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#283574
Topic
Celebrate Global Warming
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283574/action/topic#283574
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Here's the difference.

Liberals think Global Warming is coming due to temperature variations and that it's humans that have done it. Scientists can't prove that one way or another. Yes, they know the Earth's temperature is changing, but they don't know what's causing it. Some of them claim that since it was cooler before, that it must be because of us. That's not exactly scientific. They also say it's going to happen in the next 10-20 years (or whatever they're saying now).

The Rapture is coming as well, but most conservatives won't tell you "In 20 years, the Rapture's going to get us all" because none of us know when exactly it's going to happen. It could happen today, it could happen tomorrow, it could be happening right now. All we do know is what's in the Bible. But since God's timetable is far different from our own, we just don't know when it's going to be. Remember that 2000 years ago, Jesus said the kingdom of Heaven was at hand. This lead a lot of early Christians to believe that it was coming in their lifetime. Well, it didn't come. God is timeless, so "at hand" could have easily been 3000 years from then. The point is that we don't know.

To sum up, liberals think they know Global Warming is coming or is already here. Conservatives know the Rapture is coming, they just don't know when and most don't claim to know when. "You better be good, because when the Rapture comes, if you're not good, you're gonna be dead."

I don't have much to say about "Earth Day". I think it's silly. We're taking a day to celebrate the Earth? Why don't we just do that every day?
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#283549
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283549/action/topic#283549
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Originally posted by: ferris209
That was what I thought, but the self defense was considered mute by the judge and prosecuting attorney because they explained that the level of force far exceeded what was necessary. The attorney basically stated, "Black eye and bloody lip for a simple thumped ear. This amount of force used by said 14 year old was excessive and unnecessary in response to minor teasing which could have simply been reported to a teacher at a later time and did not require an immediate reaction by the Defendant."


HA! What a load of bull. That's exactly what I mean. So instead of hitting him, he'd go to a teacher and the teacher would be like "Oh, stop being such a baby, all he did was thump you on the ear". And if he reports every incident, he's labelled a baby and a taddle tail. No way! Whip that shit in the bud! It always requires an immediate reaction. Otherwise, it gets even worse after you tell the teacher, usually because the bully finds out about it and wants to make sure you don't tell again. If anyone's going to escalate it, it should be the one being bullied.

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#283497
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283497/action/topic#283497
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I'm not surprised something like that happened. I guess my feelings on it are that I'd tell my kid "If you get pushed or bullied, hit them, make sure you hurt them, and do your best not to get caught". That essentially means make sure no adults see you and make sure you've got friends around that'll back you. At least that way there's conflicting stories and no one will ever know what really happened.

And Wayseed, I don't think college students should be engaging in sexual activity anyway. They're their to learn, not have sex with anything that moves.
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#283481
Topic
NASA Shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283481/action/topic#283481
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Think it was inspired by the VT shooting?


I was honestly thinking that and wondering if we'd start seeing more shootings every week. I honestly don't know though. I really hope not. That's the worst thing that could happen, for people all across the country to start going on rampages every week.
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#283480
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283480/action/topic#283480
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Originally posted by: eros
It's the big morality part of the 'dream' that is the problem. as soon as something like that school incident this week happens the morality establishment are running around lokking for a scape goat. You know the usual; .....too much Grand Theft Auto, Heavy Metal, Violent movies etc. (an easy target to blame). Instead at looking at society within and the problems that lead to these incidents. Don't get me wrong the UK is bad with violent crime these days but it doesn't get world wide coverage when someone goes haywire like the US does.


Actually, surprisingly enough, I haven't heard anyone blame anything except bullying. According to the video he released, his bullying took place in middle and high school. I guess he was a little slow on the uptake if he was exacting revenge at VT for things that happened in high school.

I have heard plenty of how we need to take a stronger stance against bullying. My thoughts on that are that parents need to come down harder on the school administration when it happens. Having been there (I was bullied) and knowing how the administration works, I'd tell my kid "If he pushes you, hit him". You don't have to win the fight for the bully to leave you alone. The worst that would happen these days is that you'd get expelled (I don't think you'd be expelled for hitting someone though). At best, it's a day or a few days suspension. I think I can live with that, but I won't have to deal with it for a while.

