So this is now released on myinteralorgan, LOL...
I'm sure you guys know what I mean about a spleen...
Enjoy ;)
well, I got the audio and, long story short, it was horrible quality but I was able to fix it (to the extent that it could be done, as I have been doing audio restoration for a long time, [and those of you that have any experience with audio know this too] your end result is only as good as the source, so if certain audio is literally missing you can't create something out of nothing, but certain tricks can be played). the audio was EXTREMELY muffled, completely lacked fidelity, and was noisy as hell. I was able to restore some of the fidelity, completely fixed (and brought out a clean, well as clean as possible, vocal), and cleaned some of the noise (I had to find a "happy" medium between how "clean" the vocals were and the level of noise, where I tried to match it to the level of noise that is present on the audio of the actual DVD release) then I mixed it into the DVD audio and the final result is really nice. the transition is very slightly noticeable (as the audio sources are different and there is only so much you can do) but not distracting and now the lips stay in sync with the audio. overall, I would give the audio an 8.5 in comparison to the DVD audio, which isn't all that great either. This still is NOT the long story, LOL ;)
Anyway, as typical with many Disney PAL releases, the conversion was done incorrectly and the video actually has an NTSC duration, and this made it easy to sync the audio because I didn't have to do any speed adjustments :)
I have sent a more detailed PM to jade88 and am now waiting on response of what to do with finalized file, as this was her idea and I don't want to post someone's project, even if I helped with it... so now we wait ;)
Flexicon9 said:
Just had a chance to watch Electric Dreams in 1080p... man, oh, man. Superb. Never thought it would happen. This is one of those lost '80s films with a great soundtrack that no one remembers but is remarkable. So many thanks to everyone for making this available. If you are an Electric Dreams fan (I must be because I even have the soundtrack on vinyl which I bought in the '80s) don't miss this extraordinary presentation. It may never be released in the U.S. even on DVD much less Blu-ray. The picture and sound are stellar.
It hasn't had an official release in the U.S., but there was an official DVD release in Europe: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electric-Dreams-DVD-Virginia-Madsen/dp/B001QXZ81G
This might be a good source, if you wish to get rid of the mgm hd watermark on that 1080p copy. Just a suggestion, if you end up doing a project for this ;)
You're very welcome. The quality of this one is pretty damn nice too... Enjoy ;)
It does have a mgm hd watermark in the upper-left corner tho, but it's not really distracting. There, apparently, was also an official DVD release.
@ hofverberg - that's what I was planning on doing, was including the LPCM on blu-ray only and on dvd ac3@384kbps for English and 192kbps for all others.
@ALL - I'm hoping to resolve this issue with those troubled episodes that I mentioned in the last post because frame-by-frame correction is going to be time consuming as hell and I hope someone will have an easier suggestion ;)
UPDATE: Thanx to Andrea for verifying whether I'm running my scripts correctly and trying some himself, I now know that these extremely troubled episodes will actually have to be fixed frame-by-frame. NOT a problem, but will be time-consuming for those episodes. Fortunately, it's very few in the whole series.
Flexicon9 said:
Is Electric Dreams out there anywhere? I've been looking for that film for years.
sent you PM for the 1080p HDTV copy ;)
@ hofverberg - So far, there is a total of 5 audio tracks (will be six once I have your Swedish dub rips) and they are English in LPCM (as to not degrade the lossy audio even more by converting back to lossy ) English AC3 (for those that don't care about the audio being re-encoded), Polish AC3, German AC3, Russian AC3. From what I can tell, all English & German episodes are in stereo. Some of the Polish and Russian ones are in stereo and some are mono. All intros/end credits are in stereo.
@ Moth3r - thanx4suggestions about how to encode this and the episodes are all ~22:30. So I guess hofverberg is correct in saying that I should put, roughly, 5 episodes on each DVD.
@ ALL - I have hit, yet another, brick wall when it comes to some episodes from that "problem" batch of episodes. So the SRestore script works wonders on some of those and on some it actually makes them look WORSE. I have tried every single de-interlacer available in avidemux (version 2.5.4 and newest 2.6.8rev2) and every setting possible in the SRestore clip and NOTHING seems to work. If I use the DGbob filter (with each field being a frame, SAME fps, so the slow motion setting) I can see how the script could have problems with some of these. With the TDeint script I get the most usable video that I would have to replace a LOT of frames with from the DGbob filtered encode (but it would be replacing about a third of the frames PER episode)
Was wondering if any of you with more experience could help me figure this one out, so I made a 15 second sample (by remuxing and spliting it using tsmuxer) from the source file of an example of some of the troubled spots and posted it here (contains video ONLY): link removed, PM me if interested in giving this a crack
If ANYONE could help me figure this out, it would be appreciated and help this project move forward. For now, I'm working on the episodes that have no "issues" and will return to the "problem" ones once I know how to go about it. If there is NO easy solution, then I WILL fix those episodes frame-by-frame.
