moviefreakedmind

Even if you don’t believe that it is literally fire, the point is obvious that Jesus Christ meant that hell is a place of unimaginable torture.

As for chyron’s point about “our perceptions” coloring things, I think it’s fair to judge God by the standards that the Bible claims he judges us. We’re supposed to love our enemies, God tortures his enemies for eternity. I’d imagine that if I personally kidnapped a nonbeliever and tortured them myself because they weren’t Christian, I’d be rightfully labelled an evil maniac. But that’s what Jesus Christ proudly proclaimed he does. Saying that a character that does such a thing is loathsome is not unfair at all.

Mrebo said:

I’m not a churchgoer nor otherwise part of a formal religion. But I believe there is a separation from God, as it is often described.

The Bible certainly doesn’t describe it as that. That’s a very sanitized version of Hell. Jesus Christ himself is constantly yelling at people about how they’ll burn eternally and be eaten by worms in hell.

To mfm’s point, I think the traditional Christian view has become shamed into near oblivion since it is seen as intolerant of others’s beliefs. And that also goes to an idea that religion defining a certain path to salvation is incompatible with a modern pluralistic society.

I think it is a pretty intolerant belief to preach that everyone who disagrees with you on theology will burn eternally.

chyron8472 said:

I did not answer because I was not here. But yes, I do believe that Hell exists. Simply put, believe so because the Bible says it does, in particular because testimony about Jesus Himself says that Jesus says it does.

Well, of course he did. That’s where our idea of hell comes from.

And also there reportedly are people in our current society who have had near-death experiences who also confirm that it exists.

And all of those near-death experiences contradict each other. I had a near-death experience once. I saw my parents standing over my body. They weren’t actually there, it was just a hallucination.

It’s not something I prefer to focus on,

Why not? If you believe that people are going to go to hell forever, shouldn’t you be up in arms about warning them?

and I can understand the argument people try to make that a loving God wouldn’t allow for such a place. But I don’t like the idea of putting God into a box as though He isn’t a certain way just because people don’t want Him to be since it makes them uncomfortable to accept it.

Everyone should understand the argument that sending otherwise decent people to an eternity in suffering for simply not believing in the right religion (especially if they didn’t even know about Christianity’s existence) is a despicable act. You’re right that such evil actions wouldn’t necessarily disprove the existence of God, though it surely would make him far more villainous than any of humanity’s most evil of men if such a God did exist.

Handman said:

But some party like it is.

That’s pretty good.

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

CatBus said:

Mrebo said:

Does this go here or…?

Reminds me a bit of doubleofive’s post here which I can’t link directly because I can’t figure out how to do that anymore unless the post has been edited.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/General-Star-Wars-Random-Thoughts-Thread/id/12545/page/31

…from 2011. Can’t remember what I had for breakfast half the time but I remember that post.

I remember that post. It’s quite good, and proof the forum was better back then.

Oh really?

twister111 said:

corellian77 said:

I’d like to see the scene immediately following this one, where Kirk gives Vader a karate chop to the neck, stuns all four stormtroopers, then makes out with Princess Leia.

This is what happens:

Kirk gets a look like this:

Then this happens:

Then some of this:

After that this:

Then the doctor wants some companionship too:

Then Kirk makes out with Leia as seen in above post. Whole thing then turns into a huge sex scene.

(imagine XXX imagery above)

Afterwards Picard and Janeway’s orders to all the new couples:

Twister is probably going to go to hell for that post.

suspiciouscoffee said:

Question to any and all religious folk here: do you or do you not believe in hell, or similar places, and why?

A lot of the less devout tend to avoid talking about hell these days. When they do they particularly don’t like to admit that Christianity condemns all (meaning every single person) that don’t believe in the Jesus Christ of the Bible will go to the fiery depths of hell to burn for all eternity. Sorry, that doesn’t answer your question, but given that no one has answered your post is telling.

oojason said:

Harmy has put up a video on youtube - just to remind everyone that Fan Edits must never be bought or sold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrwKZHv4OS0

It’s a great video, but I’m surprised it still needs to be made today. Spending money on a fanedit in this day and age would be like spending money on pornography. It ain’t 1999 no more.

suspiciouscoffee said:

The only stalkers to make jokes about are those kids that run around Chernobyl.

Don’t you dare tell any jokes that resemble the film Stalker. That’s one of my all time favorite foreign films.

TV’s Frink said:

His opinion? The one where he’s bitching about jason’s moderation while trying to pretend he’s not? I don’t care about his opinion. I only commented on his completely transparent and sad attempt at pretending he didn’t have it.

Let’s hope you’re never on a jury.

SilverWook said:

These random shootings are getting too close to home for me. I was at the Oaks mall just last month. Used to go there quite often with my Mom in the old days. I doubt anybody I know was involved.