The problem with looking "within" at society is that people are bullied everyday, yet kids aren't going on rampages everyday. I really don't think this was a problem with society. I think he was mentally disturbed (he was in a mental hospital for a while) and needed to be under close supervision.
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#283454
Topic
WOOKIE GROOMER PRESENTS: ADDICTED TO STAR WARS (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283454/action/topic#283454
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I just watched a bit of this today (totally forgot I even had it). It looks totally awesome! I just wish I could change the audio channel on the DVD player by number instead of just pushing the "Audio" button.

I was considering upping this to Demonoid, but it'll be a few weeks before I can get to it. If there's a lot of interest, I'll do it. Otherwise, I'm not going to waste my time.
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#283436
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283436/action/topic#283436
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Originally posted by: bigbaddaddyvader
I sincerely hope the families of the victims take out restraining orders against the lunatics in Westboro.If those ghouls turned up at the funeral of my child with their hateful propaganda I do not think I could be responsible for my actions.


I think I'd do my best to just ignore them. I'd try to convince my family to do the same. Maybe even drop some hints to the media during interviews or something.

Speaking of media and interviews, apparently the students are sick of the media and are giving them the cold shoulder when asked about the guy and the shooting. Good on them I say.
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#283394
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283394/action/topic#283394
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Originally posted by: eros
It was me who made the 'american dream shattered' comment, so what is the american dream?

Elect an idiot into the whitehouse, then go around the world bombing countries and stealing their natural resources to make sure the american dream (lie) doesn't turn into a civil war because you have to pay over $5 for a gallon of fuel?


This is hardly the thread for stupid ill informed anti-American comments.


Aw c'mon C3PX. You can do better than that.

George W Bush graduated from Yale with a BA and Harvard with an MBA. Al Gore was an underachiever

Fuel was over $2 per gallon with Clinton in the White House. Clinton had several opportunities to kill bin Laden and never took them. I'm not saying "But Clinton!", I'm just stating the facts.

And what exactly do all these things have to do with the American Dream? Nothing actually. Yes Arnie, you nailed what the American Dream is all about.

So eros, do you think 9/11 was an inside job?
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#283359
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283359/action/topic#283359
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Originally posted by: C3PX
"I think the forums would be a lot better off without both you and Rob."

I highly disagree with this ^, though Rob is pretty annoying with posting half naked men on everythread. He would be an okay guy if he wasn't doing that and always pretending to be gay for the sake of attention. But as for Sean, I enjoy having him around, he brings some much needed diversity to these boards and he keeps things lively. The whole conservative - liberal thing he has going on is a little extreme though, but he is not the only one around here guilty of this. Life is not a chess match. It is not always us verses them. You can't categorize the world into two categories. The reason why the terms conservative and liberal are so common use in our society is that everybody has a hard time thinking on their own. They would rather let somebody else do the thinking for them, they also like to have options in this. In the end they just lean to the side that they like the sound of the most or fits their upbringing the best. Thinking is important. Anybody who thinks for themselves is bound to find some good things in both the liberals side and the conservative side, that fact that it so often goes everything or nothing is a pretty good indicator not enough people are thinking on their own. The fact that you have people who say the other news channels are crap and Fox News is the only reliable one and others who claim Fox is the most biased pile of tripe and that if you want to know anything you have to watch CNN or MSNBC, proves this. We are relying on others for our data, instead of going out and finding it on our own. We are all being told what to think, and part of that which we are told to believe is that the liberals/conservatives don't think for themselves, but our side does. Stalemate.


You're probably right. I'm getting really annoyed with Rob's posts, but only slightly annoyed with sean's. That's because sean's posts are mostly just copy and paste from other places. And they're all "controversial". But I guess that he's gotta be controversial since he is a kid

If you're not a liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you're not a conservative at 40 you have no mind. A liberal is just a conservative that hasn't been mugged.
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#283358
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283358/action/topic#283358
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
I think the forums would be a lot better off without both you and Rob.

Don't blame me for your problems. I can't help it if your a dickhead. Sure I make mistakes but I'm just a kid. Dude your a conservative of course you not going to agree with me. The WWF happens to be a highly respectable foundation of course your not going to agree with it. It is not like I'm posting image macros every other post.


