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#56693
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Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (official)
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Originally posted by: R2
I see where you're coming from with that. And it does make perfect temporal sense. So, logically, how was the story carried on after the second film? Besides John, what piece of future technology survived in order for the machines to rise? Something tells me that it's not going to be very plausible.

The whole Terminator series is one big paradox after another. That's why I gave up on it after the second one. For me, they changed the future. Judgement Day never happend. End of story. But that's just the way I see it.

That and I just couldn't bear to see the series go down the tubes the way that Alien did. Two Terminators were enough for me. Same with Alien. Should have stopped with the second one.

Also, this has gotten way off topic. LOL!


I agree it has gotton off topic but I just have to say if you haven't seen Terminator 3 how can you come to such a radical conclusion. The moral of Terminator 3 is we are a bunch of worthless insects and are pittiful fighting can only delay the inevidible. This is a message I live by.
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#56672
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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Originally posted by: Spyder X<br

The quality of those cleaned up shots (not the changed ones, just the ones with cleaned up picture quality) is making me drool. That's some extremely good quality.

If only the originals were included! Why did Lucas have to leave them out? Why, why, why? I'm seriously fighting the temptation to buy these DVDs. I must resist! They look so tempting. Really my only problem with them are that they're the new versions. The cleaned up quality, all those bonus features, etc. all make me want to get these. I wanna see the movies in ultra high quality (if only they were the originals!) and I wanna hear the commentaries for all of them and get to see all those extra features. But I'm still fighting against it. Somebody help me resist temptation!


You must give in and by these DVDs. It is your destiny
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#56670
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Originally posted by: die-jarjar-die
Jeremy Bulloch did not provide the voice for Boba Fett in ESB. I can't remember the name of the actor that did, it wa sin an issue of the UK Official Star Wars magazine dedicated to all things bounty hunter, unfortunately I threw it away when moving

However, JB DOES appear on screen & unmasked in ESB...............he plays the Imperial Officer that is attempting to drag Leia into the elevator whilst she is screaming at Luke that it's a trap! Cunning eh?


If thats true he is not completly earsed from the movie.
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#56594
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Originally posted by: Galahad_Skywalker<br
I didn't think that was Bulloch doing the voice of Fett, but I heard somewhere that it was, and I don't know why I believed it, because the voice was totally devoid of British accentation. But anyway, according to the IMDB, Wingreen's still alive as well; maybe we should form a Revill/Wingreen support group, since they've both been completely hacked out of the trilogy for all time.


Yeah but by that logic that fat Irish actor who was in the Jabba scene has been getting a raw deal since the beginning.
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#56591
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Originally posted by: R2
LOL! Jar Jar love scenes. Eeewww!

Yeah, the title The Phanotm Menace is lame. I mean, I get who and what the menace is, but it still comes off sort of lame. The menace was obviously Darth Sidious and the Sith/Darkside. To me the real menace was Jar Jar.


Phantom Menace implys a menace that its a mystery. Sidious is the Phantom Menace. He is threatening the Republic.
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#56491
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Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (official)
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Originally posted by: R2
Whoshew! For a second there I thought you were gonna say the new Apes movie was the best. I hated the new one. Total mind rot. The apes looked great but the whole thing just stunk. In my opinion. For me, there was really no good reason to remake that movie. The original was and will always be the best. I will say that neither film folows the book that closely. However, at least the original had characters that were in the book. Not one character in the new film was ever mentioned in the book. Burton really messed that movie up.

As for T2. It doesn't matter which version you see, they still kill Miles, blow up Skynet and destroy all of the Terminator chips. Therefore, logically, how can the machines rise? All traces of them have been destroyed. The only logical way for this to happen is if someone went back in time to before Miles was killed and stole the chip that Skynet had from the original Terminator. Now if that happened, then maybe, I could buy the story of T3. However, by traveling back in time to steal the original Terminator chip then that pretty much negates the events of T2. Sarrah's whole quest to stop Skynet in T2 becomes a mute point.

Also by your logic, if the future is unchangable, then why did they send the Terminator back in time to kill Sarah in the first place? If the future is unchangable then with or without Kyle's involvement or the Terminator's, John was going to be born and therefore become the leader of the human resistance. It didn't matter how many Terminator's went back in time to kill Sarrah or John, they were going to live to fulfill their destiny.

The future is the past. The past is the future. The whole thing gives me a headache.


Skynet thought like you. They believed it could be changed so did John which is why he sent Kyle back. He knew Kyle was his father when he sent him back. Also if Judgement Day had been stoped then John and both Terminators would have vanished the second Skynet was destroyed. No skynet means no Kyle, no Kyle means no John. The fact that John didn't vanish means that Judgement Day still is going to happen. John and Skynet are connected to each other. Neither can live without the other and both destroy each other at the same time. If John never sent Kyle back then John would have never excisted. Its called fate. No fate is a lie. Or at least in the first and third movie it is.
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#56489
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Originally posted by: alexborn007
I was ok with the McDiarmid change until it became apparent that they changed the dialogue. Too apparent.

This is sad. I understand the continuity thing, but why destroy the creepiness of the scene?!?!?! The original, even in the SE was a chilling scene. Now, it just points out things the Emperor would obviously know since he's in cahootz with Vader. Good bye poignancy.

I was actually tempted to buy the set once I heard the scream had been taken out. That was a nice day...

"Vader: The son of Skywalker must not become a jedi..."


