bttfbrasilfan said:
So, how is this project going?
1) What HD sources do we have to start working? (Preview Screenchots, please?)
2) Do we already have lossless LD audio rips?I would like to thank everyone who is supporting this project. Thank you!
1) We are waiting for the awesome Canal+ HDTV rip
2) We have the French and English lossless audio rips
Have you tried Google Drive? It works pretty well.
What the hell... a yellow Lucasfilm logo now? Damn, i didn't know the 80's were that funky in Europe :)
Anyway, here's the same pic as yours but now showing the title cards from the French Gold LDs editions:
Glad to hear that you are still working on this ;)
Thanks!
Laserschwert said:
Well, the international crawls were made by ILM (and presumably the title cards as well, hence the same fonts), and the German crawl for Empire (which is definitely the 35mm version, as I have it in HD) has a typo as well. I doubt anybody created new optically composed crawls for any of the home video releases. Thus I'm sure the French crawl is the theatrical one.
Interesting. Does the German intro of ROTJ use the same logos/title cards as SW and ESB?
The French intro of ROTJ has completely different logos, i don't know why but they are actually better and do match the English logos.
Here is the intro from the Gold Laserdisc: https://vimeo.com/63337982
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atomic66 said:
I think you should keep the typo to reflect the original theatrical release.
Same in end credits, as Skywalker appears as "Courleciel".
My 2 cents...
We still don't know if it is the theatrical intro or if they made another intro for the video release.
It's quite strange that all the European releases on VHS and LDs use the same font for the Lucasfilm logo and the "A long time ago..." Also, the SW logo freezes the same way in every European version too.
I'm pretty sure the 35mm intro is not the same as this one.
AntcuFaalb said:
ilovewaterslides said:
This master is a shame indeed, the TVrip is much brighter than the LD...... and the colors are more natural too...
I find many LDs to be darkish and under-saturated.
Is it possible that companies were trying to compensate for the average overly-bright red-shifted CRTs of the time?
That's a possibility. Some of my LDs look the same indeed. But for SW, it's much darker, i mean on the crawl at the beginning there is litteraly no star it's pretty lame...
chyron8472 said:
you should make the cassette label look something like this:
Alright, thanks for the picture! I've made something who looks like this more or less.
For the cover, i'm using THIS ONE
(but translated in French) if you know a better one, let me know ;)
SORRY FOR THE OFF-TOPIC GUYS.
yoda-sama said:
ilovewaterslides said:
Teeceezy said:
All jokes aside, I do have a VCR and it would be fun to transfer to VHS and see what it looks like on the old format. Although I'm not sure whether letterbox or fullscan would be better.
Believe it or not, i am actually making this right now!
I converted the movie to PAL 25fps with a 4% speed up. French audio/French crawl. But it's still quite interesting. I've created a DVD and i'm capturing it on a VHS. I will upload a sample here as soon as possible ;)
Edit: I'm using the V2.0 and i'm doing it in letterbox.
It would be funny if you could convince someone that your tape was dubbed straight from a pre-SE official widescreen VHS release. (And to further the joke, starting at the beginning of the credits see if you can explain and get them to believe the true source of the video before the custom credits at the very end come up.)
And be kind, rewind.
I thought about it indeed ;) There are no custom credits on this VHS, i've ended up the recording after the official credits and all you can see after this is black. I wanted to do it the most official as possible ^^
I also wrote "CBS FOX 1982" on the sticker that goes on the top of the tape. It looks quite realistic to me.
Teeceezy said:
All jokes aside, I do have a VCR and it would be fun to transfer to VHS and see what it looks like on the old format. Although I'm not sure whether letterbox or fullscan would be better.
Believe it or not, i am actually making this right now!
I converted the movie to PAL 25fps with a 4% speed up. French audio/French crawl. But it's still quite interesting. I've created a DVD and i'm capturing it on a VHS. I will upload a sample here as soon as possible ;)
Edit: I'm using the V2.0 and i'm doing it in letterbox.
marvins said:
Yesterday, I checked the french audio of the OUT vs GOUT. The OUT audiotrack has absolutely no dynamic and the voices are too low.