Also found this on IMBD.
Music mogul Simon Cowell has acted quickly to defend himself against reports he rolled his eyes during an American Idol contestant's tribute to the students of Virginia Tech University on the TV talent show on Tuesday night. Internet sites went crazy after the incident with critics accusing judge Cowell of being insensitive to singer Chris Richardson's message to friends caught up in the aftermath of Monday's campus massacre. TV cameras captured Cowell making a sarcastic gesture as Richardson said, "My hearts and prayers go out to Virginia Tech. I have a lot of friends over there... Be strong." But he insists he wasn't listening to what Richardson was saying and was caught up in conversation with fellow judge Paula Abdul. Speaking on show host Ryan Seacrest's Los Angeles morning radio show yesterday morning, Cowell, who made his own tribute to the students of Virginia Tech during American Idol, admitted he was horrified to become a target of nasty stories. He said, "You get this crazy story that appears that I rolled my eyes disrespectfully at Chris because he made the comment... The truth was I had switched off at that point and I was talking to Paula. I did wanna clear this one up because this is a very sensitive subject. The irony was is that we did want to set the right tone on the show."


I'm the dickhead? Yeah, I'm the dickhead because I actually looked up some things about cars, emissions, and CO2 based on your post. You can't use the "I'm just a kid" defense if you know full well you're making mistakes. This is 2007, not 1987. Today, you can find out near instantaneously almost any facts you want. You don't have to read something and accept it as gospel.

As for the WWF, they took that photo in China for a reason. China has some of the worst pollution for an industrialized nation. But they have no laws, like we do, for reducing the pollution, so they just keep spewing it out. Maybe if more people came out against China's environmental policies and less against the US ones, they'd start cleaning up their mess.

Did you happen to watch American Idol last night? They showed the clips from Tuesday and you could hear Simon talking. He was in fact ignoring the guy at that point. I'm not sure what you were trying to point out by posting this. I'm sure anyone watching AI on Tuesday might have thought he was dissing the guy, but if you watched it last night, he explained it and then they showed what actually happened. I don't normally watch AI, I just wanted to see if Sanjaya got kicked off (he did).

FYI, I don't really have any problems, at least not with people like you. The facts are on my side. History is on my side. The only liberal around here that I really respect is ADM. I may not agree with him and his conclusions, but they're at least partially based on facts and the full story. Unlike your opinions, which seem to be based on headlines and what some shock jock has to say.
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#283318
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283318/action/topic#283318
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
And sean, you're an idiot.


An idiot for my own beliefs? Help Help i'm being oppressed. The devil is not potrayed as so evil in all cultures.


Actually no. An idiot for everything else I've read on these forums that you've posted. You seem to take the headline of the week and run with it, without doing any other research. The car emissions thread is a prime example. Did you even bother looking up those numbers or did you just find them on some random site somewhere?

I think the forums would be a lot better off without both you and Rob.

EDIT: Oh look at that, no wonder Fox News had that article up "Lauren Green is FOX News Channel's Religion Correspondent." What do you expect out of a Religion Correspondent? Do you expect them to talk psychobabble?
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#283313
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283313/action/topic#283313
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Wow, where to begin.

I don't know how the "American Dream" was shattered by this. In fact, I don't know how the "American Dream" has anything to do with this.

The "American Dream", despite what you think sean, doesn't involve doing as little as possible for as much money as possible. It does involve working hard, which does not necessarily mean doing hard physical labor. Most people aren't paid a lot to do physical labor because it's relatively easy to do and a lot of people can do it. What does tend to pay a lot is thinking. People get paid A LOT of money to use their brains, whether it's physicist's, chemist's, engineer's, or whatever else. Ditch diggers on the other hand get paid very little. The difference is that ditch diggers don't have a whole lot of education, whereas the other careers I mentioned have many years of college behind them.

As for the "greatest man in radio" comment, I guess that just tells us where you're coming from. I'll put this short and eloquently: Howard Stern is a tool. He talks down a lot about other professions, but he's really no different from the rest. He's a shock jock that is really no different from Imus.

I have a really hard time believing that this all came about because he was bullied in middle and high school. How old was he? I seriously doubt students continue to bully him at VT. Maybe that's why he decided to do it, but that's a really stupid reason.

And sean, you're an idiot. The Devil is anything but neutral. The Devil would like nothing better than for more and more people to kill each other. Whether the article on Fox News has any merit or not, the Devil sure isn't sitting by the sidelines just watching everything (what a neutral party would do). If anything, the Devil actively encouraged Cho to go on his rampage. Maybe if he'd had some religion in his life, he wouldn't have done this, but we'll never know that.

