imperialscum

Bingowings said:

She is hired to play the character not sleep with director... it's the 21st century so hopefully that sort of thing doesn't happen any more ;-i

Have seen her contract to be so sure?

woofermazing said:

The Vader 'NOOOOOO' is pretty much the best thing that could have happened for our cause. It turns people against the special editions better than Han shooting second ever could.

Nothing beats Hayden at that though.

That kinda looks like her anyway.

Tobar said:

You really can't give that judgement without having seen the first season.

I can.

John Doom said:

Abrams keeps talking about wanting to evoke the feel of the originals rather than the prequels—in the Vanity Fair story, he says he considered putting Jar Jar Binks's bones in the background of a Force Awakens scene.

I understand people disliking Jar-Jar, but wouldn't it be too much? :D

Those who truly dislike Jar Jar wouldn't want any reference to him in the film. Even if it means showing that he died, it would still pollute the film with his presence and made you think about him. When it comes to PT stuff, the best way is to ignore it.

Akton said:

After the Sequel Trilogy Concludes... Then What?

Then this.

moviefreakedmind said:

As for imperialscum's statement that history is a "useless" field of study I definitely have to disagree, but I'm a bit biased because I happen to study history :p

I did not say history itself is useless, after all I loved it when I was young. It is just that, from a perspective of an engineer, studying it at university is useless. Well you have to forgive me, I am scientist/engineer. :)

If this is to happen, I hope they will try to ignore everything established in PT.

slask said:

I guess you live in a world where everyone's read SW books. How naive.

I guess you live in a world where everyone has seen (or cares about) PT.

moviefreakedmind said:

The character of Darth Vader in the OT was a reference to Jake Lloyd

If we follow slask's great "wisdom", OT itself is a PT reference.

slask said:

TV's Frink said:

Again, the PT didn't exist in 1997.  If anything, you could say the PT made some references to the 97 SE.  It wouldn't make much sense to say that, but it makes even less sense to say it the other way around.

 What some of you fail to understand is that in 1997 ep. I WAS in production...     why on earth would Lucas include a shot of Coruscant, a city never mentioned in the OT, if not for a link to the prequels??

It's obvious, it was included because within 2 years people would have known Coruscant.

What you fail to understand is that imperial capital (Coruscant) was already known before PT was even written, let alone in production.

The shot was simply a reference to Coruscant and not to PT.

Han's shirt is too clean.

slask said:

imperialscum said:

Exactly. There are no PT references in 1997 SE.

Also imperial capital city appeared in Dark Forces in 1995.

All that stuff is not canon, so yes, there are PT references.

As Frink already explained to you, that doesn't make any sense.

Exactly. There are no PT references in 1997 SE.

Also imperial capital city appeared in Dark Forces in 1995.

You asked why I care so much for 1997 and I gave you my reason. And the reason is that they are the only proper self-contained SE out there. By self-contained I mean that they don't have references to some other non-relevant films (i.e. to PT). OT has been designed to stand on its own and did most successfully stand on its own for many years. PT is an optional back-story therefore people should not be imposed with PT references in OT if they choose to ignore PT. That is why 1997 SE is important as it is just an enhancement of the original versions. However for those who do care about PT there is 2011 version with all the PT stuff in it.

slask said:

But then tell mr. know-it-all to respect everyone's opinion, and not to call ignorant or childish the ones who don't think like him.

Telling me that I should "just get over it" when I said I like 1997 versions really isn't an opinion. It is disrespecting my opinion and therefore childish.

slask said:

Said the guy whining with foolish denial: 1997 versions are the best edition of the trilogy "becuse it is not infested with PT parasites".

Since when a preference is a "foolish denial"?

slask said:

It is childish to pretend that a version you don't like doesn't exist, or worse to say that the one you like is the "proper one", without any objective reason.

Stop making things up. I don't pretend the versions I don't like don't exist. Nor do I propagate the idea that some versions shouldn't be released (unlike you).

slask said:

I want the classic trilogy in its best representation, which is a proper HD transfer struck from appropriate digital scan, and I want it for BOTH the original and the 2011, not just for an intermediate version which was improved twice. Future blu-ray releases should please all fans

You want only original and 2011 to be released and at the same time you want all fans to be pleased? What kind of paradox is that.

slask said:

retro-fags like you.

Well I guess we can't all be modern and straight.

generalfrevious said:

sunglassesatnite said:

I absolutely love Jedi and I think most fans do also.  I think Jedi attracts criticism for certain elements like the Ewoks, but Jedi's iconography is set in stone.  It is an undisputed classic.  As for the best SW movie?  I think a solid case can be made for any of the original trilogy.  They are all great for different reasons.  

 Everyone knows it's Empire Strikes Back. There's no debate; that is the best film in the franchise.

Don't make me give you a lesson on how art and objectivity are incompatible... Unless you find a objective measure where you can say this film is better than that, you should refrain from saying such nonsense.

I too see Han's character in Jedi as a logical evolution. In fact I could argue that he never was a scoundler by nature. His core personality was always as that in Jedi. His true character just gradually gets revealed throughout the trilogy as we (other characters) start to know him better and better.

In Star Wars always felt to me like he is just putting up an act, i.e. he made himself look tough and like someone who doesn't care. If that was his true character and if he really was in fact a scoundler, he surely would not come to save Luke in the final battle. And he most certainly would not join the Rebellion after that.

So even in Star Wars we can see that he was actually a "pussy" putting up an act. That is even more evident in Empire. And it finally gets clear in Jedi.

slask said:

And I told mister imperialscum that is pointless to say that "1997 are the only proper special edition".

That's not how it went. You asked me why do I care for 1997 SE. I gave you my reason. And then you told me that "SW is what is creator says it is" and that I should "just get over it". So basically you told me (in a classic childish Lucas-gusher manner) to submit to Lucas and his attempt to erase other versions from the history.

TV's Frink said:

Don't you have a restoration to work on?

Nothing matters anymore.

slask said:

imperialscum said:

slask said:

imperialscum said:

slask said:

Why do you care so much about the '97 SE?

Because it is the only proper (self-contained) special edition of the trilogy at the moment. Because it is not infested with PT parasites.

 Just serious answers, please.

It is very serious. You just don't get the point.

No, you don't get this: SW is what is creator says it is. Just get over it

My oh my. Now go back step by step in the quotations and try to figure out just how the hell is this remark connected to anything we previously said.

GlastoEls said:

"Lucas retains final cut".

I don't think this translates to a "right to prevent release of theatrical versions".

slask said:

imperialscum said:

slask said:

Why do you care so much about the '97 SE?

Because it is the only proper (self-contained) special edition of the trilogy at the moment. Because it is not infested with PT parasites.

 Just serious answers, please.

It is very serious. You just don't get the point.

slask said:

Why do you care so much about the '97 SE?

Because it is the only proper (self-contained) special edition of the trilogy at the moment. Because it is not infested with PT parasites.