The scream has been taken out. Really I never really disliked this change so I am also neutral towards it being taken out. Still it will appear to those who disliked it so I am happy its gone. I personally like the Emperor change. It does enhance the scene but it is a bit unfair to Clive Revill. I guess this is what this site is for right.
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#56474
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The original Planet of the Apes. I enjoy the remake for dumb action and Thade is a great villian but the polictal dialog of the original is very thought provoking. My favorite Apes movie is Conquest of the Planet of the Apes. Also no they didn't prevent Judgement Day. That ending was deleted. Frankly if that ending had been kept Terminator 2 would have been a total suck fest. That was the worst ending to any movie. I am so glad it was deleted. In the first Terminator movie we see that the future is completly unchangable. Everything in Terminator 1 shows that the Terminator was always there in 1984 and that nothing was changed

John Connors conceivement
Sarahs picture
The chip in the lab

It all shows that nothing can be changed. The worst thing about Terminator 2 was how it fucked with the first movies views to try to create a happy lame ass ending. Terminator 3 returns to the first movies views. Judgement Day is enevible. Humanity will fall. The machines will rise.
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#56466
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Originally posted by: miochza
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Originally posted by:

I thought T3 was terrible compared to T2. The plot just seemed generic and done before. You like recent movies alot better than older ones don't you, jimbo?


No Terminator 1 is by far my favorite of the series. I could have liked Terminator 2 had it made any sense at all. Terminator 3s only problem is it carrys over some of Terminator 2s flaws. For example Arnold kills no one. He is the friggin Terminator he needs to kill. One of the biggest flaws of Terminator 2 was the fact Arnold was too human, too emotional, and had to take orders from some punk. In the third he is still the good guy but it less emotional and doesn't take orders. He acts alot more like a machine like he should have acted in Terminator 2. Still he was best as the villian. Though the worst thing about Terminator 2 was how it fucked with the first movies view on time travel. In Terminator 1 time travel is a circle of inevidibility. In Terminator 2 its a branching butterfly effect where things can be altered (either that or Kyle and the Terminator were lying). Terminator 3 appears to return to the first movies views on time travel which was a welcome plus. Also the T-1000 is scientifically possible. It mentions the T-1000 can't form complex machines. Yet he can see, hear, and talk. All of these require complex moving parts. I enjoyed the T-X more since its endoskeleton makes her far far more possible. Though it still makes no sense how either of them got through time. Also Terminator 3s got Kristanna Loken. Possibly the sexiest women alive. Who can forget her entrance from the time displacement equitment.
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#56459
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Originally posted by: miochza
Well, rik, alot of fans already had Revenge of the Sith in their minds for a while, it just hadn't been confirmed. So Lucas very well could have went online to find a title that his fans would like. Wait, that seems uncharacteristic of Lucas. Do something to please his fans? Nevermind then.


Lucas doesn't do things just because fans want it. Its called Revenge of the Sith because that is the best title for the movie. So was Attack of the Clones. Also Bossk I suggest seeing Terminator 3 its definutly better then the second part.
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#56418
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
sorry jimbo gotta just totally disagree with everything you said...
especially about T3....

id hate to see your movie collection if you honestly think its better than T2...


The first Terminator movie was a masterpiece. It is my favorite movie of the 80s. One of my favorite movies of all time. In my opinion Terminator 2 is vastly inferior. While it is much bigger bigger doesn't always mean better. The movie makes no sense. T-1000 is scientifically impossible, John was a whinny brat, its way to politically correct, and it fucks with the first movies theroys on time travel. Its a movie thats fun but its better the less you think about it. Terminator 3 is also inferior to the original and repeats some of Terminator 2s many flaws. Still it has such a great ending, nonstop action, Kristanna Loken, and returns to the first movies theroys on time travel make it overall better then Terminator 2.
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#56338
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
Return of the Jeid is better then Attack of the Clones...

and Terminator 3 already sucked...
nothing they could have done in the end would have saved that movie...

they should have left that movie to Cameron or just left it alone period...


Terminator 3 was superior to Terminator 2 but it didn't live up to the original. Also Cameron didn't want to return. He said no mulitple times. Terminator 2 had no conclusion therefore you can't just leave it alone. It would be The Two Towers without ever making Return of the King. Who can forget Return of the Jedis view on Imperial fighting

Attack of the Clones - Clones wipe out droid army
A New Hope - Clones take over Leias ship in minutes
The Empire Strikes Back - They take Cloud City in a matter of hours
Return of the Jedi - Loose to teddy bears with sticks

Empire Strikes Back was great. Its a true classic. Attack of the Clones did everything right by following The Empires Strikes Backs influence. Keeping the same feel and story that made that movie so good but making it bigger and more exciting.
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#56336
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Mark Hamill in Ireland Online Interview
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Originally posted by: R2
FYI. Jimbo.

Lucas has done the following things besides Star Wars.

THX 1138
American Grafitti
More American Grafitti (made a whole .10 on it)
Howard The Duck (faired a little better. Made a whole quarter)
Willow
Indiana Jones Trilogy (as producer)
The Young Indiana Jones series (don't know if he directed or not since I never saw one episode of the show)

Well, that's all I can remember at the moment.


Yeah but its Star Wars he will be remembered for after he dies. I also love the Indiana Jones franchise. Personally I believe Speilburg and Lucas are equally responsible for that movies brilliance.