The Devil is a fallen angel. He thought he was more powerful than God, so God kicked him out of heaven. He's not "just doing his job". Unless his job is being evil, which is not neutral.
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#283159
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283159/action/topic#283159
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He was a disturbed individual, that's really all there is to it. He didn't just snap and kill a bunch of people, he was mentally unstable. He had a history, but I'm still not sure this could have been prevented. People are targetting the guns because there's nothing else left to target. The students are dead and Cho is dead. There's nothing left to blame except his parents and the guns. I don't think he played video games, so they can't blame that. All they can do is say "Look, he used a gun, let's enact more gun laws to keep this from happening again". What they're all failing to recognize is that they may not be able to keep this from happening again. All you can really do is prepare yourself for the worst and hope it doesn't happen again.
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#283076
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283076/action/topic#283076
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Denial of the Holocaust may be stupid but I don't find anything legaly wrong with it and would that be considered hate speach? If the pictures and the documents don't do it for you, think for yourself. Also would the documents that were made after the human expiramentation be used as scientific evidence or proof now days? I mean could you throw away evidence like that?


Most countries wouldn't find anything legally wrong with it either. Again, look at it from Germany's point of view. They started two world wars. Their economy was in shambles after both. They were a divided country for some 40 years. Basically, if they have to make some things illegal (shouting "Heil Hitler!", raising their hand in that salute, showing Nazi symbology, the list goes on and on) in order to prevent that from happening again, they're going to do it.

20/20 (I think) did a report on some of those laws years ago. They showed a group of guys in a truck driving through a town shouting "Heil Hitler!" and doing the salute. The people in the town shot at them. No one in that country wants that to happen again...EVER. That is why they have such restrictive laws regarding that stuff. It was not only a terrible time in their history, it was a terrible time in World History.
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#283070
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283070/action/topic#283070
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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Originally posted by: lordjedi
Arnie: It depends on how you define killed. Yes, there are a lot of gun deaths each day. There are suicides, murders, accidents, self defense, and others. Millions of lives are saved each year through self defense uses of firearms. Hundreds or thousands are killed each year by suicide and murder. But if they didn't have a gun, they'd just use a different weapon, like a bat, crowbar, knife, or whatever else they could get their hands on.

Example: in 2005 there were 14.860 homicides in the US (got this from wikipedia). In 68% of the cases firearms were used (14.860 x 0.68)/365=27.68 deaths every day. That does not include suicide etc.
How many people do you think Cho Seung-Hui could have killed if he only had a crowbar, a bat or a knife? Fact is, killing is much much easier with a gun. If you end up in a fight and you get out of control people a more likely to get killed if you have access to a gun than other weapons like bats, crowbars and knifes.


How many of those were self-defense? How many were gang shootings? I think anyone that's skilled with a weapon can take out a lot of people. So ban the gun and he'll use a sword or long knife. Or maybe he'll just use his car. Or even a bomb. And even if you ban the gun, that's not going to stop him from breaking the law in order to get a gun. The point is, if he really wants to kill people, he's going to figure out a way to do it.

I don't really feel like looking up statistics right now, but I can assure you that firearms are used in self-defense far more than they're used for crime.

BTW, there were 16,972 alcohol related traffic deaths in 2005. Source NHTSA. That's out of a total of 43,200. So there were 118 vehicle related fatalities per day and of those 46 were alcohol related. Well, since the number of vehicle deaths is more than 4 times as great as gun deaths, I think it's time we ban cars. Afterall, if that many people are dying everyday, they're nothing but killing machines.
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#283063
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283063/action/topic#283063
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Originally posted by: Rob
Originally posted by: lordjedi
Originally posted by: C3PX
I like how the European articles complained about machine guns being legal in America, when this guy didn't even have one.


And machine guns have been illegal in America since sometime in the 70's. The other semi-automatic rifles that you might see from time to time are just that, semi-automatic.

There's a shooting range in Nevada (near Las Vegas) where you can shoot an Uzi, but to my knowledge, you can't own an Uzi in any state. I may be wrong on that though, living in California tends to make one think that anything "bad" is banned everywhere.


Yeah, you're completely wrong. In most other states you just need the proper transfer fees and other requirements to own an automatic weapon. You dipshits from California seem to have a tendency to provide information based more on the goings on in your own ridiculous state than actual facts.


Way to be an asshole. We're not dipshits, we just live under mostly totalitarian gun control laws.

Since you fail to mention the "other requirements" and almost seem to treat it lightly, here's some links to Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

The second one is more important since it shows exactly what is required to own an automatic weapon. It's not exactly an easy process. It requires extensive background checks, high fees ($200), photographs, fingerprints, written permission from the ATF before moving the weapon across state lines. In other words, unless you're a firearms collector, you probably aren't going to own any automatic weapons. It's a major pain in the ass and it's not worth it to most people.