Peace,
Jerry
Ok, so I just want to thank everyone for their support of this project and all the people that have given me technical advice and I hope that I'm not posting too often, but this is my first project, I'm very excited about it, and this also helps me keep a time-line of how this project is moving forward.
The awesome news is that I just finished editing the first "problem" episode. REALLY appreciate the suggestion to use SRestore script, HOWEVER it's NOT an all-in-one solution. I did actually have to "assemble" the video from the two encodes (with the different scripts I mentioned in a post earlier) into one video. First 5 minutes of footage had very little corrections needed (only 11 frames needed fixing) but as the episode moved on, there turned out to be more and more corrections needed. In total, I had to fix/replace/duplicate ~1000 frames (for the whole 22 minutes video containing ~32500 frames) and it was weird because there would be 800 frames fine and then every other frame in a 30 frame stretch would have to be replaced, then fine again for 500 frames and then 50 frame stretch to fix (almost all replaced) so it was an interesting learning experience. The time it took me to complete one of these "problem" episodes (including encoding) was about 16 hours, as opposed to the 6-8 hours it takes me to de-interlace and audio sync the other episodes. So it is more time consuming, but I am happy to say that the video is now 99% clean. The reason for the 99% and not 100%, is because there is still some occasional (very slight, as in just lines) ghosting on frames that were in motion, unique, and couldn't be duplicated from neighboring frame/field as they were the only one there. Overall, the result is very nice and now that I have this figured out, I am very confident that EVERYONE will enjoy this release once it's completed.
I do have a technical question about SRestore that I wasn't able to find an answer for online and was wondering if anyone here would know:
Someone mentioned that animation is at 12fps, so is this why SRestore tries to give me 12 frames (with each one being duplicated to give the 23.976fps) even when there actually is more "unique" frames there? Or is it just my results, because this is the reason I had to correct so many frames because it "ate" some of the unique ones.
Also, if anyone can suggest a solid video bitrate for the DVD set that I'll make out of this, that would help. Don't know if there is a "go-to" "default" bitrate there, as I've had different results with the same bitrate depending on source and encoding software, but I still thought I'd ask.
Thanx4letting my ramble,
Jerry
You're welcome ;)
Personally, I don't care much about the movie (not saying it's a bad movie) and only provided you with info to help you out but I'm sure there are people that would appreciate it.
SIDE-NOTE: rutracker is a gold-mine for HDTV copies of numerous movies (many of which are open matte) in great/decent quality (often, of movies never released on bluray), that usually have pretty solid seeds...
sorry I didn't respond sooner, I passed out with the laptop still in my lap, LOL
So if you search for "gladiator hdtv" on rutracker you will get the 20.2GB version and it works! it's still being seeded real strong - very fast speed, I know because I couldn't find the file on my backup drive (might be on one of the other ones, as I have 5 of them) so I downloaded it and it only took 3 1/2 hours. File looks great, plays all the way and demuxes with tsmuxer without any problem. it is open matte and here is the mediainfo:
General
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : I:\TempVideo\Gladuatar.2000.HDTV.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 20.2 GiB
Duration : 2h 34mn
Overall bit rate : 18.7 Mbps
Video
ID : 17 (0x11)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 2h 33mn
Bit rate : 16.9 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 45.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.340
Stream size : 18.2 GiB (90%)
Writing library : (c) 1998-2005 Womble Multimedia, Inc. / MPEG Video Wizard (09/2005) / Jan 27 2006
Audio #1
ID : 20 (0x14)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2h 34mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -42ms
Stream size : 426 MiB (2%)
Audio #2
ID : 21 (0x15)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2h 33mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -42ms
Stream size : 493 MiB (2%)
Hope this helps you ;)
peace, jerry
Andrea, did you get your release from rutracker? If so, I have copy of it (on backup drive that I can pull out of closet) and can check to see if it plays/demuxes ;)
Ok, wow, that's very stupid too. Can't believe Dis... wait a minute, LOL Of course, I can believe Disney would do something that stupid and it's a damn shame that they screw the fans in this way.
