jerryshadoe

101_303 said:

jerryshadoe said:

Wasn't claiming to be your friend, but that I got the WORKPRINT audio from a special friend.

You wouldn't happen to have the workprint video as well? ;P

I Wish I did :(

I was lucky enough to get the audio split between 3 audio CD's from a friend of mine a few years ago that actually worked on the movie. It's funny that you ask about the workprint video, because to a degree the "Z" VCD screener (released back in 99) was just that due to the fact that it was full screen instead of widescreen is a workprint video. there is proof for this made by space_ranger at this link http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Matrix-35mm/topic/16098/page/4/

that VCD release is also on myspleen (although I'm working on re-mastering the video a little bit right now, already have the sound fixed - there will be two audio track once i release it; one- the VCD audio which appears to be compete 2.0 and a synced WORKPRINT audio track as well with samples of differences between source and re-master)

reason for dualaudio is that back then there was also a "Z" release but NOT in VCD format, but in .asf which contained same video as VCD (although at much lower bitrate) and workprint audio. remember it very specifically because I use to sit around with all my friends watching the movie outputted on a s-vhs cable from pc to tv and all of us laughing that the audio was unfinished. it contained dialog and sound effects, as well as most background music, but was missing all foreground music and songs to the point that when trinity is sneaking up on neo in the club (at beginning of movie) you could hear her footsteps, people conversating in background, the flicker of the zippo lighter but no club music. It was an awesome way to experience the matrix the first time before any of us ended up seeing it at the theater.  anyway, nostalgia is settling in and i'm rambling now LOL

Anyone that's interested, the re-mastered english studio WORKPRINT audio (in flac and ac3) as well as the re-mastered English Cinema DTS track (both synced for this spoRv BD-25 release, are available on myspleen with extensive details as to why they were re-mastered ;)

just look for Matrix WORKPRINT and you'll find it.

peace, jerry shadoe

Ok so when watching this br'er edition, it appeared as if the tint was "flickering" from warm to cold to warm to cold etc...
I demuxed the video track from the dvd and opened it in avidemux. The source video on this edition is at 23.976fps and that's what I will be basing the frame numbers by. I realized that the "flickering" effect is a trick that the eyes play when watching a video, in the fact that the differences are usually not from one frame to the next, but gradual and take about 8-10 frames to notice, so when I started skipping a few frames ahead at a time, the differences became extremely noticeable. Here is a breakdown of 20 different frames and differences. Trust me - when you look at like this, they become very apparent.

frame 5119: colors appear to be "balanced"

frame 5134: just a few frames later it looks to have a blue tint (especially noticeable in the mans face) wondering if that has to do with the way the background was processed in during filter stage

frame 5162: colors, as well as blacks/white appear "ok"

frame 5174: now the image is a little more vibrant but appears to be slightly too bright

frame 5189: appears to go back to the way frame 5162 was

frame 5416: overall the whole image looks like there is too much magenta

frame 5431: image appears to be more vibrant, look at how rich the yellow is in the head piece compare to frame 5416

frame 5662: frame looks "warm" and his face looks "ok"

frame 5671: frame looks "cool" where you can see his face has a hint of blue to it

frame 7254: the whole frame appears "warm" pay close attention to the pink tones in the little black boys shirt and white boys warm color face

frame 7267: the whole frame appears "cool" look at how much of the rose is gone in little black boys shirt and white boys face appears cool now, as if the whole image has a blue tint to it and the blue outfit in middle sticks out more

frame 7281: now it appears even cooler, with even more blue tint to whole image

frame 7295: going back towards what frame 7267 was

frame 7309: appears to go back to the "warm" look it had in frame 7254

frame 7848: look at the "white" door and frame which appears to be a purple/blue tint

frame 7863: now the door actually appears to be a "white" (not true but much closer)


the next four frames pay close attention to how the "purple" hat changes from warm reddish purple, to plain purple, to bluish purple, back to warm purple

frame 8557: initial "warm"

frame 8572: kinda plain purple now

frame 8585: her hat now appears a blueish purple and it noticeable in his face too, also the door in background appears a blueish white

frame 8599: back to a warm color, similar to 8557, where the door in background is darker and appears more orange/brown

there are so many more examples of this throughout the whole movie that these 20 from first 6 minutes of movie should be enough to demonstrate my point. I have to mention that I noticed this ONLY in live action sequences, NONE of the animated or animated/live action (mixed) sequences suffer from this issue. Hope I didn't go overboard LOL - Peace, Jerry Shadoe

