MalaStrana#2

While you’re at it, I remember this was pointed out as a slight audio improvement to be made during the battle, and the work is already done:

hinventon said:

Made a small audio change with duel of the fates, right when the Droidekas appear there was a weird transition due to the lack of Anakin scenes that stuck out to me, just spliced in the actual track and it sounds a lot nicer. It’s pretty amazing that you cut so much and only like 3 audio cuts were noticeable.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AkUVqxDRueZs82XKBKxAl4S4IMoOOC-A/view?usp=sharing

It really does improve the audio editing here (a slight improvement but a very nice one).

RogueLeader said:

Here is the puppet show! It’s very short, but hopefully people will think it’s worth all of the effort. I’m sure I’ll need to tweak it some more, so I’m just gonna share a streamable link until it’s finalized.

https://streamable.com/h1f3ot

Also wanted to note who all contributed to this very small edit.
I may be wrong, but I believe DZ-330, Cinefy and DominicCobb all had this idea at one point or another.
Proof of Concept by Cinefy
Clean Stage Plates by poppasketti and MoviesRemastered
Puppet Designs by Captain Faraday
Alien Dub by ThisIsCreation
Produced by RogueLeader

This is so damn cute, guys. Bravo!

jedi_bendu said:

I think it was more a publicity thing they deemed necessary because Carano was controversial.

Yeah: when you don’t think like Disney and all mainstream corporations tell you to, you become controversial. That’s also what Star Wars was about back in the 70s.

When Star Wars becomes the all powerful Empire, fans should stop defending it… (imho, of course)

JakeRyan17 said:

Well, firstly, Clone Wars is closer to 5yrs than 3.

Also, it is a kids show, so I wouldn’t expect it to go further away from family-oriented than Mandalorian.

That wasn’t my point at all.

Lastly, there will be major lore elements explored, as we’ve had two of the three episodes deal with the clones being replaced, and why.

And I found this extremely weak and lazy, adding nothing of value to the lore.

Still not convinced with S01E02: it serioulsy lacks something in this show to interest me. Getting another “Mando & Grogu” kind of storytelling with Solid Snake & Omega feels quite tired already (besides, imho it was the weak spot of Mando). This show doesn’t seem to add anything to the mythology that couldn’t be find anywhere else (Rebels, TCW, Mando). Also, the timelines don’t quite fit, but this already was my issue with the main series TCW (I don’t buy that so many stuff and character evolutions happened in 3 years between AOTC and ROTS).

I won’t follow the show any further, unless I read somewhere that it’s really getting good.

FVDnz said:
We don’t need to see him escape the Sarlaac, do we? Or maybe just a little hint that he did escape… 😉

You’ve got two tv series with him alive, what more hints do you need 😄

It’s the faneditor’s choice anyway, but I would feel it out of place to use the last chapter of the best SW trilogy to stage whatever tv show added 40 years later.

Saw the pilot and… well, it’s lame. I won’t comment on the technicality, because TCW was already a very well done show during Lucas era. However, on what the show is about, it’s just so uninteresting and bland, with very little happening in an incredibly repetitive narration and character interactions. Really, they even made Tarkin not interesting, that’s a first. Let’s hope it gets better with time, in the meantime I don’t get all the fuzz for something so inconsequential and packed by marketing managers…

SparkySywer said:

For that same reason you could argue that the Darth Sidious line doesn’t count either. If you never saw the prequels, you would just assume that was just new information.

Well, Luke basically sums up the PT in that line, so it definitely is a direct PT reference.

RogueLeader said:
I think they made Rey a Palpatine for a few reasons.

1. To give fanboys a reason why Rey was so powerful.

I think sticking to a “chosen one” approach would have been enough. I never liked this angle though (it was a weird trend during the 90s: Matrix, Harry Potter, Star Wars, …), but between a random slave being “chosen” by the Force and someone who inherits her powers from genetics (but not her parents ?), one option still sounds better to me.
in the final movie we got, one can argue we kinda merge both approaches though: Rey is chosen by the Force AND she’s the granddaughter of a powerful Sith (something which could be applied to Anakin if one overreads Palpatine dialogues though during the Opera sequence in Ep3), but still doesn’t really explain everything she knows, everything seems so easy to her, it’s really boring for me to follow her adventures in the ST (I stick to my point made roughlty 6 yars ago: Finn should have been the main protagonist of the ST, not just a comic relief) 😕 She’s like the Avatar the last airbender, but without the same empathy and without the fun…