I look forward to seeing that footage, regardless of any short-comings in transfer, as it will still be better than a VHS source. No rush, as that's the last episode of the project anyway ;)
Wait a minute, what? Are you trying to say that you guys weren't able to see it in Swedish (aside from first 11 episodes) until 2005??! That sucks!
WOW! I was not aware of the digital source for the Boo! To you too! episode. The one that I have is very nice, but it is a VHS transfer. If you would consider sharing it, it would be greatly appreciated as it would make this project have digital sources for ALL episodes that way (aside from some title cards/end credits)
Yes, I will be doing a DVD release as well, but am trying to figure out the right bitrate, as the point of this project is to preserve highest quality available for all episodes. When I'm closer to completing my "masters," I'll play around with bitrates and figure that one out. (thanx4offer of help, but unlike bluray, DVD-authoring is something I have lots of experience with) Either way, they will be HUGE releases that will take a while to upload. LOL ;)
@ hofverberg - I offered help on this one too and jade88 sent me the source video and told me that still waiting on the audio. This was a week ago and I haven't heard anything back yet. And yes, you're right, syncing the audio on this will only take a few minutes (unless the audio has to be cleaned first, then it'll take 15 minutes) However, I'm wondering if you have that DVD source of the Three Little Pigs, as the video jade88 sent me is a 640x480 100MB m4v file with a video bitrate at only 1480kbps
If we can get a better video source and if jade88 manages to get me that audio, we could have a "proper" preservation of this awesome cartoon short.
Peace ;)
So, I wonder how many of you laughed your asses off when I said I would do the whole thing "manually?" I started doing that, and after nearly a 1000 corrections within the first 6 (six) minutes of source video and about 8 hours of editing I realized that if I try to correct all the episodes that have problems, doing it like that will take me a few months to complete this if I don't give up from being over-whelmed first...
That being said, I have NEVER used avisynth before and was COMPLETELY CLUELESS about how to go about trying to do the SRestore script on anything. So, thanx2the "magic" of the internet and google, I started to do some research. After about six hours of learning proper syntax, installing all of the proper plugins and filters (and stuff, LOL), updating my avidemux to newest version (as I was using 2.5.4, but newest release from two weeks ago is 2.6.8rev2) and figuring out how to use the avsproxy in avidemux, I can now say that (at least for purposes of this project) I know what I'm doing with avisynth scripts. I figured out the script for the TDeint filter I was using to deinterlace (as before I was using the avidemux gui'ed version) and SRestore is a "God-sent" script. HOWEVER, as stated before, it's NOT perfect. About 95% of the video was cleaned up properly, but there were still some blends (on the first episode that has these issues, as that's how far I got so far) and this is where things get a little weird...
I, STILL, have to make two different encodes from the source file and then edit them in Vegas, as using this script:
FFVideoSource("C:\Users\Jerry Shadoe\Videos\!poohtemp\1x09PALDVD.ts")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Common Files\Common Share\plugins\mt_masktools-26.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Common Files\Common Share\plugins\TDeint.dll")
Import("C:\Program Files\Common Files\Common Share\plugins\Srestore.avsi")
TDeint(mode=0, order=1, field=0, type=1, link=2, mthreshl=6, mthreshc=6, tryweave=false, full=true, sharp=true, denoise=true)
which is basically what I did in the gui'ed version of TDeint in avidemux gives me a mostly blended result (the one I was complaining about earlier) but some of the frames are fine, where SRestore corrected them incorrectly using this script:
FFVideoSource("C:\Users\Jerry Shadoe\Videos\!poohtemp\1x09 Babysitter Blues {DVD} [ENG+sub].ts")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Common Files\Common Share\plugins\mt_masktools-26.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Common Files\Common Share\plugins\TDeint.dll")
Import("C:\Program Files\Common Files\Common Share\plugins\Srestore.avsi")
TDeint(mode=0, order=1, field=0, type=1, link=2, mthreshl=6, mthreshc=6, tryweave=false, full=true, sharp=true, denoise=true)
SRestore(frate=23.976, mode=3)
I played around with the SRestore settings for a couple of hours and this one gave me the best results (by FAR) and now I have to replace a blended frame in the SRestore'd encode with a proper frame from the TDeint encode here and there, BUT in first 5 minutes of video I have only had to fix 11 frames, so HUGE improvement and if this turns out to be the right "formula" for these, having to replace ~50-60 frames for a ~22minute video (which contains ~32000-33000 frames) as opposed to nearly a 1000 frames in first 6 minutes is a VERY welcome change.
