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#1323538
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Here’s an idea for the throne room scene in the climax of TROS.

Ben makes his way down to the sith temple and eventually fights his way to the throne room and joins with Rey in a face off with Palpatine in what looked like a setup for an epic final duel, unfortunately Ben proceeds to get yeeted down in an anti-climactic, dare I say comedic fashion.

What if we integrated the fight against the praetorian guards from TLJ here, with Palpatine observing from The throne. The battle could potentially end the same way as TROS or you can go another route, alternativley most of the Throne room scene from TLJ could be integrated, have Kylo bring Rey to palps like the original TROS script where at the beginning palpatine promises Kylo that he will rule with Rey as emperor and empress, have palpatine in awe of the power of the dyad standing before him and declare that it was all a trap (“you’re coming together will be your undoing, this will be the final word in the story of skywalker”) and then have both Rey and Kylo Ignite their sabers against the praetorian guards and the battle begins.

Although it is ambitious I think it is doable with some VFX, colour correction and rotoscope, with some added wizardry.

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#1323445
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Star Wars Episode IX (was) to be directed by Colin Trevorrow - DUEL OF THE FATES RIP
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DominicCobb said:

idir_hh said:

DominicCobb said:

pleasehello said:

idir_hh said:

Art is subjective. You might think some of this is stupid, I happen to think it’s a masterpiece.

The grass is always greener, but “masterpiece” seems a tad strong for a partial screenplay of a film that was never made.

Yeah I don’t get how you can call 5 pages of a first draft script of an unproduced script a “masterpiece.” That’s more than a little silly.

Robert meyer Burnett read out most of the script on his YouTube channel and based on that script I think we would have gotten a film worthy of the Star Wars name.
The world building, the drama, the lore, the classic comedy and the politics, it’s all in there for me.

Personally I’m waiting to get my hands on the script myself.

Maybe there’s a chance it gets adapted into a novel.

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#1323440
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Star Wars Episode IX (was) to be directed by Colin Trevorrow - DUEL OF THE FATES RIP
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DominicCobb said:

pleasehello said:

idir_hh said:

Art is subjective. You might think some of this is stupid, I happen to think it’s a masterpiece.

The grass is always greener, but “masterpiece” seems a tad strong for a partial screenplay of a film that was never made.

Yeah I don’t get how you can call 5 pages of a first draft script of an unproduced script a “masterpiece.” That’s more than a little silly.

Robert meyer Burnett read out most of the script on his YouTube channel and based on that script I think we would have gotten a film worthy of the Star Wars name.
The world building, the drama, the lore, the classic comedy and the politics, it’s all in there for me.

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#1323431
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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yotsuya said:

idir_hh said:

Not too different from destroying two Death Stars. When you have millions trying to kill billions, there isn’t much of a choice.

Different in the sense that finn and Janna had a connection with the storm troopers, heck they were their family, at least a little hesitation, instead they are having the time of their lives gunning down their former comrades.

Broom Kid said:

My problem isn’t with the characters so much as with the conceptualizing of their behavior and the situations they’re dropped in by the writers.

Yes this is what frustrates me the most, they put Finn in the most useless situations possible.

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#1323218
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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RogueLeader said:

New leaked concept images for The Duel of the Fates.

Knowing about Trevarrow’s film is like adding salt on the wound made by TROS. Visually it’s everything I wanted and more, that ending shot on the green planet is the perfect setting to end Rey’s arc considering where she came from.
Instead JJ puts her back on a desert planet (alone) in the most anticlimactic way possible.

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#1322910
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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Thanks for the reply. Glad to hear you’re planning on releasing two versions of the edit.

Would you suggest that the deleted Kylo scene would work better without the last few shots of the scene, or just the head turn? Because it might feel weird to go from his reminiscing to outside the Falcon with no buffer

For me it’s the head turn that’s a little unwarranted, scene could work with or without the last few shots but I prefer the former.

As for the day dream I definitely agree that it’s worth re-evaluating, perhaps you can add it to the version with the original ending.

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#1322865
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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After watching this a second time I’d like to give my overall thoughts and some input.

I think you are close to achieving your primary goal for this edit - bringing out the films subtext - and specifically for me, the undertones of Rey’s character, her loneliness, vulnerability and longing are very well demonstrated through the various dialogue cuts, reaction shots, sounds and visions.

NeverarGreat said:
Rey’s Daydream (version 5)

Man do I love this, its such a striking visual. I assume you cut this for fear of revealing her powers too early in the film, the feeling I got from it was that Rey was imagining far and different places perhaps as a past time, as the film progresses though it slowly unravels that there is something more to it as the same island pops up again and again.

  • Integrate Leia’s deleted scene with Kor Sella directly after Finn disembarks from the Falcon.

It felt a little odd cutting from Finn disembarking to leia and korr sela than back to Finn and Poe.
I think it would flow better if it played out with Finn disembarking - He finds Poe - their scene play out than cut to the deleted with leia and kora with finn and poe coming down to speak with her right after.

  • Preface interrogation with Rey fitfully dreaming of her recent vision of Luke and R2 as well as visions of the island and the interior of the Jedi tree.

Maybe simplifying to an establishing shot of achto with the jedi texts would suffice.

  • The second Snoke scene has Hux sent to prepare the weapon to destroy the Republic with no mention of a reconnaissance ship and no knowledge of the location of the Resistance, and ends with Snoke taunting Ben by calling him ‘Solo’.

I liked how Kylo’s heritage was not revealed in the first Snoke scene and I think throughout the course of the film his heritage reveals itself so for me the Solo taunt kinda takes away from that.

  • Leia’s ‘…again. Our system is the next target’ is replaced with Snap asking if Leia has had word from the Republic, to which she answers ‘No’.
    Generally I think the stakes need to be emphasised a more concerning the imminent attack on Republic.
  • Insert deleted scene of Kylo on the Falcon, altered to include new music and sound effects indicating his happy memories on the ship.

Could probably do better without the over-dramatic head turn, flows better without it.

  • New sequence on the bridge where Kylo offers the lightsaber to Han in one final test. Once Han touches the saber,
    Kylo can access his memories and hears both Leia’s faith in him and Han’s pessimism, and it is this which hardens Kylo’s resolve.

The voices could be lowered just a tad

  • Move Leia’s reaction to Han’s death to right after the explosive detonation.

This felt a little off for me, seeing leia’s reaction in the direct aftermath of her husbands death in resonated with me more.

  • Remove indications that the planet is collapsing around Rey and Kylo, including all shots showing the cliffhanger. The lines about Rey needing a teacher remain, however, augmented with the final instance of the sinister whispers and echoes of her many traumas. She uses this to tap into the Dark Side and overcome Kylo.

I think the many voices can be a little distracting and its a little hard to make out what they are saying, I think less is more would be the best option in this case .

  • After the shot of Chewie mourning for Han, there is an extended sequence of BB-8 returning to a comatose R2 in an effort to awaken him. Rey sees this attempt and the scene cuts to night at the base with R2 hooked up to a computer terminal which is helping search his backup data. As this happens, Rey has a dream/vision of waking up on Luke’s island and finding Luke himself. She holds out the lightsaber. R2 awakens and the map to Luke is revealed.

To be honest I’m really torn on this sequence. On one hand I feel like the original ending with Luke is the perfect payoff for this Isolated adventure yet on the other hand the dream Sequence is better in the context of the Last Jedi.
Would be great if you released two versions to satisfy both sentiments as I’m many would like to watch this back to back with all TLJ edits.