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#1049504
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What was George Lucas's worst decision with the Star Wars franchise?
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ray_afraid said:

generalfrevious said:

Lord Haseo said:

generalfrevious said:
Say what you want about the prequels, they were at least interesting failures as opposed to passable filler.

I would rather have a film that’s watchable than to watch a bad film that’s only somewhat enjoyable when talking about how it could have been better in retrospect. But hey…

we had three years to recover from the TRAUMA.

So sick of seeing people talk about the PT as if it was actually something that scarred them. Or maybe it’s just evidence of individuals who’ve done nothing with their lives and have no barometer of reality.
They were terrible films and that was very disappointing, but if the disappointment over some stupid movies caused you trauma, you gots problems.

I guess this is partially referring to my post in the other thread. I put the word traumatic in “” to indicate it was not actually traumatic but just memorable enough in a bad way.

Besides, I do not see the reason why would you be upset by how someone feels about some film. It affects you in no way whatsoever. Being upset by something like this is actually way more pathetic than being scarred by a film.

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#1049171
Topic
What was George Lucas's worst decision with the Star Wars franchise?
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TV’s Frink said:

Tyrphanax said:

I generally agree with a lot of this thread. Burying the OOT is probably the worst thing he’s done.

I think the issue with a Lucas-directed Sequel Trilogy in the 90s-2000s is that there would have been a massive chance to ruin three characters we all love.

In before they were ruined by Disney nonsense.

I am afraid you were too late.

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#1049123
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Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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DominicCobb said:

My brain is working well enough that I can separate two movies from each other rather easily. I could think about how the PT represented the Clone Wars when they’re mentioned - or I could choose to imagine they’re something completely different.

Well it is obviously not working well enough for you to understand the difference between concious separation of some concepts in two films and subconscious association to memories. That is despite my explicit explanation in the previous post.

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#1049095
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Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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DominicCobb said:

People saying they see Hayden when they watch the OT is surprising (well, ROTJSE aside). I find it impossible to reconcile his portrayal with the Vader character. Which is actually a failure on Lucas’s part, as his goal was to make you think of Anakin when watching the OT. But the portrayals are so disparate so as to practically be two completely different characters with very little in common. I find it as hard to see Hayden when I look at Vader as the other way around, even though it’s not supposed to be that way.

So no, thankfully Hayden does not ruin the OT for me. I don’t even know how that’d be possible.

I do not think anyone said they see Vader as Hayden in terms of character. The point was that memories of PT subconsciously pop up while watching OT and it can be annoying. A nice example where it happens is when Obi-Wan tells Luke about Jedi, Republic and Clone Wars.

I don’t know, maybe some people have really weak brain processing and their neural networks do not associate things that well. Even though it has been 10-15 years since I saw PT, it was a “traumatic” experience and memories are particularly strong.

ray_afraid said:

TV’s Frink said:

When I’m eating real crab, I’m not thinking of imitation crab meat because I ate it two months prior.

Right. When I’m eating a great burger, thoughts of yesterdays lunch from McDonnalds won’t spoil the meal.

Hell, if anything, it’ll make me enjoy the quality burger even more.

I will readjust this analogy to be correct for the given example. Imagine ordering a burger and someone put shit inside it without you noticing it and then you notice it while you already ate half. It would be a traumatic memory and I guarantee you will be reminded of it whenever you see a burger or even just hear a word “burger”.

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#1048755
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

imperialscum said:

The way I see it, Disney should at least give a clear statement whether they plan to release OOT or not. At least Lucas was clear on this matter.

Except he wasn’t. He released it two years later, albeit in shitty quality.

He was clear with “the other versions will disappear” statement. Everything else was just trolling… including the release of a shitty quality up-scale of already released version that most definitely does not count as “releasing it”.

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#1048579
Topic
Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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TV’s Frink said:

Ryan-SWI said:

Mocata said:

I guess it’s possible, it would be interesting even if he just got to flesh out an existing plan for the narrative. But I’m just suspicious that this is all a Lucasfilm board room creation after the 2-3 named writers on TFA. It’s probably all just done with a committee.
“I am not a committee” - Rian Johnson, probably.

Hey come on, TFA wasn’t made in a boardroom, it was clearly made with time, love and care. That’s why a messy script was rushed through production with “A New Hope” scribbled out on the front.

Yeah, you listen to JJ talk about the film for two hours and it’s clear how little he cares about it.

He always stressed how he liked original Star Wars.

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#1048546
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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Lord Haseo said:

Wrong. The only person who acts that way around here is Impscum. Please provide evidence of me, Frink, Dominic etc. saying our opinions are factual or anything like that.

