For some reason JJ succumbed to the use of boring exposition in this film.
Having the resistance listen to a leaked discussion between Palpy and Proyed is, in my humble opinion, a very effective demonstration of “show, don’t tell”
Palpatine Message V2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI4vmoK8VvA&feature=youtu.be
-Removed Roses frequency line
-added backround resistance sounds
-Removed Poe’s bandage
While it’s a nice mockup, I don’t think it solves the main issue with the scene, namely, “somehow papa-memes returned”. After all, the reason why the Fortnite thing is even being considered is to finesse around that whole ordeal.
I don’t think it’s necessary to show them “decoding” the message since it doesn’t really add anything to the next scene, on the contrary it kinda drags it out unnecessarily. I think the original idea just flows better from an editing perspective, what’s the message? Answer: You hear the message. It just feels more dramatic to hear Palpatine’s leaked discussion along with the rest of the resistance for the first time.
Hal 9000 said:
I like it! The clip we have to work with has a hologram or radio filter on it, so that may make it less than ideal to modify.
In that clip, after Palpatine says “the work of generation is complete” there’s a few seconds with just the hologram filter and no dialogue. This could be looped over whatever modification you want to make 😉
Edit: Here’s the source for the sound affect used:
https://youtu.be/LT_ziSQnwEo
That’s such a good idea. It demonstrates to the audience that Boolio was executed as a consequence of leaking Palpatine’s discussion with the first Order. Alerting the resistance to his existence and risking the secrecy of The Final Order operation. This gets rid of a huge problem in TROS, that Palpatine announced his plans to the entire galaxy before even executing them. As if he announced that Order 66 was going to happen prior to all the pieces being in place.
It also shows that the high command are perhaps trying to hide their allgience to Palpatine because they shut off the transmission just as Kylo arrives.
If someone wants to give it a shot, here’s how to create the new dialogue
“Send the fleet to the galaxy, let it burn”
-“Send”
*Palpatine and Pryde: “Send a ship to a world they know”
-“The”
*Palpatine and Pryde - “The Princess of Alderaan has disrupted…”
-“fleet”
*Palpatine in Kylo’s head - “do not make me turn my fleet against you”
-“to”
*Palps and Pryde - “Send a ship to a world they know”
-“the galaxy”
*Kylo and palpatine - “you will rule all the galaxy”
And if some wants to replicate the new dialogue from my mockup here’s how:
I’m out of the editing game for a while cuz of ma computer but if anyone is interested here’s how I made Palpatine’s new lines.
Skywalker is dead!
The Republic, Destroyed“Skywalker” - Return of the Jedi - The Emperor’s arrival. “You have done well lord Vader, and now I sense you wish to continue your search for young Skywalker”
“Is” - Rise of skywalker - Rey and Palpatine. “Luke Skywalker was saved by his father, the only family you have here is me”
“Dead” - Rise of Skywalker - Sith Sacrifice. “And with a stroke of her saber, the Sith are reborn. The Jedi are dead!”.
“The Republic” - Revenge of the Sith - Palpatine creates the Empire.“In order to insure the security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganised in to the first galactic empire”.
“, Destroyed” - Return of the Jedi - Palpatine zapping Luke with lightning. “If you will not be turned, then you will be destroyed” .
😉
Adding Palpatine’s theme over the dialogue would help cover any audio issues or original unwanted background music that may arise.
Unfortunately not. Il have to redo everything once I get an upgrade.
Here’s the broadcast with no music (with SFX)
https://youtu.be/Fmu08wCZJr0
Oh I agree. Personally I’m leaning more towards IIFaneditor’s concept, except I would change the dialogue so that it goes like this.
“what’s the message?”
-holographic/transmission sound-
“At last the work of generations is complete, the day of victory is at hand, the day of the sith.
Send the fleet to the galaxy…let it burn.
The Final order begins”
“Yes my lord”
All that transpired regarding the rise and fall of the repulic is addressed as the work of generations. Same reaction shots, more context to the story. Spy plot is teased. Best of ALL, no half arsed introduction from Poe.
A few birds with one stone, if you ask me.
Does anyone have an edit of Palpatine’s speech added in? I think I’d vastly prefer that against just them talking about it 😕
IIFaneditor’s version: https://vimeo.com/399876146
Password: fanedit
My version: https://vimeo.com/404134108
The leaked message being Palpatine’s orders to Pryde mixed with some dialogue from fortnight acts as a compelling alternative to “what’s the message?.. Somehow… pAlPAtiNe ReTUrnEd”. It also acts as a miss direction for the audiance, making them suspect Pryde as the Spy, when it’s actually Hux.
I just hated that goddamm Palpatine reveal at the resistance base. Having them react to Palpatine’s voice instead is just so much more impactful. In my opinion.
For the saber toss, I remember there was a much more dramatic take of that from the documentary. It seamed to really fit with the TFA ending. The issue was the string holding the saber being visible, and that Luke’s hand was pre-CG.
That would have been great to see, showing that Obi Wan knew all this time that Anakin was with Padme would have further enriched their character dynamic.
Edit: here’s the dialogue from the novelisation.
https://youtu.be/H4_ptlf8CbQ
Yeah it’s the one before Anakin’s fall. Seams like there’s a lot that we haven’t seen from the prequels, deleted scene wise.
I saw a snippet in the doco of a deleted scene between Obi and Padme talking at her apartment before Anakin arrived. Does it exist somewhere and do we know what they talked about?
Was there a deleted scene between Obi and Padme talking at her apartment before Anakin arrived. Does it exist somewhere and do we know what they talked about?
No. That could potentially endanger the survival of this site. The last thing we need is to bring more attention to ourselves. I think people should find their way here instead of vice-versa. Its a niche corner of the galaxy, I’m sure most of us would like it to stay that way.
Yeah Lando was a highlight. I wonder if they’ll do something post ROTJ with him.
I’m surprised there’s not much noise about the lack of deleted scenes outside the fan-edit community.
He’s actually a professional film director in Spain. Probably got a lot on his plate.
“Comme home” is being done by DominiCobb. You would need a “you” to replace “There’s still light in him” I would suggest using “Me, you” from Leia’s discussion with Han in TFA.
For Leia’s death I think it would nice to extend her dialogue using lines from TFA: “there’s still light in him, I know it” could be used make “Ben, come home, there’s still light in you, I know it”
This guy on youtube did something similar.
https://youtu.be/QiAFwBV--Gg
The shot of the medal could be played with, rotation, messing with the angle should make it fit.
Would be cool to do something in the style of Solo’s crawl. "It is a lawless time…