She has tons of make-up on all pictures posted on this page... sadly make-up can't fix the neck fat.
I think her new line will be "Help me CGI, you are my only hope".
It all depends on one's perception I guess...
Bingowings said:
She looks older.
There is a lot of nerd sexism.
She doesn't look like an older Leia.
Being realistic isn't sexism.
I could connect Hamill and Ford with Luke and Han from the Original Trilogy.
But there is just no way I could connect Fisher to Leia. And I am not a 13 years old porn addict. I am just being realistic...
SilverWook said:
Is this not an ascot? ;)
Hahaha :D
I have never found Leia hot. I find her rather average looking. The only thing that saves her is the fact that she is pretty much the only woman in original trilogy (with exception of Mon Mothma who would probably look hotter if she was younger).
Tobar said:
imperialscum said:
I don't know why so many fans are having problem with Luke and Leia being siblings.
And the kiss in ESB really isn't any kind of romantic kiss. It is basically just an angry reaction from Leia to shut up Han.
1. It wasn't planned. It was a band-aid after Lucas decided he was going to quit after ROTJ.
2. Luke has had a thing for Leia since SW77. Even going so far as to play on her sympathies to get more smooches on at least two occasions. =P
1. So what if it wasn't planned... it is still okay.
2. Luke had nothing. There is just no indication that Luke was after her in SW. If anything, one could say she was hitting on him and his reactions were rather cold and clumsy.
I don't know why so many fans are having problem with Luke and Leia being siblings.
And the kiss in ESB really isn't any kind of romantic kiss. It is basically just an angry reaction from Leia to shut up Han.
Tobar said:
imperialscum said:
It is actually quite amazing that the film even turned out as good as it is. I can't imagine actors having to act in the very "inspiring" empty room.
People always say that and yet some have been getting along just fine for centuries....
Theatre acting (at least to me) is very different than that in the film. I don't know how to put it... well in film the aim of the acting is to make it look like they are not acting while in theatre they do it in a way that it is extremely obvious that they are acting.
It is actually quite amazing that the film even turned out as good as it is. I can't imagine actors having to act in the very "inspiring" empty room.
To me the best option would be no dialogue at all. It would fit the circumstances and his disappointment with the event the best.
I want Sequel Trilogy to stay away from just about everything OT-related. That will eliminate the chances to screw things up a la midi-chlorians.
I like John William's score.
Well no matter how you spin it, JEJ voice acting is incomparably more important to Vader's portrayal than Prowse's physical acting. You could easily replace Prowse with some other random guy while JEJ was irreplaceable.
skyjedi2005 said:
imperialscum said:
I think 1997 ending was perfect.
I just can't describe the disappointment I felt when I first saw that Shaw was replaced by Hayden. It is hands down, by far the worst change Lucas ever made. Hell, I would go as far to say that it is the worst thing Lucas did in his entire career.
Worse than The Star Wars Holiday special?
Worse than Jar Jar Binks or Howard the Duck. Worse than Indiana Jones riding through the air for 5 miles in a nuked fridge. Worse than Hayden Christensen's atrocious bad acting as Skywalker/Vader?
Yes. At least I don't care for those things.
I actually prefer "Alert my star destroyer" to "Bring my shuttle!".
The reason behind this is very simple. Throughout entire trilogy Vader acts very calm and smart. He rarely loses temper (pretty much the only example is "Tear the ship apart!" in ANH). He is chocking officers while calmly making witty and sarcastic remarks (despite them failing him and giving him the reason for anger he appeared like nothing can get to him). That is what makes a villain badass and cool. Anger (losing temper) makes one look lame and unintelligent. The villain is much better if he appears to have everything under control and especially if he is emotionally indestructible (which "Alert my star destroyer" indiactes).
Also "Bring my shuttle!" doesn't fit with him not choking Piett. "Bring my shuttle!" indicates that the confrontation with Luke enraged him. But the scene with Piett suggest a complete opposite. It shows that Vader was rather disappointed by the event to the point that he doesn't even care about Piett's failure and he simply just silently walks away.
I think 1997 ending was perfect.
I just can't describe the disappointment I felt when I first saw that Shaw was replaced by Hayden. It is hands down, by far the worst change Lucas ever made. Hell, I would go as far to say that it is the worst thing Lucas did in his entire career.
Bingowings said:
The Force Ghost thing was a particular niggle because it's made clear in ANH Vader hasn't a clue what is going on.
It isn't explained in the rest of the OT and isn't explained in the PT other than the annoying story patch injected at the end of ROTS which still doesn't explain how Anakin managed to do it.
Well since Anakin managed to turn from the dark side (Yoda pretty much established in ESB that turning back to light is an impossible feat) I assumed that he could then easily do other incredible stuff too. The fact that he came back to the light side itself could simply grant him the force ghost ability.
Bingowings said:
Proving he had a degree of control over the film above and beyond just being part of a team.
Well obviously he had a major creative control over the entire film. I was just trying to say that he wasn't some control freak as it was suggested.
Bingowings said:
I think this is what is being referenced.
That came from the very "objective" Secret History of Star Wars and to my knowledge it doesn't provide any source nor does it specifically name people from the cast/crew who "claimed" that.
Still even if the film was being edited by Lucas during the shooting, that doesn't change the fact that in the end he and Hirsch edited it (again).
1990osu said:
imperialscum said:
He just wasn't on set all the time. Otherwise he was just as involved in creative process as he was in other two films.
Right. Lucas was pretty involved with "Empire"- involved enough that he wrote "Empire Strikes Back" draft 2 and 3 (which includes most of our favorite scenes), hired both Leigh Brackett for Draft 1 and Lawrence Kasdan for Draft 4.
He was on the phone with Irvin Kershner during shooting and showed up every once in awhile. In fact both him and Kershner had identical flip books with the entire movie's storyboards so that they could discuss things more easily on the phone.
He was also involved enough to completely edit "Empire" himself- the problem was that it sucked (if I recall correctly)
Well he did wrote the actual initial draft which (according to Kasdan) had pretty much all scenes in place as they are in the film now. Of course Kasdan improved the dialogue dramatically.
They had a book of storyboards and conceptual art and most of it came from McQuarrie, Johnston and Rodis-Jamero who all worked directly with Lucas and his ideas.
He was visiting sets only a few times until after 3 months when the production went over-schedule. Then he was on the set daily. But that is really irrelevant since he wasn't the one directing actors.
He did not edit it himself. He and Hirsch worked side-by-side and his wife helped them.
generalfrevious said:
I mean with ESB he was almost not involved at all, and that made less than $300 million. To him the less money a film makes, the worse it is.
He just wasn't on set all the time. Otherwise he was just as involved in creative process as he was in other two films.
CO said:
The 64,000 dollar question, will Lucas be able to stay away from SW when they shooting Episode 7?
Well if one is around when the film is being shot he can only influence the execution details. Creatively most important part is actually pre-production where the main ideas are formed, casting is done, visual concepts are made and script is written.
I highly doubt he resisted the temptation to completely stay away from the pre-production.
Bingowings said:
The only thing that lifts it above the PT are the performances of Mark Hamill and Ian McDiarmid.
Almost everything else is tatty, recycled or tired and by the numbers.
I respect your opinion but I sure can't agree with it.
I never liked this orbital shot of Yavin 4:
I don't know, it is just somehow visually poor and unimpressive and it doesn't provide me with the adequate feel. Even the stars are not visible (as they should be in my opinion). I think it would improve dramatically if they added a thin layer of atmosphere at the edge of the planet and increase the intensity of stars in the background.
For comparison, here are other orbital shots from OT that are very impressive and provide a magical feel:
