jedimasterobiwan

Dek Rollins said:

Dreamaster said:

NO Dr. Dre… please for the love of God go back to this one!

DrDre said:

Here’s the complete set of warmer regrades:

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THIS!

DrDre, the video sample you posted is not nearly as good looking as those previous screenshots. The “final grading” feels way too orange/pink overall, and removes the slight mint-green feel that I think is almost essential.

Ha ha you all think your really cute. You must think your really Superior huh. Here i am just asking a simple question and all you do is criticize me. your horrible star wars fans treating other fans like that what did i ever do to you guys sorry for living sheesh jerks.

I can’t believe i’m throwing this out there only because it’s so recent the color of the tataive in revenge of the sith scene where obi wan,yoda and bail organa. I could be wrong but that seems to be the right color. I don’t know if it possible to get it to look like that considering how old a new hope is but there you go.

But the tantaive looks pink or are you messing with me

generalfrevious said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

generalfrevious said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

generalfrevious said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

generalfrevious said:

ATMachine said:

That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.

I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.

In other words george lucas had too big of an ego and clout at the time and probable thought he was the best writer in the world. which is too bad because jedi and the prequels would have been great. If he didn’t have a bunch of yes men who didn’t have the balls to question all of the problems with the scripts. Though the only thing i do really like about jedi is han didn’t die like Harrison ford wanted,the emperor and maybe some other things but that’s it.

But still he shouldn’t have taken out his frustrations on his fans like this. The franchise has been ruined ten times longer than it was good.

I know right i wish someone had the balls to stand up to him and tell him this wasn’t going to work. Me i think if jedi and 1,2,3 were ether miniseries or seasons with each season being these four episodes it would have had room to breath.

There wasn’t enough story in the prequels to cover even one movie. Jedi really isn’t that bad either, but if they just didn’t fire Kurtz years earlier, we would’ve had a perfect trilogy.

What do you mean not much of a story you have the emperor obi wan,Anakin,the Jedi order the clone war,the rise of the empire it just was plotted out,written and executed etc. horribly that’s all. If it was done the way Lucas was trying come across or something similar and by that i mean the fall of Anakin way it was intended to come across. It would have made Vader’s death more meaningful what we got was effects over story. 😦 But my point is still valid the back story done right would have added more to the original trilogy instead of what we got. In the end your right if the producer of a new hope and empire didn’t leave we would have had two epic trilogies.

Ok maybe the PT could have been good. But the shape of the franchise works against creating a prequel trilogy; when Star Wars came out in 1977 Lucas had no clue he even would make a film trilogy, or even that the film would be the fourth episode. Star Wars feels like the starting point of the franchise, instead of a middle chapter like Lucas insists. I don’t believe he ever had an outline for a three film story, or even had the intelligence to create richly detailed universe with its own mythology.

What does this franchise even have now? Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and little else. And now Disney is polluting the franchise with middle of the road cookie cutter product.

He did have the prequel trilogy planned out sometime in the 80s but the story he had planned he completely changed and for the record the backstory was mentioned in the first film. But you’re right at that time the prequels were not even a thought but the prequel story was there the clone wars the fall of the jedi etc. and if done right it would have given the original trilogy more weight if you ask me. Ps. star wars rebels the canon comics novels etc. aren’t bad i don’t know about episode 7 haven’t seen it and it sounds like rouge one might be a really good movie.

generalfrevious said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

generalfrevious said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

generalfrevious said:

ATMachine said:

That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.

I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.

In other words george lucas had too big of an ego and clout at the time and probable thought he was the best writer in the world. which is too bad because jedi and the prequels would have been great. If he didn’t have a bunch of yes men who didn’t have the balls to question all of the problems with the scripts. Though the only thing i do really like about jedi is han didn’t die like Harrison ford wanted,the emperor and maybe some other things but that’s it.

But still he shouldn’t have taken out his frustrations on his fans like this. The franchise has been ruined ten times longer than it was good.