That the usual idiots on twitter are already twisting this by drawing comparison to the Florida bridge collapse, (saying bridges kill more people than guns) makes me ill.

There was a fatal shooting at a mall and a high school in my relatively small city about ten years ago. Coworkers and classmates of mine at the time even knew the victims and one of the murderers. In fact, I even had gone to school with the murderer a couple years earlier. It’s an eerie and frightening feeling.

I don’t believe that anyone actually likes the Holiday Special. I refuse to believe that.

I really enjoyed my senior year of high school.

EDIT: And college.

That isn’t what I typed.

I’ve ingested a lot of over-the-counter pain relievers in my lifetime.

Well, I should say that when I say that I like Ghostbusters II, I basically just mean that I didn’t throw up when I watched it. That’s about all I can hope for from movies these days.

EDIT: I guess 1989 still counts as “these days.”

LuckyGungan2001 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

From every clip I’ve seen the remake of Ghostbusters just doesn’t look like it is my humor style. Extremely loud and a lot of rambling dialogue. I haven’t seen it, so I can’t judge it on quality, but I’ve seen several parts of it and it just isn’t funny at all to me.

It’s so awful, and so long. Give it a miss.

Was I right about it being extremely loud and full of rambling and aimless dialogue that is supposed to be funny?

Right on the money.

I’ve never been right about anything in my life so I have to savor this moment.

Just for the record, I wasn’t being an asshole (at least not intentionally) with that post. I can relate to Handman and I find pleasure in things like TV.

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

I am having difficulty thinking of how more information could change how this looks. But I am always willing to listen more information and will not accuse you of standing up for the school or accuse you of sticking your fingers in your ears until you hear one nugget of fact that supports the possibility that they did no wrong.

I’m sure there’s details that determine the level of barbarism here, but there’s nothing anyone can say that justifies corporal punishment in schools.

I hope you didn’t miss my first post when I found about about the school using corporal punishment.

Just like how it doesn’t matter what any apologist cop says when an officer shoots an unarmed hostage or little boy in a park to death.

how many more times are you going to keep going back to the cop shootings?

The response is a relevant example.

Sure maybe there are certain degrees of criminality there, but the situation is vile no matter what. There is no need to analyze every detail to come to that conclusion.

You should never be on a jury.

If I were on a jury, my opinion on how vile something is wouldn’t exactly matter, would it? I’d be there to determine if the person was guilty or not of certain crimes based on the evidence provided.

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

so while surprising I’m not outraged. Also, I’m not against spanking in principle, such as when done by parents, but I don’t see the value when done by principal or teacher.

I don’t see much value in a parent physically harming there child either, but I get that that’s a different situation.

you’ve got the wrong person with that quote. I didn’t say it, Mrebo did.

I also used the wrong spelling of “their,” but sorry. I don’t know how that happened.

Handman said:

I’m so fucking sick and tired of this life I lead. It’s so monotonous and I don’t know how anybody does it. I keep getting turned down by everybody that it just sucks.

Watch more television, that’s what I do.

LuckyGungan2001 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

From every clip I’ve seen the remake of Ghostbusters just doesn’t look like it is my humor style. Extremely loud and a lot of rambling dialogue. I haven’t seen it, so I can’t judge it on quality, but I’ve seen several parts of it and it just isn’t funny at all to me.

It’s so awful, and so long. Give it a miss.

Was I right about it being extremely loud and full of rambling and aimless dialogue that is supposed to be funny?

Warbler said:

so while surprising I’m not outraged. Also, I’m not against spanking in principle, such as when done by parents, but I don’t see the value when done by principal or teacher.

I don’t see much value in a parent physically harming there child either, but I get that that’s a different situation.

Warbler said:

I am having difficulty thinking of how more information could change how this looks. But I am always willing to listen more information and will not accuse you of standing up for the school or accuse you of sticking your fingers in your ears until you hear one nugget of fact that supports the possibility that they did no wrong.

I’m sure there’s details that determine the level of barbarism here, but there’s nothing anyone can say that justifies corporal punishment in schools. Just like how it doesn’t matter what any apologist cop says when an officer shoots an unarmed hostage or little boy in a park to death. Sure maybe there are certain degrees of criminality there, but the situation is vile no matter what. There is no need to analyze every detail to come to that conclusion.

If a teacher used “corporal punishment” on one of my children for exercising their right to free expression, I would stick my thumbs into that teacher’s eye sockets.

I definitely wouldn’t call him a cult leader.

From every clip I’ve seen the remake of Ghostbusters just doesn’t look like it is my humor style. Extremely loud and a lot of rambling dialogue. I haven’t seen it, so I can’t judge it on quality, but I’ve seen several parts of it and it just isn’t funny at all to me.