The Kylo Ren fan film has some great establishing shot footage of Kylo landing on star-killer base (similar colour scheme to Exogol) along with Stormtroopers.
Which one? There’s a lot of bad ones out there…
This one’s great :https://youtu.be/owrmLeX20CY
Could we imply that Exogol is somehow a kind of Star-Forge that has frozen over the ages into a planet? It would be a good explanation for why the destroyers suddenly emerge from the under the ice as well as expand some of the lore of the film. Perhaps the huge pyramid like structure has an important role in the film other than just being there for eye candy. Maybe it could written in the crawl that Kylo, after being tormented by voices from the beyond, heralding his doom, has for the past years taken on a galactic wide conquest for an ancient weapon of the Sith. Capable of conjuring battle ships, the quantity of which could invade a thousand worlds.
…in the theme of ideas:
Has anyone considered the viability of this?
Do away with ‘Mustafar’ (bear with me)…but keep the slaughter sequence?
Repurpose it.
Start the movie with Kylo dropping out of HS . Landing on EXAGOL!..
There’s your establishing sequence! Then repurpose the slaughter on Mustafar (via colour correction) to have Kylo killing the cultists in order to get to/into Palpatine’s lair? (Instead of it being to find the way finder)
Keep it all, but make two sequences across two planets, just one???
Brilliant idea! Some extreme color correction though.
EDIT: Gave it the old college try but too many things going against it pieced together this way… Ren is now very dirty when piloting the ship to Exegol for no apparent reason. Only his TIE flies to Exegol but there are stormtroopers suddenly with him fighting the cultists. The sun is out when fighting in the forest. Suddenly the forest is gone with no sun and he’s at Palpatine’s lair. Nothing matches up well.
The Kylo Ren fan film has some great establishing shot footage of Kylo landing on star-killer base (similar colour scheme to Exogol) along with Stormtroopers.
The Fortress Inquisitorius from the Fallen Order game would make for a cool base for Kylo Ren and his Knights, could even be where he rebuilds his helmet (it’s also on the planet next to Mustafar)
https://youtu.be/aYyqE3eVlV4?t=258
Is it possible to add a second shuttle (with Chewie inside) that start behind Finn and moved to the right of the screen? Little smaller than the first one. So we can see on second viewing, that is starting a second shuttle and nobody see it.
IIFanEditor’s edit of TROS did that.
Here’s the link to his clip:https://vimeo.com/400221468
PW: fanedit
Yeah it makes alot more sense to push Mustafar and palpy’s reveal to later. The pacing is so much better for it.
dgraham414 said:
Opening shot would be tie fighters going towards kylo’s ship just out in space (probably a reverse shot from TFA) with Kylo on the bridge staring into nothingness.Liked the idea so I made a quick test. It works really well with Poppa’s tie fighter’s flying above the forest, would be nice though to have a shot of Vader’s castle with the 3 fighters flying by to tie it all together.
https://vimeo.com/420388818The shot of the transports landing I thought looked usable, too. Maybe try putting that in as well?
I thought including the transports would kinda brake the flow of the Tie sequence . I initially wanted to reverse this shot (1:19) https://youtu.be/ngElkyQ6Rhs?t=79 and cut right to the transports landing, obviously Jakku would need to be changed to Mustafar.
dgraham414 said:
Opening shot would be tie fighters going towards kylo’s ship just out in space (probably a reverse shot from TFA) with Kylo on the bridge staring into nothingness.
Liked the idea so I made a quick test. It works really well with Poppa’s tie fighter’s flying above the forest, would be nice though to have a shot of Vader’s castle with the 3 fighters flying by to tie it all together.
https://vimeo.com/420388818
Oooh
If we make the message about a hidden fleet and have the fortnite broadcast it will be confirming what they just heard.
Not what I meant but, whatever… 😒
I think some of these ideas being thrown around are better suited to Idir’s ideas thread. Much of this discussion about bringing in the message in completly newly created scenes doesn’t seem like something Hal is planning on pursuing.
The line seperating an ideas thread and someone’s actual edit has become blurred. 😐
I was thinking the same.
A wish list for ‘what might have been’ is distinctly different from creatively working with what we actually have?
As someone with ZERO technical prowess, who am I to measure what the talented folk here can actually pull off, but hearing some of the suggestions for such monumental changes does make me question what some think can be achieved with the resources available?
I love the creative flair/imagination being demonstrated…but is it realistically attainable within the community?
Tbh with the talent in these threads, I’d say everything is realistically attainable.
ok, imagine we opened the movie with kylo looking for wayfinder in coruscant, instead of mustafar, and that vader left the wayfinder in the ruins of the jedi temple. poppasketti, a question, how difficult would it be to obtain a 3d model of a ship of the first order to appear in shot just like in ANH and ROTJ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHfLyMAHrQE
if this were possible, we could include the montage of idir_hh, with kylo looking through the ship with the scene removed from TLJ, the temple ruins, and then with rotoscopes and some VFX, kylo entering the temple and finding the wayfinder…We could probably find a model of a FO Destroyer, jonh. Rotoscoping Kylo onto the Coruscant surface though, that sounds tough! Bold idea!
