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#1332052
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Yeah but Iger could have easily vetoed that, he clearly doesn’t have the chops to write deep and complex stories like star wars. Rian would have certainly gone in a completely different direction if given all 3 films, pity.
What’s done is done I guess, let the past die an all that.

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#1331750
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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RogueLeader said:

I wonder if we could have the dyad concept introduced in The Force Awakens. Maybe when Kylo and Snoke first speak via hologram, it could go something like this.

Snoke: There has been an awakening. Have you felt it?

Kylo Ren: The dark side…

Snoke: -And the light.

Kylo Ren: A dyad in the Force…

Oh I like that.

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#1331448
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Episode IX: A New Order
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You’re right, the Palpatine and Ochi angle is a hard nut to crack, here’s what I propose:
Cut any connection between ochi and her parents, imply that his ship triggers her memories because its a similar model to the ship that Rey’s parents were on (the TFA vision looks slightly different anyway to the TROS model) From the start of the film she is tormented by visions of the Sith throne, flashbacks on Passana could be used in a way that only hints at Rey killing her parents, leaving the full reveal till Kijimmi, later in Kylo’s quarters you can change the dialogue to him saying"I pushed you in the desert because I needed to see it, I needed you to see it, What you did… Rey’s reactions to Kylo’s dialogue works perfectly as a reaction to the reveal, cut all the stuff about ochi killing her parents. As if that wasn’t enough, Kylo tells Rey that Palpatine has been waiting for them all this time, that he sensed their darkness since they were children, and declares that she is indeed a palpatine, that Kylo and Rey are a Dyad and that they will inherit the dark throne. (for this to work, Palpatine’s plan from the start should be to bring Rey, not kill her, so instead of “kill the girl” his dialogue to Kylo would change to “find the girl” “you will rule the Galaxy as Emperor and empress”)

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#1331426
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Episode IX: A New Order
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Lesser said:

IlFanEditore said:

The “Rey killing her parents” will never be perfect, unless someone makes totally new shots.
Here’s my test. I’m not satisfied, but I hope it can be useful as a concept for others.

I’ll keep working on this.
The problem is: is it that clear the Occhi’s ship is the same one Rey blew up? How can this inconsistency be fixed?

https://vimeo.com/400251919
pw: fanedit

The white vignette around the flashbacks are a little distracting. If you still wanted to use this idea maybe make it more similar to the flashes she has after stabbing the training ball, where it’s mostly unaltered shots with more audio-heavy editing. Perhaps even reuse the reverb effect of Luke saying “you killed them” from ESB, that way it’s used over the flashes of Kylo killing his father in addition to Rey killing her parents for more parallels.

That’s a neat idea. To address the issue of Rey having little reaction to this reveal throughout the film, I think there are sufficient hints sprinkled throughout the film that she knows more about herself than she reveals, for example " there’s so much I want to tell you " - to Leia, “that power came from me…Finn there are things you don’t know” later on after the she escapes Kijimmi she says " he killed my mother…and my father" This could easily be changed to “I killed my mother and father”, bare in mind that I think this plot point would be more effective if we scrap the whole “your parents sold you to protect you”, they should remain scumbags to at least give her a reason for her action, it’s also a nice parallel with Kylo’s childhood where his parents kinda abandoned him as well.