Exhibit A: Equating personal opinion with objectivity (i.e. fact)

TV’s Frink said:

Anyone is allowed to like the prequels, doing so is just expressing one’s personal opinion. However, I firmly believe that anyone who doesn’t think they’re objectively poorly executed is either not paying attention or lying to themselves. That makes them bad.

Exhibit B: Equating a group of opinions with objectivity (i.e. fact)

DominicCobb said:

putting aside the fact that the large majority of people (in general, not just this site) say the prequels aren’t great, which isn’t evidence but is as good an objective indicator as you can get

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#1048542
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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Lord Haseo said:

Ryan-SWI said:

  • User does not post the “correct” list the hivemind deems acceptable to type

I personally never said you shouldn’t the PT in your list. I just don’t understand why anyone would have it anywhere but at the bottom of the list.

This is as stupid as not understanding why someone might like strawberry ice cream over chocolate ice cream. It is simply a matter of taste.

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#1048329
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

You did not mock the film. You mocked his liking.

Which is because of the quality of the film and not his tastes in general. Regardless of how he would have responded I would have called the film terrible and scoffed at the thought that AOTC could possibly be on par with Rogue One.

Let me break it down for you…

A1: “I would have called the film terrible” - That would be okay since it is only concerning the film. But you did not do that.

A2: “scoffed at the thought that AOTC could possibly be on par with Rogue One” - That is what you actually did, i.e. mocked his preference.

Also if this is a personal insult then you have insulted me dozens of times for liking TFA so practice what you preach.

I did not mock your liking of TFA (did not do A2). I only stated the truth that TFA is terrible (A1 equivalent).

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#1048287
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

I can defend TFA

Defending bad film does not make it any less bad. You are just defending your liking of bad things, which is unnecessary since no one was attacking it.

So by that logic building a solid argument for or against any film is meaningless because the quality of the film is completely separate.

The ability to argue is insignificant next to the power of the truth.

In fact you were the one attacking the guy for liking AOTC.

There was no attacking; I was merely being inquisitive.

I don’t think so. It was clearly a mockery:

Lord Haseo said:

Ryan-SWI said:

Lord Haseo said:

May I ask why you have AOTC so high and Rogue One so low?

It could be because they like AOTC more. Just a guess though.

That’s what I’m afraid of…

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#1047841
Topic
Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
Time

Development (change of character) does not make characters good or well written. TFA characters may get more development throughout the film but they are boring or unoriginal and the development is bad or unoriginal. While in R1 the characters may not change much (do no get much development) but at least they are complex and interesting.

Lord Haseo said:

I think you should stop finding lame false explanations about R1 and TFA in order to feel better. You should face the fact that R1 is simply good and TFA is crap. Those of us who like R1 and dislike TFA simply accept this truth.

I like Rogue One but it’s definitely more entertaining than well written. I personally can’t say the same for TFA.

TFA is neither well written nor entertaining.

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#1047807
Topic
Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Lord Haseo said:

I think anyone who enjoys Rogue One more than TFA or any of the OT films just wanted a simple and original story filled with fun characters and nice explosions. Doesn’t matter if the plot is inconsistent and certain things are glossed over or that most of the characters are paper thin because Rogue One is a fun ride overall.

Speaking of inconsistent plot and glossed over things, TFA pretends that plot is about finding Luke while in reality it is about destroying death star. R1 has nothing anywhere this scale.

Speaking of paper thin characters, Krennic and Cassian are by far more interesting and complex than any of the “paper thin” character in TFA.

I think you should stop finding lame false explanations about R1 and TFA in order to feel better. You should face the fact that R1 is simply good and TFA is crap. Those of us who like R1 and dislike TFA simply accept this truth.

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#1047650
Topic
Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Mavimao said:

imperialscum said:

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

He wants to say “rehash” so badly right now.

He also wants to say “truth” so badly right now, but since it has eluded him, he’s flailing about, and it’s glorious.

What I said was the truth. I said “I know of at least one language where the title was translated in singular”. I did not translate it myself.

Ok but what language was it? Where did you see it? Was it official merchandise?

Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian, etc. I saw it at different places (articles, IMDb, wikipedia, etc.). I would assume they are official translation for each country. Judging by so many awful translation in local languages in the past, I do not think the film producers (in this case LFL) has any control over the local language translation. That is why I am sceptical about the information provided by these translations.

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#1047497
Topic
Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

He wants to say “rehash” so badly right now.

He also wants to say “truth” so badly right now, but since it has eluded him, he’s flailing about, and it’s glorious.

What I said was the truth. I said “I know of at least one language where the title was translated in singular”. I did not translate it myself.