For Ep 1/2 I think Hal’s latest iterations are near perfect: they still feel and look like real movies, with almost nothing which sells their fanedited nature. Ep2 still retains bad (but not THAT bad) stuff to avoid jarring cuts. If someday Lucasfilm releases finalized deleted scenes, Ep2 could be as perfect as it could be I guess. Ep1 is near as good except I still feel that the first meeting with the Gungas is missing (I’m on the other hand ok with removing the long and boring journey to the planet core).
For Ep3 not sure which one is the best as I think I prefer the theatrical cut enhanced with the deleted scenes (unlike Ep1/2 I do like Ep3 as a good movie with many flaws but with many qualities we don’t find in SW latest entries anymore). The best cut would be the extended cut with a few things removed borrowing from various fanedits. Octoroxx was working on something which could be that near perfection I guess.

Tackel said:

MalaStrana#2 said:
even tough there still is this audio track issue of the volume 2 5.1 track missing.

Can you elaborate? I have it on my end and it’s the same I uploaded.

Really? Let me check the latest version you uploaded on the spleen but I clearly remember the 5.1 track was in fact a 2.0 track.

Not surprising though: Disney hasn’t been investing much regarding Star Wars restoration catalogue. Lucas Original Hexalogy as released in 2019 was already in the work when they bought Lucasfilm for example.

But it’s OK, the 4K version tackled by Tackel is good enough, even tough there still is this audio track issue of the volume 2 5.1 track missing.

RogueLeader said:

I love how people don’t like Omega already. It’s the same type of fan who hated Ahsoka and Ezra, but then they grew up and they love them.

Hum no: Ezra is still is a lame character in my book. And early days Ahsoka is still very lame.

A street is enough to get you excited ? Damn, I miss being young :DDDDDDDDD

Well, considering Mando, it can be somehow good. I just hope they won’t create little inconsistencies and weird plot issues as they did with Rogue One. I wonder if CGI Tarkin will be back as well since it appears there will be an Imperial side of the story.

sherlockpotter said:

To be clear, Palpy’s plan for Rey is:

• Order Kylo to kill Rey.
• Anticipate him both trying to mow her down with his ship. But actually not want to kill her after all.
• Secretly lure Rey to him by means of…Ochi’s Dagger?
• Convince her to kill him by telling her it’s what he wants?
• Send his guards to try and kill Rey in the throne room as she’s about to kill him anyway
• Try to kill Rey anyway once the guards fail to do so
• Resurrect himself…some other way, I guess?
• Rule over a galaxy that he’s completely destroyed.

All of this convoluted nonsense could be avoided if his plan can be retooled to “Kill Rey because she is the last great threat to his return.”

I would say Palpatine is consistent over 3 trilogies at elaborating incredibly complex plots 😄

Hal 9000 said:

I haven’t noticed any issues with the video game footage at all, to be quite honest, but the consensus was clear that using it would throw a lot of people.

For what’s worth, the extended opening with the video game footage has grown on me, I think t really adds more to the scene and it clearly shows how powerful is the first order compared to the neo-rebels.

Hal 9000 said:

There’s a pine tree in this shot, so we’re fine:

When I see this kind of shot, even though I remember how silly the movie is, I can’t help thinking “hey, at least this movie looks good!” 😄 (I think it looks way better than TFA which is the least interesting looking SW in my book)

WookieeWarrior77 said:

Sure the Vader scene was cool, the pilots were nice, and it tied in nicely to the original Star Wars at the end; but other than that it just isn’t a very good movie in my not so humble opinion.

I do agree: since day one I don’t like this movie. Let’s say I tolerate it now because of a few qualities (it looks great, I’m a big fan of Giacchino’s score, and a few sequences actually are pretty good). One of my main issues is it doesn’t tie that nicely to the original SW. When I watched both movies back to back, ANH felt inconsistent with R1 in many ways… I have the same problem with the PT, however at least ROTS ends some 20 years before ANH starts, so my mind can adjust the inconsistencies with the time gap. With R1, the 5 minutes gap don’t explain why Vader is suddenly so weak and got memory issues… I don’ dig at all the plot about some engineer who input a defect on purpose into the DS, it kinda ruins everything we see in ANH (it removes the symbolic of the Dragon to become something which allegedly makes sense, exactly what people usually are mad with the PT for but they mostly gave a pass to R1 here for some reasons I still don’t get). Also, R1 is a war movie with some myth used as a background for no real value, so even in tone it doesn’t align well with the main Saga.