Could use the footage of Kylo walking on the surface of Exogol for him walking towards the Jedi temple.
The info is not about Palps, it’s can be about rumors of a hidden Imperial fleet. Or whatever else. Do we ever really see any messages in Star Wars except for Leia’s original one? 😉
To me that scene has always felt like it has been there to establish Hux’s role in the film.
Opening with the secret message scene is very reminding of a James Bond opening where we see him on the end of a different mission
Maybe it could be the Fortnite message? Could play it at the Resistance meeting instead of Poe saying his “Somehow” line. Everyone can be shocked at the same time.
Anyways, I really like your mockup. During the vision sequence, I would take out Kylo’s helmet fondling and instead have the TLJ shot of him from behind on the Star Destroyer, and we don’t see his face. That way the true reveal of him for this movie is still on Mustafar.
Here’s a rough test I did a while a go for that. This version of the broadcast establishes that Palpatine orchestrated the events of the past 2 films so that the Republic would be destroyed and Luke would be out of the picture, leaving the seat of power empty for Palps to take, unopposed.
https://vimeo.com/404134108I’ve seen this before on Youtube! I’ve always thought that this was a great edit and really the only pluasible way to incorporate the Fortnite message
It’s very rough, I’m working on a 2.0 version which will incorporate better Coruscant footage. Yeah Igot the idea of using the 1313 footage from a video that used it on YouTube.
The info is not about Palps, it’s can be about rumors of a hidden Imperial fleet. Or whatever else. Do we ever really see any messages in Star Wars except for Leia’s original one? 😉
To me that scene has always felt like it has been there to establish Hux’s role in the film.
Opening with the secret message scene is very reminding of a James Bond opening where we see him on the end of a different mission
Maybe it could be the Fortnite message? Could play it at the Resistance meeting instead of Poe saying his “Somehow” line. Everyone can be shocked at the same time.
Anyways, I really like your mockup. During the vision sequence, I would take out Kylo’s helmet fondling and instead have the TLJ shot of him from behind on the Star Destroyer, and we don’t see his face. That way the true reveal of him for this movie is still on Mustafar.
Here’s a rough test I did a while a go for that. This version of the broadcast establishes that Palpatine orchestrated the events of the past 2 films so that the Republic would be destroyed and Luke would be out of the picture, leaving the seat of power empty for Palps to take, unopposed.
https://vimeo.com/404134108
If that’s what they’re going for than it’s a pretty pathetic attempt at reflecting the politics of this time.
Though I’ll stop here before dragging us into a political discussion.
-Insert Lukes death scene from TLJ (switch day to night fx)
I’m still figuring out how to export properly and my internet is being a total nightmare.
I’ve uploaded this…
Http://www.vimeo.com/419937146
Password: faneditLet me know what you think.
Wow great work on the dialogue, is their dialogue meant to be telepathic? looks very effective.
In this version is there a reason for why Luke has to go? In the last Jedi he dies from draining his force energy from the incredibly taxing feat on Crait, I just think him dying for no reason would kind of undercut his arc in TLJ so I’m also curious about his arc in your version of that film.
I agree with Nev. The fundamental issue that underlines this film is that the treasure is found before the heroes even go on the treasure hunt, effectively killing all mystery and tension in the film. The reveal of the fleet rising from beneath the surface should have been saved for later on in the film, as well as Kylo finding Palpatine. In my view there needs to be a restructure of the film where palpatine’s broadcast initiates a race to Exogol between The First Order and the Resistance, with Kylo getting there first.
Does Leia live in this edit? Otherwise I don’t think the flashback would work.
That’s a fabulous idea, very FX heavy though so that’s an obstacle.
I think it fits well, the camera movement is soo JJ.
In theory it might work but it’s all about how it translates on screen, music is essential to selling the idea. I do question the narrative purpose of Rey burying the sabers in the version though.
You could hide its deficiencies by playing with the lighting/colour correction.
You can have an establishing shot sequence that includes the outer shot of the Deathstar wreckage, the boat entering from below, wide shot of the inside of the wreckage, shot of the hallway with the storm trooper helmets, empty throne room shot - wide shot of Kylo standing in on the edge - enter Han Solo.
Flashbacks would be too overkill I think, at most I’d go for faint echoes from the throne room scene in ROTJ, “you already have, you where right about me…” etc.
I really like the Falcon/Broom boy combo at the end. Could it be implied that Kylo has taken a kind of pilgrimage to the ruins of the Deathstar, where his grandfather was redeemed? I think some slow wide shots of the ruins (could use some wide shots from the Rey climbing sequence) would help fix the abruptness and better establish the setting.
Would be cool to incorporate the Ties flying by Vader’s castle, that way we would be following a continuous thread.
That would be great. If you like you could post a rough cut in a Google drive, I’m sure the folks here would love to give you some feedback!