Thanks for the update... But......Just.......no to the rest. ;)

timdiggerm said:

What he's saying is that if you hear a recognizable theme from "Close Encounters" or "Jurassic Park" while watching a Star Wars film, you will probably be distracted by the recognition and out-of-placeness.

What he said.

If I'm watching Star Wars and all of a sudden I hear the Indiana Jones theme, I better see a man in a fedora pretty quick or my brain will flat-line.

Yeah, it does state that.. Doesn't seem to be enforced. I have one SW clip on mine that's at least year old.

I used subtle John Williams cues from different films like Jaws and Close Encounters. The trick is to use music without any recognizable themes.