In the end, I really hated it when I first saw it. Now it take it as it is: a boring war movie with incredible visuals, high standard scenery and a thrilling last half hour. Which qualifies it as one of the best of the Disney (bad) batch 😄

(my Disney ranking would be: TLJ > R1 > Solo > TROS > TFA)

Hal 9000 said:

Here’s the original source. The guy PM’d me the raw files. I’m sure he’d do the same if you ask.

https://twitter.com/reylochriso/status/1245326687941693440?s=20

Well I actually like this very well done addition; I think I only dislike the obvious fanedit lines “For Skywalker” and “We believe in you Poe”.

Oki. I will remove the fleet chatter as part of the “Palpatine broadcast” overture track I will be synchronizing to v2. Shouldn’t be too difficult 😃

(I could export a version without Palpatine overture for those you would prefer Hal’s track without the fleet chatter, since it wouldn’t be more time consuming to do so on my side anyway)

By the way, I don’t remember if there is a dedicated thread but since I mainly only contribute here, I wish you all guys an excellent 2021 !

Hal 9000 said:

Yeah. Anyway, here’s everything on my radar for V2:

• Add Vader’s Castle to the opening Mustafar sequence (seems like it’ll be the work of 21C Peasant and Movies Remastered - ongoing)

• Add two shots featuring Coruscant to the Star Destroyer conference room scene (thanks to Poppasketti)

• Remove line “from the Southern shore” from 3PO’s translation, as that was when a protractor was involved, and now it’s merely a coordinate followed by mystical guidance (not super necessary, maybe)

• Possibly remove Rey asking, “What?” when Finn formerly started saying he had something to tell her in the sinking fields (I forget who pointed this out - haven’t zoomed in to investigate for myself yet)

• Possibly restructure the space battle opening slightly like DominicCobb, but I need to zoom in and consider it

• Can Rey’s mother not mention her name? We all liked the idea that Rey named herself, per the X-wing helmet’s Aurabesh translation in TFA.

• Use the crackly saber effect courtesy of kewlfish and Luka Frik

• If it comes to fruition, use RogueLeader’s idea for Rey’s saber to fizzle out as Kylo gets the better of her during their duel on the DSII.

Sounds cool. Will you provide an alternate track without added KoR lines and added civil fleet lines as well ?

I concur. It looks neat. Not that fan of the pilot shots but the battle ground and the Tie fighters added material is really good. Hal is only going to add the first castle shot to TROS:A, right?

Octorox said:

So, since I updated my extended edition of ROTS, I’ve been working on this again. I’m trying to rework the “Plot to Destroy the Jedi” deleted scene into something that isn’t redundant with the war table scene (The reference in The Clone Wars kind of convinced me to keep it). Here’s what I have right now: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lhItqeRBSgVbRQnN3Jc_wfIzPvP0hg4D/view?usp=sharing

Unfortunately in the surround mix you can hear some whispers of Yoda’s original dialogue in the other audio channels. Does anyone happen to know where I can find the music that was originally used in this scene? Was it something from Episode II?

EDIT: Sorry, just fixed the permissions on the link.

It’s cool, maybe a little bit too quick on the scene cut to the Council meeting.

(if I may, this addition would also be great as part of your extended cut, since you would be adding material)

sidshady12 said:

It is an interesting thing to think about - how far did they go on their first light speed jump? And would it make sense with the whole chances of running into a star or other debris?

The speed of light is 299,792,458 m / s

Being generous, I’m assuming he was going light speed for 3 seconds, but it might be 3.2 or something. Multiplied by 3 and converted to miles, you only get 558,847.

EDIT: nvm ships go WAY faster than the speed of light in star wars pretty sure

https://www.tor.com/2014/12/08/star-wars-how-fast-is-the-millennium-falcon/#:~:text=The Millennium Falcon’s top speed,So there we have it.

With this guys research and anaylsis, which I’m inclined to believe because for the star wars lore/movies to make sense with the distances and speeds seen then going hyper speed would be extremely faster than just normal light speed, so even 3 seconds is by no means a ‘quick/close jump.’ Did some calculations with the times this guy theorized and the falcon likely would’ve gone a couple trillion miles in just a few seconds

Well, I would say it’s Star Wars, not Star Trek, doesn’t need to be realistic as long as it keeps inner consistency within the Universe it takes place.