SO A HUGE THANX TO ALL THAT SUGGESTED SRESTORE!!!
I can now say, that this project is back on the right path and completing it should be relatively easy now (although still time consuming as I have to go through it frame-by-frame, on the troubled episodes, to make sure that everything is correct and sycing the audio is time-consuming as well.)
Now, on to the "issue" of audio:
@ hofverberg- NOT a problem. Digitize all of the audio from the episodes you have (please label them: s01e01... s02e01... etc... - if unsure of this - the episodes are listed properly here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_New_Adventures_of_Winnie_the_Pooh_episodes) and then make a torrent containing all of them, send me the torrent file (in a PM, of course) and once I pulled them down, I can sync them to this release as well. I asked if anyone has extra languages available in one of my previous posts, so this is a VERY welcome thing.
@ ALL - I am still looking for German and Russian audio for the "Xmas special - and xmas too episode" and am now looking for Polish, German, and Russian audio for the "Halloween special - boo to you too pooh episode" as I will be including that episode as well (thanx2 roadkillwarrior -not on this forum - for supplying me with a very nice source, as the one in the xvid release sucked.) And, depending on whether hofverberg has the Swedish audio for those or not, may possibly need Swedish audio for those two episodes as well.
That's all for now, as now it's time for me to get back to editing on this project ;)
Peace, Jerry
Thanx4the suggestions guys, however (honestly) this script stuff is way above my knowledge of these things. I can do some editing things and am pretty good at accomplishing nice results using Vegas Pro 11 but my real forte is audio editing and/or photo editing. This is not to say that I'm not going to figure it out or that I mind learning new things (as this whole project is a learning experience for me) but it may take me some time.
What is really interesting is that some of the "problem" episodes were actually just telecined and they haven't been giving me problems once I used the Decomb telecine filter in avidemux, but some suffer from some weird field-blending (where I'm not sure if they were telecined) and start giving me problems. It's interesting that srestore tries to do automatically what I have been doing manually by using this process:
First, I make a encode from source using the TDeint filter. Next, I make a second encode from source using the DGbob filter (doubling frames and fps). Next I load both encodes into Vegas, where I manually replace the frames with issue in the first encode (as a lot of it looks fine) with frames from the second encode and have been getting a pretty nice result so far. Granted, this is a "manual" way of doing what srestore (assuming I understand what I read about how that script works) does automatically, HOWEVER the advantage of doing it manually is that I am SURE that ever problem frame is restored properly.
Until I really figure out this script thing, this works. Also, I know that results will vary when trying to do it automated by using srestore and I might have to go through it and fix some frames anyway, whereas the manual way I am sure all frames are restored. A little bit more time consuming? sure, but that's ok for now. This project is already overwhelming because of its size and I'm willing to do it manually as I'm just more comfortable with it that way.
Still, thanx4suggestions and I am learning this stuff on the side either way, as I do eventually want to do things "properly"
Peace, Jerry
Ok, now that I have tried the Decomb telecine filter in avidemux on an entire episode I have noticed a couple of things. When using the TDeint filter, I get a very nice picture (except for the field-blended frames, which there is a lot of) and with the Decomb telecine filter I have no field-blending (for the most part) but now in numerous other places I have a combing effect, so should I mix and match frames from both encodes (using decomb telecine for encode 1 and TDeint for encode 2) to produce the cleanest possible picture?
or maybe even do three encodes, where the third one I could use the seperate fields filter (for those fields/frames that can't be recovered properly using either of the other two methods) ?
Moth3r said:
Space Kaijuu said:
If the source videos are interlaced, have you tried unfolding the fields? The animation itself was done at 12 frames per second so, even with field blending, you should be able to get at least one field that is clean for each frame of animation. If your source videos are no longer interlaced, this won't work, though.
It's the same for the PAL conversions of the Ewoks cartoons; however you will probably find that even if the animation is 12fps, camera pans and zooms are at 24fps - and therefore there are no "clean" versions of certain frames to restore.
Is this why my video now looks mostly correct (but there are still occasional frames with slight "ghosting" artifact, so slight you can barely notice, but it's there) because certain frames can't be restored?