I know right i wish someone had the balls to stand up to him and tell him this wasn’t going to work. Me i think if jedi and 1,2,3 were ether miniseries or seasons with each season being these four episodes it would have had room to breath.

There wasn’t enough story in the prequels to cover even one movie. Jedi really isn’t that bad either, but if they just didn’t fire Kurtz years earlier, we would’ve had a perfect trilogy.

What do you mean not much of a story you have the emperor obi wan,Anakin,the Jedi order the clone war,the rise of the empire it just was plotted out,written and executed etc. horribly that’s all. If it was done the way Lucas was trying come across or something similar and by that i mean the fall of Anakin way it was intended to come across. It would have made Vader’s death more meaningful what we got was effects over story. 😦 But my point is still valid the back story done right would have added more to the original trilogy instead of what we got. In the end your right if the producer of a new hope and empire didn’t leave we would have had two epic trilogies.

Thing i noticed about the tantive scene is the inside isn’t white in most edits it’s either blue,bluish gray,pink,red or off white Why isn’t it white in any of these color corrections or am i seeing things wrong?

generalfrevious said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

generalfrevious said:

ATMachine said:

That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.

I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.

In other words george lucas had too big of an ego and clout at the time and probable thought he was the best writer in the world. which is too bad because jedi and the prequels would have been great. If he didn’t have a bunch of yes men who didn’t have the balls to question all of the problems with the scripts. Though the only thing i do really like about jedi is han didn’t die like Harrison ford wanted,the emperor and maybe some other things but that’s it.

But still he shouldn’t have taken out his frustrations on his fans like this. The franchise has been ruined ten times longer than it was good.

I know right i wish someone had the balls to stand up to him and tell him this wasn’t going to work. Me i think if jedi and 1,2,3 were ether miniseries or seasons with each season being these four episodes it would have had room to breath.

generalfrevious said:

ATMachine said:

That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.

I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.

In other words george lucas had too big of an ego and clout at the time and probable thought he was the best writer in the world. which is too bad because jedi and the prequels would have been great. If he didn’t have a bunch of yes men who didn’t have the balls to question all of the problems with the scripts. Though the only thing i do really like about jedi is han didn’t die like Harrison ford wanted,the emperor and maybe some other things but that’s it.

darthrush said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

Who’s color correction of a new hope best right now?

I’d say a mix of Dre’s for 4k77 and Neverars.

Could you or someone please either put comparisons of the two comparisons or them and the blu ray or tell me where i can find pics or video from them? I just want to see for myself.

Who’s color correction of a new hope best right now?

yotsuya said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

yotsuya said:

This is my color correction of the blu-ray. It is a little more saturated and has less red and green than DrDre’s technicolor frame.

That one above is too red and yours has a very slight but still noticeable blue to it. Making the storm troopers outfits for example not look as white as the image above

I had noticed that it looks a bit blue in comparison, but it doesn’t when I watch the video render. I just posted it as an alternative. But mainly I am pleased at how the brightness and contrast are nearly identical to what DrDre posted. It is considerably brighter and less blue than the blu-ray source. Also, from a technical point of view, the two images are a simple rbg adjustment from each other, (I changed red down 15% and green down 8% on DrDre’s image to match my image and found the best whites if I changed his image by red down 5% and green down 3%).

will it show up better in a comparison video?

yotsuya said:

This is my color correction of the blu-ray. It is a little more saturated and has less red and green than DrDre’s technicolor frame.

That one above is too red and yours has a very slight but still noticeable blue to it. Making the storm troopers outfits for example not look as white as the image above

ok how?