So yeah, I was wrong (I said I might be), but that doesn't change the fact that it's not easy to own an automatic weapon in any state.
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#283061
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283061/action/topic#283061
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Originally posted by: Arnie.d
32 people killed by the same person is indeed a lot, but isn't 32 about the average number of people that are killed every single day by guns in the US?


Americans sure are irresponsible with guns, one reason why I support gun control. Why does any one watch Fox News? It is just about the most baised of news channels.


Riiight, that'll fix it. So the person is irresponsible, yet we should ban the gun? Why not jail the person? When someone is caught with a DUI, they don't ban the car, they fine the person or send them to jail. Why are guns different? More people die each year in drunk driving related accidents than by guns. That's a fact.

You know what else is a fact? The punishment for a felon to even touch a firearm is an automatic 25 years to life prison sentence. That means that if you're a felon and you even handle a gun, you're suppose to go to jail. So you'd think that if a felon walks into a gun store, handles some firearms, and then fills out the background check that they'd prosecute them. You'd be wrong. In states that have waiting periods, the buyer is simply turned down. In states that have instant checks, I don't even think there's been a case of a known criminal trying to purchase a gun (at least none I've read about). It would be pretty stupid for a felon to walk into a gun store in Arizona and attempt to buy a gun, especially since all the employees are usually armed.

Arnie: It depends on how you define killed. Yes, there are a lot of gun deaths each day. There are suicides, murders, accidents, self defense, and others. Millions of lives are saved each year through self defense uses of firearms. Hundreds or thousands are killed each year by suicide and murder. But if they didn't have a gun, they'd just use a different weapon, like a bat, crowbar, knife, or whatever else they could get their hands on.

Fox News is no less biased than CNN or any other local news channel. I sometimes find I have to get my news from 3 or 4 different places in order to get all the facts. Local news and CNN both have a tendency to leave out key details. Fox News does it as well sometimes, which is why I get news from other sources as well.

Just because you don't want to use your rights to defend yourself and your family, don't remove mine. If you don't like guns and don't want them around or want to be around them, fine. But don't try to take mine away.

EDIT: Regarding laws in Germany, even I agree with most of those laws. This is a country that tried to take over the world twice. Therefore a lot of things people can do in other countries are outright banned there. It's not because they're a "police state", it's because they don't even want to take a chance of history repeating itself...again.
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#282941
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/282941/action/topic#282941
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
I don't think they represent the religion it's that how fuck up some of these people are. I guess I worded that post wrong. And then there is hate against atheist and alike people. I don't really have a problem with religion just when it gets in the way with peoples politics.


Whoa, what? How does that blog have anything to do with politics?
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#282940
Topic
Virginia Tech shooting
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/282940/action/topic#282940
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Also this http://feelgoodbible.blogspot.com/2007/04/gods-will-virginia-tech-shootings.html The reason why I'm not fond of religion.


And that's why I'm not fond of people twisting the Bible to meet their definition of God. I will say this much about it though. Did God know it would happen? Yes, that's why he's omnipotent. Was he going to stop it? No, we have free will.

That website is right about one thing. Perhaps if he had some God in his life, he wouldn't have done this. Maybe he did have God in his life and sought to eliminate what he saw as sinners. Lord knows I've seen enough lying, cheating, and stealing in my lifetime (I'm only 32) that I want to completely stop interacting with people outside of my circle of friends. That's another story though.

Anyway, here's what I came in to post originally. From wnd.com:

"The shooter was "wearing a vest covered in clips was just unloading on their door, going from classroom to classroom ... they said it never seemed like it was going to stop and there was just blood all over," Harrison said.

The shooter had two handguns and several clips of ammunition, according to NBC News. Flinchum confirmed an earlier report that the shooter chained the doors of a classroom to make it almost impossible for the students to escape. "

So it looks like he had plenty of ammo. Also:

"A note found in Cho's dorm room railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on campus."

What he really needed was some time to tune everything out. I personally have had instances where I was sick of humanity and wished the world would end tomorrow. It's mostly with politicians, but I know of other people who are just as sickening or make horrible decisions throughout their life. The point is that this kid pretty much just snapped and took a bunch of people out. To say that God wanted them dead is to twist the Bible. To say that God knew they would die is much more accurate. That, however, does nothing about the situation.