So, as this is my first such preservation project, I am still learning how to do this properly. That being said:
@ Molly - A HUGE apology concerning the "telecine" issue as you were RIGHT!!!
I have managed to deinterlace telecined material properly before but, apparently, you CAN'T use the same settings for all material. After playing around with the "Decomb Telecine" filter in avidemux, I have managed to produce a nearly flawless (as occasionally there are minor artifacts, but very minor) deinterlaced, NON-blended picture.
@ Space Kaijuu - HUGE thanx for pointing out that I should look at the video one FIELD (not frame) at a time (as this is what helped me realize that the source videos that had the issues were actually telecined) ALL of the source videos are MPEG-2 PAL files, all INTERLACED (only the low quality xvid releases are progressive and I ONLY use those as timing reference or for title cards)
@ Andrea - Again, thanx4kind words and4ur suggestions. When it comes to release time, BD-25 will probably be the way I end up releasing it HOWEVER there is a consistency problem when it comes to amount of episodes per season because:
Season 1 = 22 episodes
Season 2 = 10 episodes
Season 3 = 10 episodes
Season 4 = 8 episodes (plus the xmas special episode)
So how should I separate those between different discs is still a mystery to me, unless I release Season 1 on two discs, and each season after that on one disc each(?)
I do have MultiAVCHD and have made very (really, VERY) basic menus before (where there was only ONE title on disc), but for a release like this I would like to make nice (maybe even fancy) menus and things (I even downloaded some Disney and Winnie the Pooh FONTS so it can look nicer), HOWEVER I will have to learn how to do this first which is ok because this whole project is a learning-as-I-go experience.
Now, with all that out of the way, I have to go back and re-do a few episodes (fortunately I'm figuring this out early instead of when I'm nearly done) This will probably set me back a week on release time, BUT it will be worth it, as ALL episodes will look correct, will be progressive, at NTSC-speed, restored back to original broadcast format, and contain numerous languages synced up properly ;)
Again, HUGE thank you to ALL that have helped me so far. It is greatly appreciated. Peace,
Jerry
SH*T, I'm triple-posting now, LOL...
Well, thanx2Andrea for exchanging some PMs with me on the subject of this preservation. After carefully going through the episodes that are frame-blended (turns out that it's almost 1/4 of all the episodes) I have realized that in 80-90% of the cases there is NOTHING that I can do to fix the problem as the issue happens most is fast changing scenes (where every 2nd and 3rd frame is blended into the 2nd frame - I know this as I have a low quality xvid German release that is properly converted to PAL but I can't use as source as the quality is sh*t which can be seen in some of the screenshot comparisons above) and duplicating frames there to solve the frame-blending doesn't work as the picture "jumps" too much (gets jittery) because there are actual frames missing then. So I have decided to leave most of those "as is" (except where I can duplicate a frame due to little motion and there being actual duplicate frames to work with)
That being said, some of the audio syncing has been a b*tch because I am syncing 4 (four) different audio tracks to each episode (most of which come from VHS sources and many have to be tempo adjusted for the PAL/NTSC conversion) I might be repeating myself on that note, but some have really proven to be problematic (especially when I have to do a 2% slow-down instead of 4.096% to sync the video which tells me some of those tapes were played on some funky VCR's because the speed there make NO sense at all) Then there are missing parts of audio (especially in the ENGLISH releases) at the beginning (2-4 seconds) around commercials (before and/or after, also 2-4 seconds) and the very end (also 2-4 seconds) where I have to replace the audio (fortunately for now I have managed to make the transition seem-less) from one of the other three language versions, depending on episode. This doesn't affect dialogue (in all cases but one, where the boys mom says "Christopher Robin?" with a German accent because the English audio is missing,) and I am just filling in missing music. Still this adds to the time it takes for me to go through all of this.
Right now, with me being busy doing many other things too, being a father to my little girls, and the time that it takes to edit, encode, mux, remux, etc. all the audio and video, I am completing about 1 to 2 episodes a day. I am on episode 20 and 21 of season 1 right now and with there being a total of 50 episodes (plus the bonus Christmas special "winnie the pooh and xmas too), it will take me, at least, another 4-5 weeks before this is finished.
On that note, I have a question for you fine people here:
Should I wait to release this until it's a complete series release?
