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joshuabri

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#1386638
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Chronological Marvel (No Spiderman Spoilers, Yes Endgame Spoilers)
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Thanks for the offer, but as I mentioned earlier, I don’t really have a way of sharing the finished product. I acknowledge that this is just going to be a fun way to marathon the movies with my friends and family. Once I found this thread, I just wanted to share that I was working on this too. I am over halfway done already (13 out of 23 movies combined so far) and I enjoy the editing, so I am going to keep at it and will probably finish it up early in the new year.

You are right about the MCU being held together by a thread. I think when you look at all of the movies, there is evidence directly dating the original Iron Man to each year from 2007 through 2010 or something like that. There is definitely a significant degree of judgement on what gets counted, what is ignored (I think everyone ignores the 8 years later at the beginning of Spider-Man: Homecoming), do you massage this number or that number to make something work, etc. I am putting everything in according to the wiki timeline right now. Once it’s all in, I will go through and see if it makes sense to me to switch any scenes around.

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#1385160
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Chronological Marvel (No Spiderman Spoilers, Yes Endgame Spoilers)
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After doing some work this weekend, I have to take back what I said about them being nearly identical. I have found numerous inconsistencies, and generally speaking, comicboard.com always seems to be the one that doesn’t make any sense.

It has the molecular disequilibrium flashback dated as 2004. Ant-Man & the Wasp cannot take place any later than 2018. The actresses portraying Ghost were 28 and 7 at the time of filming (note also that child actresses are usually older than the character they are supposed to be portraying). Foster’s character was de-aged to how Laurence Fishburn looked circa 1991. With no other hard dating evidence, this gives a realistic date range of 1991 to 1997 to work with. So where did 2004 come from?

Fury’s Big Week doesn’t make any sense. The news reports on Hulk’s rampage at Culver University in Iron Man 2 before it ever happens. Likewise, Fury says he has more important things in the Southwest before anything has happened there.

As much nonsense as I have to wade through on the Marvel wiki, I am going to stick with that.

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#1384282
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Chronological Marvel (No Spiderman Spoilers, Yes Endgame Spoilers)
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I have my doubts the comicboard.com site does more precise research. I haven’t looked at it enough to see how much dedication they put in, but I have seen the pages upon pages of data analysis and calculations the wiki puts in to calculate a single date. As a physicist, I can say some of the people involved have to be mathematicians. However, from a readability and usability standpoint, the comicboard site is 1000 times better and with using for that alone. The wiki concerns itself with every little event in the MCU’s history, no matter how small or obliquely referenced, nor are there any timestamp references. From what little I’ve looked at, they are in nearly perfect agreement anyway, so I wonder if the same people are involved in both. Although the comicboard site has ??? sometimes where the wiki has dates, or at least approximate dates.

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#1383956
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Chronological Marvel (No Spiderman Spoilers, Yes Endgame Spoilers)
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There’s been no activity on this thread for over a year, but I’ll add my two cents here. I too am working on a chronological MCU edit including all films, one-shots, deleted/extended scenes (insofar as they do not contradict the film narrative and have reasonably finished effects) and any useable bonus content on the Blu-rays. The idea is to present it as a single chronological 40+ hour film, so I will not be doing any side-by-side for simultaneous scenes. For differing perspectives of the same scene, e.g. All Hail the King’s main narrative’s Trevor Slattery viewpoint and the credits’ Justin Hammer viewpoint, I am using the selections that present the most engaging cinematic narrative and cutting the duplicates. For disparate scenes, I will simply put one after the other in the order that makes most sense, e.g. after Odin pushes Thor into the Bifrost, it cuts to to Jane, Selvig, and Darcy in New Mexico at the beginning of the movie until the Bifrost reaches Earth. In presenting this as a cinematic experience, I am also narrative focused to an extent. The time travel elements from Endgame will be placed in the 2023 segment because that is the character’s present and it avoids contradictions in the original timeline. The few new bits unrelated to time travel will be placed in their original times, e.g. Hulk having to take the stairs.

I have been debating whether or not to include date stamps. I am using https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline as my timeline reference. There is a lot of contradictory date information in the movies and supplemental material - this wiki analyzes it all and applies ranges and weighting factors to come up with the best fits.

As far as the shows go, my rule is I have to own the content on disc to include it. I currently don’t own or have any intention of buying any show seasons. I do, however, have season 1 of a few different shows on my Amazon Wishlist as gift ideas for my family. If I ever receive any, I will include those and consider purchasing season 2. I have no expectation of ever including all of Agents of Shield. I feel like around the time of the Framework, the show really started to go off the rails and lost what little connection it had to the rest of the MCU.

Unfortunately, I don’t really see how I can share the results of my work (I’m about half-way through currently) as I don’t want to have to continually pay for the cloud space to host this much HD video.

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#1382218
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A Palpatine-less Edit of The Rise of Skywalker (Released)
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Thanks. I’m glad you enjoyed it. There is a spot or two that I’ve since realized better ways to edit them to be less choppy, but not enough yet to warrant doing another version.

I was very concerned about using “Duel of the Fates” as the title. I really didn’t like taking Trevorrow’s title, but I felt it fit this edit very well. In the end serving this edit seemed most important.