Didn’t want to post this here just had questions for kk650 about three things with his color correction ghostbusters and ghostbusters 2 one can you put up a comparison of what color of green slimer looks like in your ghostbusters and ghostbusters 2 color correction two are you going to release a 50gb version of your color corrections or close too or not? just curious and last question did you fix some of the contrast that even in the new releases are still but most of them were fix the ones i would like fixed were the librarian ghost the proton beams not looking bright looking muted like the lightsabres in that one scene in jedi on the dvd and the scene on top of dana buliding with the fog if their are others. i don’t know please answer my questions if can’t or don’t want to do three i understand. but if you could try to do one and two.

so what’s the point in vader’s eye being red in a new hope revisited and not the rest of the revisited versions of original trilogy?

adywan said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

doubleofive is vader’s eyes in all three of the original trilogy revisited going to be red for continuity i hope so.

No

Are you being serious only reason i asked is because you said his eye will be red in a new hope and also because people like to mess with me on here when all i want is a straight answer that’s all.

doubleofive is vader’s eyes in all three of the original trilogy revisited going to be red for continuity i hope so.

i had a thought what if the prequels instead of being three movies what if they were three separated premium or syndicated mini series or three full seasons to give enough time for the story to breath and of course written by george lucas but guided by someone so they come out great. Also this would mean there would be no need for a clone wars series because in this version the clone wars begins in episode 1. Same goes for return of the jedi a mini series would have worked for that movie as well. i’m not talking about a edit of the films i’m saying that he shouldn’t have made the three prequels movies. i was saying in an alternate reality would this have been better than the prequel films?

Didn’t know sorry i thought it wasn’t bad to talk off topic sometimes on here that’s all.

doubleofive said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

If this is the wrong place shoot this out there. Sorry but i had a thought what if the prequels instead of being three movies what if they were three separated premium or syndicated mini series or three full seasons to give enough time for the story to breath and of course written by george lucas but guided by someone so they come out great. Also this would mean there would be no need for a clone wars series because in this version the clone wars begins in episode 1. Same goes for return of the jedi a mini series would have worked for that movie as well.

Definitely the wrong thread since that has nothing to do with Empire Strikes Back Revisited or even Adywan’s plans for the prequels. There are plenty of other prequel edit threads where this could be suggested and probably already has been.

Oh it wasn’t about a fan edit it was a what if i was wondering if that would have been better prequels than what we got same goes for jedi. Only reason i brought it up is it seem like the thread was veering off topic anyway and i just thought i throw that out there sorry if i shouldn’t have.

If this is the wrong place shoot this out there. Sorry but i had a thought what if the prequels instead of being three movies what if they were three separated premium or syndicated mini series or three full seasons to give enough time for the story to breath and of course written by george lucas but guided by someone so they come out great. Also this would mean there would be no need for a clone wars series because in this version the clone wars begins in episode 1. Same goes for return of the jedi a mini series would have worked for that movie as well.

Wow so if Gary Kurtz did leave star wars jedi and the prequels would have been a lot better. That just goes to show how important a producer is and george had very bad producers after he left. 😦 Man does this really really suck. If only we could go to an alternate reality where there are good versions of the prequels and Jedi.

i don’t think i’ve ever seen a new hope look this good it looks like it was shot today wow that was an amazing job. hope adywan makes it look this good.

adywan said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

adywan said:

TV’s Frink said:

Hey, what if we just tell him it is dead. Then maybe he’ll go away…?

So very tempted 😉

oh ha ha sorry but i just want to know because it’s been a little bit over a month. that’s all i don’t mean to be impatient but after the wampa thing i didn’t know how that and the miniatures and hanger scene was coming along. i’m just happy with what you are doing i’m really really looking forward to it your edit is going to be the definitive and perfect version.

What Wampa thing?

making the wampa look consistently the same

adywan said:

TV’s Frink said:

Hey, what if we just tell him it is dead. Then maybe he’ll go away…?

So very tempted 😉

oh ha ha sorry but i just want to know because it’s been a little bit over a month. that’s all i don’t mean to be impatient but after the wampa thing i didn’t know how that and the miniatures and hanger scene was coming along. i’m just happy with what you are doing i’m really really looking forward to it your edit is going to be the definitive and perfect version.