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While we are on that scene, I think the way it was originally edited makes the leia contact very confusing to the point that it lowers the dramatic impact of the scene, I would change it so that Kylo gets distracted by her death instead of the call itself, I would also extend the moment Rey and kylo have by having Rey confessing her true feelings about taking “Ben’s” hand before the healing sequence which for me makes it all the more “romantic”? maybe compassionate, it also gives their moment a little more time to breathe.

Original order of scenes:

• kylo stops mid strike.
• leia calls out “Ben”.
• Kylo turns back in shock.
• Leia lies down while she holds the medal.
• Kylo drops his lightsaber, Rey catches it mid air and stabs him with it.
• Leia’s hand drops signalling her death.
• Rey feels her death through the force, calls out leia’s name in shock.
• Rey removes the saber from Kylo’s stomach, cries in disbelief
• Pan to R2D2 with Leia.
• Rey and kylo have a moment of sadness
• Rey reaches out to heal kylo’s wound.
• Healing sequence
• Rey “I did want to take your hand, Ben’s hand”.
• Kylo gives her a look of compassion and gratitude.
• Rey runs off to the Tie fighter.

Re-edited version

• kylo stops mid strike.
• leia calls out “Ben”
• We see her holding Hans’s medal from the trailer.
• Leia lies down while she holds the medal.
• leia’s hand drops dead
• Kylo looks back in shock.
• Kylo drops his lightsaber, Rey catches it mid air and stabs him with it.
• Rey feels her death through the force, calls out leia’s name.
• Rey removes the saber from Kylo’s stomach, cries in disbelief
• Rey and kylo have a moment of sadness. Cut R2 for better flow.
• Rey “I did want to take your hand, Ben’s hand”.
• Rey reaches out to heal kylo’s wound.
• Healing sequence
• Kylo gives her a look of compassion and gratitude.
• Rey runs off to the Tie-fighter.

darkshadowspike said:

While John Williams has been a consistent architect of music for these films I think that some of these sequences would be better served with no music, just the fight and the sounds of the world around them. Sometimes less is more.

The death star battle is the last big duel of the trilogy and saga, i don’t think that is ok for it to not have soundtrack or to have a score less memorable than duel of fate

Other thing that bugs me, and would like to know if is possible to fix in the edit.

In TFA when the option to sell BB-8 becomes available, she looks sad and refuses to sell the droid because she KNOWS that she was sold. Her parents, selling her to a slaver because they “loved her and wanted to protect her” sounds bad and not only is pretty cliche, it also feels jarring with the ending of the movie.

So Rey decides to take the skywalker name and act like the skywalkers are her family forgetting about the parents that she just discovered actually “loved” her and sacrifice their life for.

Rey palpatine’s would feel less jarring with the previous films if her parents were actually selfish and actually sold her from drinking money.

Having a truly dysfunctional family, would make “Rey Skywalker” and the message of deciding one’s path and family, more meaningful and would keep the weight of the revelation in TLJ for the most part intact.

The message of “bloodline doesn’t define you” doesn’t have any weight when her dad was the direct son of sheev and was a “decent” and “good” person.

This 100%. The fact that Rey’s parents already chose to forsake their dark heritage undermines Rey’s arc BIG TIME.

OutboundFlight said:
In TROS, Leia transfers her life-force into Ben, which allows Rey to heal a fatal wound in Ben without her dying.

If that was indeed their intention they did a pretty terrible job of conveying it.

Has anyone asked the question of why they fight in the first place? What were Rey’s motivations to attack Kylo and subsequently stab him to death? I felt nothing during this whole sequence, it felt so contrived it was as if they where trying fill a mandate (“gotta have a big lightsaber battle!”)

I’m sure Williams recorded something for that sequence but it’s probably sitting somewhere in the cutting room.

Unless they go all out in a BTS documentary walking through all changes through production but I doubt that will ever happen with the squeaky clean image Disney is “trying” to portray.

They did a pretty good job with the footage(bootleg) they had, just need to slow down the leia Ben Resurrection scene and somehow rotoscope Ben into a tattooine background, remove the helmet and recolour his costume and you are good to go.

Rumour has it that the story integrates parts of the cancelled KOTOR 3 where Revan goes out to the unknown regions searching for the "True Sith ". Apparently in the film will be about jedi searching for “Sith God’s” in the unknown regions.

I think the wise thing for Disney to do would be to follow in DC’s by releasing an extended cut like BvS which by the way fixed the film for a lot of people.

I think the Oracle could have been inspired by the “Tor Valum” character in CT’s script.

Collection of leaked concept art from the art of TROS.

https://m.imgur.com/a/qjEWhkR

A plethora of concept art from the rise of skywalker including Kylo Ren and chewbacca and the jedi temple on coruscant:

https://m.imgur.com/a/qjEWhkR

They wanted a Hollywood reboot, hence JJ Abrams.

Just checked again and you are right, it’s pretty confusing, George approved KOTOR being made even though it contradicts his head Canon.

“for over a thousand generations the jedi knights were the guardians of piece and justice in the old Republic.”
It does seem to imply that the Republic lived that long but according to Canon and EU that is not the case.

Jackpumpkinhead said:

So I know you may have moved on from this, but I would like to revisit the cave shot.

IMHO I would say it would be better for the silhouette of her parents to merge into Palpatine and hold in front of her until the fog lifts to reveal Rey just standing there. So kind of a mix of the first and Second version.

Great work on everything else.

I like this.

poppasketti said:

I just updated the subtle version of the Snoke eyes (same link) to make it an even faster flash of red.

Its a bit too quick for me, I would prefer if the strong red lingered a bit before cutting straight to blue without the in-between transition .

Maybe it’s mentioned by Hux and Pryde in the deleted opening scene.

For what its worth, the story behind Mustafar’s transformation is told in the Vader Immortal VR series.

https://i.imgur.com/xIXynPd.jpg
This could be a direct screenshot from the deleted oracle sequence with Vader’s castle looming in the distance. It was reported by MSW and Bespin-Bulletin that they shot extensively at a lake/swamp in Black Park.

Leaked images from the art of the rise of skywalker:
https://twitter.com/JadoreReyBen/status/1217696999350267905?s=20

Well it explains her training Rey at least.

That line could be changed to leia sensing the birth of her son instead of his death.

I remember this site getting early info on the cue list for TFA so they are credible. Also this was recorded for a longer edit of the film on November 11 which means a lot of the deleted scenes are in a finished condition.

Although I like the alternate version with Snoke looking up, it might go a little too under the radar.

For the subtle version to work for me I think the eyes should change back to blue right after the strong Sith colour for a more sudden impact.

I disagree, a story is like looking at a finished picture puzzle, the specifics are the pieces that make the puzzle, if you have two puzzles with different pieces but end up with the same picture the difference becomes irrelevant.