OR
should I release these after each season is complete (there's four of them)?
thanx4letting me ramble about this and taking the time to read it. this is my first such preservation project and I am very excited about it. I hope that once it's finished, it won't disappoint as I am pouring a lot of my heart into this one (this series has a special sentimental value to me and my family)
peace,
jerry
I hope we see some of those screenshots soon ;)
This is one we have all been waiting for, for a long time (so I guess we can wait longer, but I'm sure I don't speak just for myself when I say we are anxious to see this movie properly)
Damn shame that Disney "dropped the ball" on this, just like they have done with numerous other films and tv shows (especially their stuff from the late 80s-early 90s)
This question is more rhetorical than anything else, but why oh why would they let so much of their great material go to sh*t?! Thankfully there are people (such as, here, on this forum) that see the need in preserving things that studios have ignored. And since I don't want to be just an observer, I too, have taken up some projects that studios have ignored.
And this "Song of the South" project is a wonderful en devour and will be a treat to all of us, especially if the release ends up being in HD (even if only 720p) On that note, with some of the talent I have seen from "fans" on this forum, I am wondering why some of you don't do these things professionally. AND, on the other hand, I understand why that doesn't matter to some as then their "creative genius" would be wasted on corporate interests, LOL
I'm rambling now, sorry... Again, thanx2ALL involved in making this happened and we can't wait2see the results ;)
Sorry for the double post, but now that I see these screenshots side-by-side, even with the blending issue, there is a huge quality difference between the two sources and the xvid copies (even though they don't suffer from the frame blending) look like "smear-o-vision" and now I'm wondering if I should even use ANY of the frames from that release as the difference will be obvious and probably look WORSE than the frame blended source "as is" (except where I can use duplicate frames to correct problem) ...thoughts?...
Thanx4the response Andrea. Sure, I can post sceenshots of the "trouble" areas (there a lot of them in some episodes, but for example so you can see what I'm talking about, here's a few where first I'll post the trouble spots that don't have duplicate frames that I can use to correct the problem with the proper transfer examples of those frames underneath):
01- problem frames
correct frames:
example 02 - problem frame:
correct frames:
example 3 - problem frame:
correct frames:
example 4 - incorrect frame:
correct frames:
Unfortunately, it's more than just a few frames per episode (fortunately it's only a few episodes, as most are correctly transferred to PAL) I am trying to fix them as best as possible and want to go for a "purist" version, if possible, and you're right that most people won't notice (but I will)
As far as scripts are concerned, it's something I'm still learning and most (but not all) of the editing work (after I deinterlaced the videos using a script in avidemux) is being done in Vegas Pro 11.
Ok, so I kind of hit a brick wall with this project and need some advice. Some of the episodes have the frame blending issue (where the PAL copy has the NTSC runtime) and I searched high and low for alternate sources. I finally found a second edition of German releases of the series in xvid format (but instead of a 800-1200kbps video bitrate they are 1600-1800kbps) and is the ONLY one that has those episodes converted properly to PAL (with PAL speed-up and NO frame blending) Now I do NOT want to use that as a "main" source for this project (as the other source are MUCH higher bitrate) but perhaps replace the frames that I can't correct by duplicating frames could be used from the German source. However there is a little Disney logo in the bottom lefthand corner of the screen on the German release which is not there on the higher quality source. So should I try to "cookie-cutter" that part out where that part will still display the higher quality source but most of the screen would be properly there from German source. Should I just replace those frames directly and leave logo intact (which would be weird if a disney logo flashed for a frame here and there occasionally or what???? Not sure how to bite this one... Or edit each of those frame in PaintShopPro and re-insert them that way??? Any suggestions would be awesome... I will not let this stop me but I just want to make sure it's done right. What's really weird about this is that the NTSC xvid release of some of these episodes in question suffer from the same frame blending that I saw in all PAL releases (except for the second German one I just found that I reference up top) which makes me wonder if the NTSC releases were de-interlaced incorrectly, hence the frame blending.
Ok, I'm rambling now... thanx4reading&hope someone might have a suggestion that will help, peace
P.S. The episodes in question are very few as far as entire series is concerned, so for now I am going to finish working on the episodes that were converted to PAL correctly and once I have the "blending" issue figured out I will go back to those troubled episodes. So either way, this project is still moving forward :)
According to the info on the other forum (amps) there was an issue with some part giving out in the equipment and it would be a moment before that member has the money to replace the parts. Once that's done, there are some other projects that need finishing before Song of the South is converted.