I understand what you mean about the end. I didn’t want to lose the Luke island scene entirely, so I had to stick it in after the climax. I originally considered using a very truncated version of the scene as a Force vision Rey had after stabbing Kylo, but before she tells him she wanted to take Ben’s hand. That didn’t work well, so I just let it play out afterward. I felt the film was better with it at the end rather than not at all. I knew an edit this radical was going to have some compromises. I was expecting to have to make a lot more than I did.

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#1360698
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A Palpatine-less Edit of The Rise of Skywalker (Released)
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Rather than PM everyone with a link they already have, I’m just going to be lazy and post this here in hopes that most people see it.

The updated 20GB full Blu-Ray quality V2 is now up with correct 5.1 surround sound. I replaced the previous version, so the existing link I sent earlier will still direct you to it. It’s uploaded, but Google Drive is still processing it, so you may not be able to view it for a little while yet.

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#1359471
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A Palpatine-less Edit of The Rise of Skywalker (Released)
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It seems it may have only rendered the surround channels. This is something difficult for me to diagnose as my computer refuses to downmix surround sound to stereo for some reason, i.e. when I watch a Blu-Ray or file with surround sound, I only get the front surround speakers. I always have to select the 2.0 audio option. If I can’t figure this out, I may have to render it in stereo instead of 5.1.

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#1358884
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A Palpatine-less Edit of The Rise of Skywalker (Released)
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Version 2 is finished at long last. It seems like there was always something else that needed to be done, but I’m finally ready to put this to rest, for now anyway. It is rendering now. I will upload it to Google Drive tomorrow.

I wasn’t able to manufacture dialogue for Leia. She only says “Poe” twice throughout the entire trilogy and I just couldn’t get it to match up to the other dialogue. So it just has Poe’s added dialogue to indicate that they got called back to base.

I had cut the orbaks (space horses) since they pretty much disappear after the first three or so shots of them riding out of the lander, but you still occasionally see one run across in the background of shots I wanted to keep, so I figured it was best to keep them.

I also considered adding in Rey having killed her parents as a child, a la IlFanEditore’s edit, but I didn’t see any way to pull it off like I wanted.

If any important new developments are made by others, I may revisit this for a version 3, like if someone replaces Rey burying Luke’s and Leia’s lightsabers with Rey building her own.

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#1357860
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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idir_hh said:

skenera said:

Unfortunately, blue lightsabers and blue lightning become white.

Maybe those could be masked individually?

This could definitely be done, although it would take quite a bit of work to do it for every lightsaber shot throughout, especially if other things need to be masked out of the color adjustment as well.

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#1356125
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Sequel Trilogy (Special Edition + StormPilot) (v2 Released)
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Looking over your cutlist and watching your samples, I think this is one of the cleanest looking trilogy edits I’ve seen proposed. It’s focused and not overly ambitious.

I really like that you moved the arrival at Ahch-To to the beginning of TLJ. From the first time I watched TFA, I thought the hyperspace jump was the natural place to end the movie. I feel the rest of it was tacked on to shoehorn Mark Hamill in for marketing. If I ever do a full trilogy edit, this would be a must for me.

The only edit I’m not too sure about is the delay of Chewie’s reveal in TRoS. I feel like a fair amount has happened in the movie by that point, so why are Hux and Pryde only getting to Chewie now?

I also agree that Hal’s structural changes would be ideal. It doesn’t change the story, it just helps it flow better while reducing the feel of copying ANH.

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#1355113
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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To go back to earlier, I think making Jannah be Finn’s sister (and not Lando’s daughter) would be the the type of relationship reveal that would benefit this movie, if it were doable, which I highly doubt.

Anyway, has anyone successfully implemented the Rey killed her parents angle? The FX work is beyond my ability, but if someone has done it, I’d be interested in borrowing it for my edit.

Also, is the trailer footage officially available anywhere? They’re not on the Blu-Ray and Disney+ doesn’t let you download extras. Granted there’s only a couple seconds of footage not in the finished film.

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#1352108
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A Palpatine-less Edit of The Rise of Skywalker (Released)
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fidodido said:

How is your V2 coming along?

As of earlier this week, the “workprint” of V2 is done, meaning all of the cuts and restructuring has been done. I still have to spend 2 hours to sit through it looking at it with a big-picture-view to see if anything isn’t working as it should, where transitions need to be improved, and if I need to adjust the placement of any scenes. The major hurdles still to be overcome are 1) manufacturing new dialogue to clear up some plot changes. This has proven harder than I anticipated and I don’t expect to have this ready for a while yet. 2) I’m still waiting for an FX shot that someone agreed to do for me.

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#1352014
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A Palpatine-less Edit of The Rise of Skywalker (Released)
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Here is the revised Ahch-To scene. I am still working on some of the transitions, but this is how it plays out in my version. I’m still not sure about the line “If you don’t face Palpatine, it will mean the end of the Jedi.” If I can’t get it a little better, I might take that line out.

https://vimeo.com/425828845

I haven’t decided the exact placement yet, but it will be either right after Lando and Chewie rescue Finn and Jannah from the crashing Destroyer or just before the return to Ajan Kloss for the victory celebration. I currently have it situated after Finn and Jannah’s rescue.