WOW!!! I'm fairly new on these forums and have been looking at all the projects and this one caught my eye because I have been a huge fan of this movie since the first time a saw it when it was a PAL VHS to NTSC conversion that a friend of mine duped and gave me. This was back in the 90s and I think it's awful that Disney won't give this a proper release. All of you on here that have put in so much work into this project are awesome for taking this preservation upon yourselves. Amazing how people from all over the planet can unite to get something done. Kudos! Patiently waiting to see what results you end up with in the final stage. Looks very promising from what I've seen in these 32 pages (took me almost 4 hours to read it all LOL)

Was wondering something about the coloring and am wondering if any of you have an answer ( I do some editing but what you guys are doing here is a little above my expertise ) So I downloaded the Br'er Preservation Edition and noticed that in certain live action scenes the color switched tint from too green to too blue between certain frames in the same scene. Now the question that I have is whether this is cause by fault encoding, fault editing (as in plugin settings) faulty source (BBC aired) or is the original source (as in the 16mm or 35mm transfers) faulty in this way too?

If necessary, I can do some screen caps to illustrate what I mean.

Anyway, thanx for all the hard work and look forward to seeing all the development on this project (on side note, if anyone needs help with any sound restoration, I do a lot of sound re-mastering as a hobby for 12 years now)

Peace,

Jerry Shadoe

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101_303 said:

I have to assume this is on myspleen. Since apparently there's no way to get access there for us mere mortals (hint: help a brother out!) I could only locate and download "The.Matrix.Restored.Theatrical.Colors.Edition.1999.720p.BDRip.MULTIAUDIO.x264.DTS.AC3.Shadoe" which is a re-encode.

You know what? I'm happy my work is spread over the net; at the same time, it's sad that someone (me) worked to a project like this for months, and someone else "stole" its work without tell him something, or at least leave the project's original name inside the new re-encoded file... Yes, this is a free project open to all, but a simple "thematrixwhateverdescription[spoR].reencoded.by.Shadoe" will be better... as he's claiming he's my friend... who's "Shadoe"?!? If you are a forum member, please just p.m. me, so we could talk about it - don't worry, I just want some credits, not only for me, but also for the other members that helped me here, and in the other projects, as I suspect they maybe are aroud, too...

My observation is almost every time there's a "flash" (lighting, gunfire etc) that there are artifacts.

You are right; I wrote about it several times in this thread, and when this "flashes" are only 1 frame long, usually nobody will note it, and I left them there, as they are not so noticeable... but, of course, it will be better to have no artifacts at all... this is why I'd like to make a 2.0 version.

Wasn't claiming to be your friend, but that I got the WORKPRINT audio from a special friend. Also, I apologize for not including your original info in the torrent description (which after our PM session, has already been fixed)

As Andrea already knows, I'm working on re-mastering the WORKPRINT audio and the Cinema DTS track as well (it's clipped pretty bad) using Diamond Cut DC Audio Forensics8.

Very nice thread here, BTW, and props to all that have put in some much hard work into this project (as well as others I've seen on these forums.) Am extremely happy that there are people that care about preserving somethings in the right way, instead of the crappy commercial releases.

Peace,

Jerry Shadoe

really like the first few minutes you posted. IMHO the transition from one logo to the next is a little off music-wise, but then again that doesn't really matter. also, the transition from nero to kirk riding his bike is a little weird sound-wise (seemed a little rough to me). But other than that, I like what I saw so far. Are you still working on this hybrid or is it a dead project now?