hydrospanner

I have a bad feeling about this.

If there is a flashback on Endor I hope they include Mount Sorrow.

DominicCobb said:

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

imperialscum said:

Delicieuxz, I agree. Endor has some amazing visuals.

Aren’t you the one who doesn’t think Skellig Michael has any place in a Star Wars film??

Yes, that is me. At least not in the state it was shot in TFA. It was ugly. At least they could wait for some better weather.

This is truly baffling.

What was wrong with the weather other than it being a little windy?

SpilkaBilka said:

hydrospanner said:

It was great that the only version I had seen of it for the first few years was a VHS recorded off of a TV broadcast that omitted the droid torture scene and the scene where threepio explains the entire trilogy complete with sound effects to the ewok village. When I finally saw the official version a few years later I didn’t understand why those scenes were necessary and have since come to see them as some of the worst scenes in the entire OT, so whoever edited down for time for TV made some good decisions.

Same here! I had a copy that was taped off TV, had to FFW through the commercials and everything. Both those scenes were edited out, as were some others, such as when that guy consoles the Rancor-keeper after the Rancor dies.

That droid torture scene… bleh.

Yes I remember the rancor trainer crying wasn’t in the one I had taped either. Its like the guys editing it for time did their own fan edit of it and emoved a lot of the worst scenes. I remember part of the scene when Leia meets Wicket was also cut, I don’t think they showed the stormtroopers or how Leia dropped her helmet…it just cut after Wicket hears something and cut to commercial I believe so the scene when they find her helmet didn’t make much sense to me. Crazy I can remember all this from a VHS I haven’t watched in over 20 years.

I love ROTJ. It was great that the only version I had seen of it for the first few years was a VHS recorded off of a TV broadcast that omitted the droid torture scene and the scene where threepio explains the entire trilogy complete with sound effects to the ewok village. When I finally saw the official version a few years later I didn’t understand why those scenes were necessary and have since come to see them as some of the worst scenes in the entire OT, so whoever edited down for time for TV made some good decisions.

Why bother with ghost Han when they can just use clone Han? Haan and Haaan to the rescue!

You don’t look at the mantle when you’re poking the fire.

TV’s Frink said:

I didn’t like how the MF went to lightspeed inside the freighter. Now there’s something inconsistent with the internal logic of the SW universe, and it could have easily been avoided as well.

I thought so too, what was the reasoning for them not just taking off first?

I still think Snoke is Boba Fett. I hope episode VIII after the title crawl and pan starts with a flashback showing a hand reaching out of the sand (similar to when the Shreder’s hand reaches out of the garbage dump pile in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: Secret of the Ooze) and a shadowy unidentifiable figure starts to climb out. Then the camera pans and we see it is Boba Fett in his armor and he swears revenge on Han Solo and Luke Skywalker. He then takes his helmet off and he looks like Snoke because the Sarlacc messed his face up and the music cue from the I am your father scene plays. I don’t think it could get any better than that.

My favorite video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6uNvQich8g&feature=youtu.be&t=13s

He looks like every other protocol droid. I think Anakin built him from a kit.

What do the script and novel say?

But then we could get a spin off sitcom called Calrissian and Son.

Why did the stormtroopers kill the jawas and then make it look like the sand people did it?

I think he is Boba Fett.

Did anyone else not understand that Luke was a moisture farmer and thought his family just grew plants like normal farmers when they were a kid? I think Han Solo’s line about traveling through hyperspace not being like dusting crops may have had something to do with this.

I think that Tatooine was a lawless frontier type planet was kind of the point. It was supposed to be like the old west. Just look at the sand people and the jawas. They make their living off of banditry and thievery.

LuckyGungan2001 said:

Can somebody please explain why The Phantom Menace is better than the other two? I’m not even being sarcastic, I just want to hear your thoughts.

I think it did less to crap on the OT characters then the two after it which more or less ruined the characters of Darth Vader, Yoda, and Boba Fett.

TPM didn’t have as many continuity errors with the OT either. I didn’t like that Obi-Wan was under another Jedi’s tutelage besides Yoda and I didn’t like being introduced to Anakin as a child. Although he was at least consistent with the character of Anakin being a good guy and wasn’t what we got with Hayden. It has the whole chosen one prophecy and the midichlorian explanation of the force which is stupid but probably wouldn’t have been as big of a deal if the movie was better.

Jar Jar is annoying but had he been less shrill and not been used for bathroom humor he could have worked. At least we were spared bad romance dialouge unless you count are you an angel as 9 year old Anakin making a move on Padme. Also no flying R2-D2. Even though Maul has almost no lines at least he isn’t as silly as someone like Grevious and him being more a mysterious character that doesn’t say much kind of works.

It feels like it is a better made film overall with more real sets and practical effects. None of the soap opera like couch shots of the other two. At least it had a puppet Yoda in the original even though it looked pretty bad.

It has the best lightsaber fight of the PT. It doesn’t have the OT grit where it seems the lightsabers themselves are dificult to wield and the feeling that the characters are actually trying to hit each other, but at least it is not as ridiculous as Yoda bouncing around like a racquet ball or the Obi-Wan Vader duel over the lava.

All of the prequels are pretty much at the same level to me and honestly I’d probably watch ROTS over any of them if given a choice, but TPM is also probably the least offensive in my mind.

I like Star Wars.

It also makes sense that the test Ren has never faced before that Snoke spoke of was to go through with killing his father and rid himself of any possible feelings of sentiment to prove that he wouldn’t fail as they believed Vader had.

Lord Haseo said:

Good question and a possible reason is that perhaps after 5 or so years Force Ghosts must leave this plane and move onto into the afterlife or “the netherworld of The Force” as Yoda called it in ROTS

This makes sense too. You’d think they couldn’t just appear forever and the length of time and who they are able to manifest themselves too might have some limitations.

TV’s Frink said:

hydrospanner said:

I am also understanding that Ren views Darth Vader as the true personality of his grandfather and that reedeemed Anakin was just a corrupted version of him. So even if a force ghost talked to him he might dismiss it as not his true character or some sort of Jedi trickery.

I like this theory, but in order to be consistent I have to ask was there anything in the film that supports it?

There was a deleted scene supposedly that said this:

From http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2015/12/the-deleted-scenes-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens.html

Kylo Ren and Supreme Leader Snoke had a discussion about Darth Vader. Snoke says that he viewed Vader as an exemplary individual who let sentiment get the better of him, and Kylo agrees. The conversation also reveals that Snoke was old enough to have witnessed the Clone Wars in their entirety.

Also do we even know id the force ghosts could appear to anyone but Luke? It didn’t seem anyone else could see them at the end of Jedi.

I am also understanding that Ren views Darth Vader as the true personality of his grandfather and that reedeemed Anakin was just a corrupted version of him. So even if a force ghost talked to him he might dismiss it as not his true character or some sort of Jedi trickery.

I don’t think they ever filmed anything with a force ghost to be cut… I thought it was just something thrown around in the early concept art?