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Norm Macdonald Tonight Show Appearance Cancelled After #MeToo Comments
This really pisses me off. Not only are his comments reasonable, they have nothing to do with what anyone is getting upset at. And of course, the best way to traverse a controversy is to deny the man in the middle of it a voice.
Even moreso, his comments had made senior producers of the show cry. I am not sure how we as a society can continue if we cry over a differing viewpoint. Everyone upset at him has taken his comments out of context and misconstrued them. The man is a comedian ffs.
The internet freaking sucks. This groupthink mentality is killing us.
How the hell were his comments reasonable?
It’s insane how people will always defend the dipshit over the people who are actually hurt.
Who was really “hurt”? Seriously.
We’re talking about “Me Too” right? People are hurt every day by sex pests of all sorts. And Norm Macdonald says he’s glad “Me Too is done” or whatever. How anyone could take Norm’s side on this is insane to me.
I thought we were talking about Macdonald, Louis CK and Roseanne Barr. No one was hurt by Macdonald or Roseanne and I don’t think that anyone was really hurt by Louis CK either, to be honest. Me Too uncovered some monsters, which is good, but it also encouraged a lot of fraudulent accusations like the ones against Aziz Ansari and Chris Hardwick. I’m glad that “time’s up” for the sexual harassers in the industry, but I also think that the whole public trial for anything resembling sexual misconduct is a terrible idea and I hope that we’re done with that.
You have to be kidding me about CK. That shit was fucked up and certainly could not insignificant emotional distress at the very least.
I guess. I don’t know, it’s a little fucked up and pretty pathetic but I don’t really care. He asked people if he could masturbate in front of them.
That he “asked them,” first of all doesn’t matter, because a) they almost certainly thought he was joking, and b) some of the accusers said he didn’t ask, CK just said he ‘only ever asked’ in his apology to make it sound less bad and save face, which should be obvious from the rest of his apology (which wasn’t even really an apology, honestly).
Eh, I can forgive him for that.
There aren’t enough funny people in this world to start throwing them aside over something like that.
That’s not true at all.
What? Are you kidding? Have you spoken to people before? Almost none of them are funny or talented in any way.
I don’t see how the accusations against Ansari or Hardwick were fraudulent. I don’t understand why people are so desperate to think accusers are lying, when putting yourself out there in that way is just putting a target on your back. There’s not much perceivable benefit.
I don’t get the benefit either, but that doesn’t mean that those accusations weren’t obviously bullshit. The Ansari ones seemed to be just an airing of a bad, uncomfortable date.
How does that make it fraudulent?
It was an attempt to smear him over something that had no business being in the public sphere. Fraudulent may be the wrong word. Unethical? Exploitative? Take your pick.
Hardwick’s accusations were lies. They were obviously made up by a really unstable person and the claims were inconsistent with reality. I don’t get this notion that there aren’t liars out there. That really confuses me; of course there are. That’s why we have real trials.
I don’t see how they were “obviously made up.”
It seemed pretty obvious to me and most other people that actually looked at it objectively.
I never said there aren’t liars out there (though it’s really quite doubtful they’d be in large numbers considering). It just seems wrongheaded to always assume these people are lying just because they’re accusing people you like.
I don’t assume they’re lying, just as I don’t assume they’re telling the truth. And I hate Chris Hardwick. He’s boring and not funny at all.