I don't know if thats come from how you capture the audio or if thats so in the THX pressing, but there is someting wrong with this soundtrack. I will check my THX LD in order to see if the sound is better. But I don't will have time to do this tonight.
It doesn't have anything to do with his capture, i have the same problem on my LDs. It's due to the pressing or the master i'm not sure but the THX audio truely sucks.
@Andrea: You should use the Pyramid audio for your OUT_rules preservation, it sounds way better than the THX audio. Like marvins said, the voices are too low compared to the other sounds plus it seems that they used an auto gain compressor which destroys the dynamic of the mix.
The master used for the Gold Edition and the Pyramid Edition is the same.
The only difference is that the Pyramid has a better pressing (less video noise and drops.)
This master is a shame indeed, the TVrip is much brighter than the LD...... and the colors are more natural too...
The only advantage on the Gold and Pyramid Edition is the audio which is better than the THX audio.
Alright, here it is: https://vimeo.com/62609449
Password: ot.com
Laserschwert said:
Do you have a reference for size and placement of the Lucasfilm logo and "A long time ago"?
I'm currently uploading the crawl from another TVrip, maybe it could help you, this one is much brighter than the official Laserdisc and VHS editions.
I've slowed it down to 23,976 fps and synchronized it with your version as well. Plus it was letterboxed in 4:3 so i zoomed te whole thing to get the original 2.35:1 aspect ratio but unfortunately this master seems to be slightly cropped because some black bars are still there on the left and right sides.
Anyway, that should help you as a reference for the logos placement.
What!? You took the liberty to re-create the French intro? I can't stand this kind of behavior. You should be banned immediately!
;)
Sir, i have to tell you that it's an amazing job you did there.
It looks like the intro of the Laserdiscs, VHS and TV versions. I'm still not sure about the theatrical version tho...
The "Il y a bien longtemps..." is way bigger than the English "A long time ago..." It seems that it was created for the video release because the original text was maybe too small to fit the 4:3 TVs back in the days.
What the...
You made a mistake, about what?
So, any news about a good non-DNR HDTV version of the trilogy?
Maybe Universal will give us a good transfer in 2015 for the 30th Anniversary...
dvdmike said:
I am looking at uploading, it may have to be usenet as the ssl protection and my familiarity with it make it ideal for me.
Awesome! Thanks a lot.
dvdmike said:
I had no idea, is it still the best source then?If someone who can upload 14gb wants to send me a BD-R I can put the MKV on it our just copy my BD-25 with extras and commentaries.
Yes, it's the best source available without DNR and awful color corrections...
Can't you upload the 14GB file in multi parts on a sharing website?
I would be glad to send you a BD-R but sadly i don't have one of these... actually i don't even have a BD player on my computer.
dvdmike said:
How weird is that, I was just about to burn the 14gb unmolested Canal Plus transfer with commentaries and making ofs to a BD-R, when i thought I would check the site out!
Is this hard to find now?
Yes, It's almost impossible to find now, unfortunately....
Almost everybody on this topic is looking for this version.
Here is the end of the first French LD edition (English audio this time.)
Password: OriginalTrilogy
drngr said:
No it isn't.
Haha. Maybe you can give us a link for a small .mov file so everybody that is interested could try to play it or even try to convert it.
It may be useful to determinate if it's the file itself who won't play or if you just need to install a codec.
drngr said:
Any interest in this still?
BTTF is DNR-free on Shaw on Demand and I can record it over HDMI, but I'm not sure if it will be better or worse than the H264 Russian capture. This is just MPEG-2 source.
So, did you have the chance to capture it recently?
I'm pretty sure that these Japanese subtitles are not hard-coded.
If they are we'll have to find the "Canal+ Film HD" version.
Speaking of which, i found more screenshots from this HDTV cap: http://www.sendspace.com/file/3rndcx
The Jonno's audio track does not fit the HDTV version, i had to make some cuts in lots of scenes. The film is not frame by frame the same.
I bet this HDTV version is sourced from the 2002 master because in the first Delorean scene, you can clearly see that the wheels on the Marty's skateboard and the fence in the background are pink instead of yellow.
Another interesting fact, this version is presented in 1.78:1 ratio instead of 1.85:1 so there's a little bit more of picture on the top and bottom.
@Jonno: It's just the first few seconds of black that are missing.
